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Experiences with Dr. Peter Thaler (Berlin, GER) ?

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Hagane
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Posted on Sep 6, 2020, 8:04 pm
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Quote from: Siegfried on September 06, 2020, 07:59:57 PM  I'm in my mid twenties and in very good shape.


damn we pretty much are the same lol
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Hagane
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Posted on Sep 6, 2020, 8:05 pm
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i do want to point out
that while myevo id all four segments:
he did them 1 year apart 
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Posted on Sep 6, 2020, 8:35 pm
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Quote from: Siegfried on September 06, 2020, 07:16:04 PMThe plan is to tibias first and then eventually do femurs 3 weeks later. If its too much initial pain, I could still postpone the femur surgery.

Yea, im talking about the scenario where if you did them 3 weeks apart. That is the exact scenario I am referring to in my examples. Optimistic1 was a top candidate of this surgery too, his work ethic far exceeded any diary I've read. Yet he became depressed and almost wanted to give up the last month. He suffered, badly. You think your yoga and sports will minimize the suffering from quadrilaterals, not really man. Plenty of athletic people and flexible people struggle heavily doing just Femurs. Now imagine doing both segments simultaneously. No amount of soccer will change the fact that four bones are broken and your muscles are being pulled like a torture device and your nerves are being stretched like Zac and soft tissues are swollen and hurt and in big pain tremendous pain

As Paley said, people always think they are the exception and are different for some reason, muh work ethic, blah blah. But everyone struggles like a mf. Everyone. U are no exception -Dr. Paleo diet


I am warning you brother, please. And yeah My evo did them a year apart. Quadrilaterals at the same time will literally wreck you. Evo essentially did them after he recovered from the first. U are doing them together

Be humble bro, I am warning you that you will regret so much sooo much. Please man please I beg I beg ooga booga please man

Femurs then 7 month gap ok?
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Hagane
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Posted on Sep 6, 2020, 8:42 pm
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Quote from: ghkid2019 on September 06, 2020, 08:35:35 PMYea, im talking about the scenario where if you did them 3 weeks apart. That is the exact scenario I am referring to in my examples. Optimistic1 was a top candidate of this surgery too, his work ethic far exceeded any diary I've read. Yet he became depressed and almost wanted to give up the last month. He suffered, badly. You think your yoga and sports will minimize the suffering from quadrilaterals, not really man. Plenty of athletic people and flexible people struggle heavily doing just Femurs. Now imagine doing both segments simultaneously. No amount of soccer will change the fact that four bones are broken and your muscles are being pulled like a torture device and your nerves are being stretched like Zac and soft tissues are swollen and hurt and in big pain tremendous pain

As Paley said, people always think they are the exception and are different for some reason, muh work ethic, blah blah. But everyone struggles like a mf. Everyone. U are no exception -Dr. Paleo diet


I am warning you brother, please. And yeah My evo did them a year apart. Quadrilaterals at the same time will literally wreck you. Evo essentially did them after he recovered from the first. U are doing them together

Be humble bro, I am warning you that you will regret so much sooo much. Please man please I beg I beg ooga booga please man

Femurs then 7 month gap ok?

hey ghkid would you mind linking optimistics diary?
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Posted on Sep 6, 2020, 8:54 pm
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@ghkid
chill out bro, i think my surgeon might be more qualified than you to make that assesment. but i appreciate the heads up. Nothing is final yet, so theres still plenty of time to make up my mind. maybe ill do it a couple of months apart. ill keep you guys posted.

btw Dr.Paley also prefers doing the two surgerys 3-4 weeks apart, as he said in cyborgs interview.
Yes please, link optistics diary, I'd appreciate it as well.
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Posted on Sep 6, 2020, 9:35 pm
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He prefers this over doing all 4 segments in the same surgery, NOT meaning he prefers it OVER doing it across a year gap in between. He refuses to do it in the same surgery actually. He has done it for his acondroplasia dwarves before.

No one does all 4 segments together in the same surgery, as far as I'm concerned

And if your surgeon won't make you reconsider a quadrilateral, then he is not a very good surgeon. Every single good surgeon talks their patient out of it, Paley, Mahboubian, Rozbruch, all will convince their patient heavily and only the most stubborn of patients successfully stay their ground and proceed with simultaneous quadrilaterals (3 weeks staged surgeries = simultaneous). Most patient change their minds (Movie is one of those actually).

Honestly you need to read more diaries before you make a decision.

The reason I'm not chilling out is because I care for you. You are making a HUGE MISTAKE. I PROMISE YOU PLEASE I BEG I BEG JUST DO FEMURS AND COME BACK NEXT YEAR TIBIAS please 😟 or at least 6 month gap I beg I beg lord

I will not chill out sry

http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=5243.0

For @wannabeidol and @Siegfried
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Posted on Sep 6, 2020, 11:08 pm
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Quote from: ghkid2019 on September 06, 2020, 09:35:12 PMHe prefers this over doing all 4 segments in the same surgery, NOT meaning he prefers it OVER doing it across a year gap in between. He refuses to do it in the same surgery actually. He has done it for his acondroplasia dwarves before.

No one does all 4 segments together in the same surgery, as far as I'm concerned

And if your surgeon won't make you reconsider a quadrilateral, then he is not a very good surgeon. Every single good surgeon talks their patient out of it, Paley, Mahboubian, Rozbruch, all will convince their patient heavily and only the most stubborn of patients successfully stay their ground and proceed with simultaneous quadrilaterals (3 weeks staged surgeries = simultaneous). Most patient change their minds (Movie is one of those actually).

Honestly you need to read more diaries before you make a decision.

The reason I'm not chilling out is because I care for you. You are making a HUGE MISTAKE. I PROMISE YOU PLEASE I BEG I BEG JUST DO FEMURS AND COME BACK NEXT YEAR TIBIAS please 😟 or at least 6 month gap I beg I beg lord

I will not chill out sry

http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=5243.0

For @wannabeidol and @Siegfried


thanks bro <3
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Posted on Sep 7, 2020, 12:32 am
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@Siegfriedchicken


Re: Bilateral Internal Tib/Fib and Bilateral Internal Femurs with Dr. Mahboubian.
« Reply #87 on: May 29, 2018, 04:24:20 AM »
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Update:

It's been over 3 months since the surgery on my tib/fib and 2 months on my femurs. The pain is almost unbearable every night now. Daytime is okay (0-2/10 pain and only 1 to 2 pills of Norco a day are needed).

It's so bad at night now that I'm doubting myself. I don't know if it's worth it anymore. I started to lose that feeling of being rewarded with a couple inches at the end of the process. I'm dealing with physical pain, mental suffering, severe sleep deprivation (no more than 2 hours of sleep per night for over 3 months), loss of appetite, immobility, loneliness, self-doubt, slight regret, and many more.

My legs, nerves, tissues, and everything from my waist down are extremely tight. I can't stretch my legs more than half way. I can't stand up straight and my duck a** is very bad. I feel a constant pain in my right thigh around 8:00 - 9:00 pm now. This pain doesn't go away until about 8:00 am the next day. I still can bend my knees almost all the way on my left leg but not so much on my right leg.

On top of all these, I'm dealing with other personal and business matters. I don't have the energy for anything. I just want to stay in bed and do nothing. I'm no longer myself. That motivated and ambitious man is long gone. I get pissed off at everything so easy now.  I also get pissed off at everyone easily now. I really try to control myself at work.

My advice to all future CLL is DO NOT do both segments at the same time. It will break you. It's not so much about how painful it is. It's more about how long you can endure that pain.

Optimistic1
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Posted on Sep 7, 2020, 10:18 am
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you do know he did precice right? Stryde does make a significant improvement in muscle stiffness, mobility, faster regeneration etc. (just quoting paley here). In addition he was struggling with a lot of private issues, juggling his own company on the side. And he was 33. So not exactly a good comparison
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Posted on Sep 7, 2020, 12:04 pm
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Did you ask him how many cosmetic patients he has taken?

How tall is Peter Thaller? Just curious to hear
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