Femurs in Athens with Giotikas mid Jan 23

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I apologize guys, I just found out today that Hyatt swimming pool is now selling a monthly pass for 200 euros per month (at the moment) so I'm gonna do that. I didn't know about it until this morning, it seems to be new. Since I'm at Montaza and Hyatt is just across the street, I'm just going to do this.

I'd recommend you do this if its not too late if you have gnail.

If you have gnail, you will be able to handle a non-handicap Montaza room after maybe 2 weeks (not including the hospital), not sure. The handicap rooms at Montaza are good physically but they are close to the loud club music. So I stayed in the hospital a few days, I moved to a Montaza handicap room for 2 weeks ish, then I moved to a non-handicap Montaza room for the better price/noise. If it's not too late, wanna do that and we'll ride together and share taxi costs from Montaza to Hyatt's swimming pool in early 2023 January/February? We can meet up with any Hyatt patients there when we go to Hyatt's swimming pool.

I say across the street, but its not really possible to go across two very big busy large streets on the wheelchair without a taxi. Google maps will show how big those two streets are in between the two hotels, almost like two highways cutting through in between the two hotels

I'll try to fix my other post in the other thread now

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Quote from: SpeedDialer on December 24, 2022, 10:02:20 AMI apologize guys, I just found out today that Hyatt swimming pool is now selling a monthly pass for 200 euros per month (at the moment) so I'm gonna do that. I didn't know about it until this morning, it seems to be new. Since I'm at Montaza and Hyatt is just across the street, I'm just going to do this.

I'd recommend you do this if its not too late if you have gnail.

If you have gnail, you will be able to handle a non-handicap Montaza room after maybe 1.5-2 weeks, not sure. The handicap rooms at Montaza are good physically but they are close to the loud club music. If it's not too late, wanna do that and we'll ride together and share taxi costs from Montaza to Hyatt in early 2023 January/February? We can meet up with any Hyatt patients there when we go too
That sounds like a good deal. Do you find yourself swimming more or just walking in the pool?

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Quote from: thankscience on December 24, 2022, 10:39:26 AMThat sounds like a good deal. Do you find yourself swimming more or just walking in the pool?

Hey man, I edited my post above to include more information

Personally, I find myself walking more in the pool than swimming. Personally, my hip flexors/hips feel a bit weak/strange during regular swimming but I am hoping to get stronger to avoid that soon. Regular swimming is good though if you can do it, I do it very briefly

I'd recommend taking it easy at first in the swimming pool, you still want energy left over for physio in the coming days. Take breaks, socialize, use the jacuzzi to relax, etc. I think during lengthening, the stretching in the pool is possibly better than the exercising, not exactly sure. Its really nice to stretch in the pool, ex: near a wall because the water sort of just holds your upper body up for you and you can hold onto the wall for more support

You will already practice walking forwards on the anti gravity treadmill machine at the physical therapy center. So maybe it would be better to try some other motions that are different than walking forward in the water (Donghoon Lee and the Korean LL youtube hydrotherapy vids)

For novotel patients, it might be better to use Novotel's outdoor pool or find a cheaper indoor pool near Novotel if its too cold outside during certain months

Montaza and Hyatt are very close to each other but because there are two large very busy roads in between them (youtube/google maps will give an idea of how large they are, its not practical to cross those two roads without a taxi, idk its maybe like ... more than 10 lanes of very fast moving cars/motorcycles in between?) , you still need a taxi to go from Hyatt<->Montaza

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I just got back from swimming at Hyatt, and I feel more convinced of this medium budget cold weather month gnail strategy --for people who don't want to pay for Novotel or Hyatt the whole time. For the colder months of colder months of November->March, this is a decent strategy:

-1. Make sure all your stuff can be moved in roller travel bags, don't have too much stuff

0. Pick g-nail for weight bearing ability

1. Stay in either Novotel or a handicap Montaza room at first after leaving the hospital

2. After 2-3 weeks depending on your progress, move to a Montaza non-handicap room to save money (gnail patients can handle this usually, especially if you buy a toilet seat riser, ask the nurses or the bicycle/handicap stuff company that contacts you early on)

3. Buy hyatt's monthly swimming pass (call to reserve a time then buy it when you come)

4. Then carpool taxi ride with other patients to Hyatt's indoor swimming pool strategy" for the colder months of November->March. Evidently in April it becomes warm again from what Greeks have told me. 

Basically, with this strategy, you pay alot less than Hyatt patients and you still get to experience alot of the luxury/premium experience of Hyatt and its jacuzzi/swimming pool/etc.

I think in the warmer months of April-October, a 100% novotel strategy is pretty good. Worst case scenario (where you can't handle their stairs to the outdoor pool) you just ask the hotel staff to physically lift your body up to the rooftop outdoor swimming pool

This Jan-Feb 2023 I'd love to carpool taxi ride with you guys from Montaza -> Hyatt's indoor pool to train together if you're down.

I might come back to Athens in November to do precise tibias and would also love to carpool taxi ride with some of you from Novotel -> Grand Hyatt's indoor swimming pool some time.

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Hey one thing I have done with a Montaza patient before is splitting meals from the wolt food delivery app to save money

What I mean is this:

- some restaurants give huge portions you can't really finish by yourself easily -> this has resulted in patients just ending up throwing away food or having it go cold in their fridge (no microwave at montaza, not much room for one either)

Ex:
- two gyros for 7 euros is alot (you cannot order just one for 3.50 on wolt, have to order more), hard for one person to finish  -> better to split between two people
- one pizza is hard for one person to finish
- some chinese dishes (ex: beef and broccoli with onions) + rice on the side is alot of food, hard for one person to finish, better to split it between two people

So we have been doing this to cut down on food costs (the alternative is often throwing away some food or having it go cold). We just use cash (Euros) to split the costs. You can get cash from either hyatt's ATM (turn down its first offer of a bad exchange rate, accept the second implied offer) or the hospital ATM

Anyone wanna do this with me at Novotel late fall 2023/early 2024? I'm at Montaza now doing this with someone to cut down on food costs

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Hey, are you getting the g-nail. How many procedures does Dr. Giotikas do on average per month from your observations.

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Updates?

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My surgery is scheduled for 19th January.  For someone who generally has nerves of steel, I got to tell you--I'm pretty much a wreck.   

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Quote from: eztic123 on January 10, 2023, 07:04:48 AMHey, are you getting the g-nail. How many procedures does Dr. Giotikas do on average per month from your observations.

I asked him that and can't remember the exact number but it was pretty substantial.  He said that about 30% of his practice is cosmetic.  My impression of him based on my consultation and from my discussion with other people was wholly positive and that he seemed very professional.