Going from 6" to 6'3-6'4" with quadrilateral lenghtening

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Quote from: Sky is the Limit on December 15, 2023, 06:19:52 PMAs I have already stated in my initial post in this thread, the reason I am going to undergo a quadrilateral lengthening is to preserve the ratios between my tibias and femurs and to keep my biomechanics as intact as possible. I think you are underestimating the benefits of doing LL with a higher starting height. It is a tremendous advantage to have longer bones from the beginning if you are going to undergo LL. The amount of the lengthening is in proportion to the existing (initial) length of the bones very small in comparison to how much is usually lengthened in proportion to the initial length of the bones for people with lower starting heights. I also think that you are exaggerating the risks that may occur in the lengthening process. Sure, you have to take into account all the possible risks that may occur, but since the amounts of the lengthenings that I am planning to do is very small (3 cm + 6 cm or even 2,75 cm + 5,5 cm) compared to the huge amounts many people often do, I can easily undergo a quadrilateral lengthening, i.e. two surgeries in one go (with a couple of weeks in between), and be done with this whole procedure relatively easily. My height goal is 6'3 feet (190-192 cm), which is a much better and more solid height than 6 feet flat.

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Quote from: Kintaeryos on December 15, 2023, 09:36:51 AMWait, I thought the lengthening is like 0.5-1 mm per day, so for, say, 7 cm, it would be 70-140 days.

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Quote from: Sky is the Limit on December 16, 2023, 12:30:04 AMFunny thing you are planning on doing quadrilateral lengthening by up to 11,5 cm and you are calling ME crazy?

And just for the record, I am right now at this very moment in the middle of a bimax-surgery-process (jaw surgery). And do you want to know the best part? It's completely free for me! I live in a country with a publicly financed comprehensive healthcare system, and my case goes under specialised health care. So I am undergoing orthognathic surgery where they will perform a bimax and possibly a sliding genioplasty on me. My surgery will be in 1.5-2  years from now. I am now in partial braces and will get full on braces in the spring of next year. Only the braces themselves would cost me at least 6 000 euro if I would do it privately. The cost of the operation can go up to 150 000 ($) done in a private clinic in the USA. I went extatic with joy when I got opted for orthognatic surgery. And this is what opened a window for me to seriously consider undergoing LL.

The biggest question I have for now is: Should I do my quadrilateral LL BEFORE or AFTER my bimax surgery? That is the question. Could you give any advice or input in that?

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Quote from: Body Builder on December 16, 2023, 04:47:18 AMYou need about 45 days per cm from operation day till fully bone consolodation, not.just lengthening.

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Quote from: limby101 on December 16, 2023, 01:45:27 AMLook, as a guy who did the surgery...
I don't know you, and you asked for advise, that's what I have to offer. You can like or not it's up to you, it comes from an honest will to help.

People get in this forum into long debates about this surgery and the procedure, tibia or femur, 4 or 5 or 5.5 or 8 cm, proportions, etc etc....its easy to get caught in this and feel like this is your world when in fact, it's not. The real world is out there and it's full of people who think this surgery is pure crazy. And it includes many shorter guys. Shorter than average guys who of course would love to be taller but in no way in hell would consider go through this risky journey. Many girls (which obviously women are a huge reason for guys to do this) actually look down at a guy who did this kind of a surgery because it shows a serious lack of self confidence, some inferiority issues, superficiality and even lack of a mature judgement. I think a decent woman would prefer a shorter guy with confidence and charisma over a taller guy who got this surgery to be tall.
So in other words - try not to mix the guys in here and this forum with the real, sane people that are out there, which we all were a part of before this surgery infected our minds:)

Obviously, significantly shorter guys or girls that are met with this in every single social interaction or even on their own dealing with being below 1 percentile, would probably have a just case of going through this risky journey because the benefit outweigh the risks.
But for a person who is in a decent height? That's just unnecessary risk.
And for all your talk about being taller makes it less risky because of proportions etc, or even discussing whats the "safest" method, I'm sorry to say but thats just bullcrap.
You break your bones and practically maim your most essential function of your body - the ability to walk. Yes it may recover to normality but hardly it ever goes 100 percent normal and for a healthy, normal person to do it to his body,  is pretty much cruelty. So for a normal height guy? That's plain crazy.
I actually think it's crazy for people of all heights even the shortest....but I guess some craziness is more justified than others.

That is my opinion only and I wish only the happiness and th best to everyone

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Quote from: Body Builder on December 16, 2023, 04:45:59 AMQuadrilateral lengthening is always riskier than lengthening one segment. For some people it is the only way to reach a normal height but for a 6ft dude to do both segments with ridiculous amounts like 3cm on tibias is just a stupid idea. LL is the most invasive, risky and extreme cosmetic surgery, nothing to do with gnathoplasty and all these. Also, noone will be as before, even if he just lengthens 2cm. It is hillarious to believe that with quadriple LL, even with relatively low amounts, you will function as before, because you want.
And no, with 6cm on femurs and 3cm on tibias you won't keep your proportions right because femurs are not double the size of the tibias so to keep proportions you should have done something like 4cm on femurs and 3.on tibias.
Still the biomechanics will be altered with LL no.matter what. And by not even waiting to fully.consolidate from one segment and then do the other but do both of them with just a few weeks break between them is also a bad decision.
Anyway, you are some of the few cases here who really won't have any benefit from LL and no responsible doctor  should  even operate them. Still, I wish you luck and my 2 cents is just do 5cm on femur and stop there, if you really need extra height. But your body.your decision.

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Quote from: Sky is the Limit on December 16, 2023, 01:15:17 PMCould you explain why it is more riskier to undergo two separate lengthenings where the amount of the lengthening is well within the safety-limit and make up only a small percentage of the initial bone length compared to undergoing a huge lengthening in one segment, where you are stretching the muscles and nerves by far more and closer to the absolute safety limit? Many people on this forum have stated that it is far more safer in the long run to make two separate, but smaller lengthenings in two segments, than to make a huge stretch in only one segment. Going the easy way and only lengthening the femurs is not an option for me, since it will forever skew the proportions and will permanently change and affect the biomechanics and range of motions in the legs. By lengthening both tibias and femurs way within the safety limits you preserve the biomechanics and range of motion between the legs and won't have to adjust to a completely new biomechanical range of motion. If you are doing quadrilateral lengthening, you are getting longer legs that you have to adjust to, but the ratios will stay as intact as possible. The muscles and nerves will also adjust more easily due to the minor stretching that they undergo.

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Quote from: Body Builder on December 17, 2023, 03:02:06 AMBecause.the surgery.itself has many risks first of all. 2 surgeries,.double the risks.
Also, messing both segments is way worse than lengthening one segment to a safe amount and leave the other segment completely untouched. Because LL alters everything amd even with 3 cm your tibias won't be the same, the soft tissues will be sttetchen and become stiffer which will cause problems to ankle also etc.
Never doing both segments is not better.than doing one, never doing 4+2 cm on femurs and tibias will be safer than doing.6cm on femurs only.
10.years ago quadrilateral was very rare and only for very short people and nowadays many like you are willing to break all their bones in legs for ridiculous amounts and doctors are.willing to do it for double the money that they would get. Otherwise no real.doctor would have done quadrilaterals to people like you, only moneyhungry merchants.