Femurs Barcelona - Dr Monegal

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Quote from: backrandom on December 24, 2017, 01:40:05 PMYeah you're right, no way to fix bad proportions. And no, doing tibiae is not the solution because your torso, your head, your arms, your hands and your feet are still those of a short guy. Most people who do femur and tibiae look like dwarfs on stilts: short torso, small head, short arms and disproportionaly long limbs. Being a disproportioned freak is even worse than being short

  Head size, hand size, feet size (to an extent), torso and neck have nothing to do with the length of the legs.

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They aren't 100 per 100 correlated, but shorter people usually have shorter torsos and small heads and hands and feet, and taller people usually have longer torsos and bigger heads and hands and feet. U live once is maybe fortunate and he was a shortlegged individual with big head, big feet, big hands and long torso, but most people who do LL aren't usually like this.

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Quote from: backrandom on December 24, 2017, 10:48:35 PMThey aren't 100 per 100 correlated, but shorter people usually have shorter torsos and small heads and hands and feet, and taller people usually have longer torsos and bigger heads and hands and feet. U live once is maybe fortunate and he was a shortlegged individual with big head, big feet, big hands and long torso, but most people who do LL aren't usually like this.

That is simply not true.
 

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Quote from: TIBIKE200 on December 24, 2017, 11:24:55 PMThat is simply not true.
 
It is, especially when it comes to torso length.
People by nature have some proportions which differentiate by some percent but still they are corelated each other.
So a 5.9 man could have a longer torso compared to a 5.10 man but it is impossible to have a longer torso than a 6ft man.
So when a 5.9 man becomes 6 ft with LL it is impossible to have the same torso as a naturally 6 fter. Moreover if he does 2 LL and add 14cm (as I will after my second LL). My torso length will be a joke compared to a 6ft man as my teal height was 5.65.

A short man can have wide clavicles (my back is bigger than the strong majority of tall men) and wide bones (my wrist is bigger too than most tall men I know) but when it comes to length (torso and arms) then the biggest they can have is the proportions of a man 5cm taller than they are.
Someone who lengthens more than 5cm or both segments would never have natural proportions. I know it and I see it everyday although I haven't done my second LL which will make things worse.
But I really don't care as I have big muscles and a wide back and with clothes on I'll look like a superhero (still cartoon though ) but nked my proportiins will be weird.
Still I prefer it thousand times than my initial height and anyone who does LL should care more than height than perfect proportions. Otherwise he should not do it.

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As a general rule, it works like this. The shorter you are, the shorter your torso, the smaller your head. If you lengthen both your tibia and femur you will end up GREATLY disproportioned unless you were GREATLY disproportioned to begin with. You can mask your disproportions if you have a wide frame or resort to bodybuilding but the disproportion is still there.You must decide if short is better than disproportioned or the opposite holds true.

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Quote from: Body Builder on December 24, 2017, 11:41:45 PMIt is, especially when it comes to torso length.
People by nature have some proportions which differentiate by some percent but still they are corelated each other.
So a 5.9 man could have a longer torso compared to a 5.10 man but it is impossible to have a longer torso than a 6ft man.
So when a 5.9 man becomes 6 ft with LL it is impossible to have the same torso as a naturally 6 fter. Moreover if he does 2 LL and add 14cm (as I will after my second LL). My torso length will be a joke compared to a 6ft man as my teal height was 5.65.

A short man can have wide clavicles (my back is bigger than the strong majority of tall men) and wide bones (my wrist is bigger too than most tall men I know) but when it comes to length (torso and arms) then the biggest they can have is the proportions of a man 5cm taller than they are.
Someone who lengthens more than 5cm or both segments would never have natural proportions. I know it and I see it everyday although I haven't done my second LL which will make things worse.
But I really don't care as I have big muscles and a wide back and with clothes on I'll look like a superhero (still cartoon though ) but nked my proportiins will be weird.
Still I prefer it thousand times than my initial height and anyone who does LL should care more than height than perfect proportions. Otherwise he should not do it.

Torso length is dictated mostly by sxx hormones, unlike the limbs which length's is dictated almost exclusivly by GH. You can see again the dutch sitting height study and see that the sitting height/height ratio of dutch males varied between 49.7% and 52.7% and was indipendent of height.

 Take someone who is lets say 168 and with a sitting height of 88cm. He has a SH/height ratio of 52.3. If he adds lets say 9cm his SH/height ratio will be 49.7 which is still perfect normal range (within 1 standard deviation norm).
  Half of people can add up to a max of 10cm without looking redicoulus if they belong to the 50% who are above the medial value of the SH/height ratio.


 

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Be careful with your the amount you lengthen, you May think you increase the amount you lengthen, but especially ok femurs is not very true, thats why I would have recommend yo lengthen a little more.

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Quote from: Body Builder on December 24, 2017, 11:41:45 PMIt is, especially when it comes to torso length.
People by nature have some proportions which differentiate by some percent but still they are corelated each other.
So a 5.9 man could have a longer torso compared to a 5.10 man but it is impossible to have a longer torso than a 6ft man.
So when a 5.9 man becomes 6 ft with LL it is impossible to have the same torso as a naturally 6 fter. Moreover if he does 2 LL and add 14cm (as I will after my second LL). My torso length will be a joke compared to a 6ft man as my teal height was 5.65.

A short man can have wide clavicles (my back is bigger than the strong majority of tall men) and wide bones (my wrist is bigger too than most tall men I know) but when it comes to length (torso and arms) then the biggest they can have is the proportions of a man 5cm taller than they are.
Someone who lengthens more than 5cm or both segments would never have natural proportions. I know it and I see it everyday although I haven't done my second LL which will make things worse.
But I really don't care as I have big muscles and a wide back and with clothes on I'll look like a superhero (still cartoon though ) but nked my proportiins will be weird.
Still I prefer it thousand times than my initial height and anyone who does LL should care more than height than perfect proportions. Otherwise he should not do it.

I don't think you should worry that much about proportions because nature is too varied. We see and expect to see all kinds of people. It might look weird, but most people will simply assume you have odd genetics and not think much about it. "That's just how he is."

We did even have women who commented positively on the unnaturally long legs of a few people in the LL diaries.