Going from 6" to 6'3-6'4" with quadrilateral lenghtening

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Posted on Dec 18, 2023, 5:42 pm

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Quote from: CLLvet on December 18, 2023, 04:25:07 PMI essentially did what you are describing (you can see in my signature block that I did the surgery 2 times over a few years). The 2nd time my starting height was right around 6 feet (182-183 cm) pre-surgery. Now I stand 188-189 cm (6'2.5"). I mention this range because our bodies naturally shrink/ decompress a bit throughout the day, so those were my heights depending on what time in the day I measured myself (with a stadiometer).

What is the difference in how I feel now/ how I am perceived? Well nowadays, many people who meet me remark how tall I am. That did not occur when I was "only" 6 feet. Many people guess I am in the height range of 6'3-6'4, especially women who meet me. I currently live in the USA and am usually the tallest (or one of the tallest) guys in most rooms. Those things certainly DID NOT occur while I was "only" 6 feet.

So becoming that tall is something that might benefit your mental health (if your goal is to become taller than everyone). But it will not give you any strong social advantages. I agree with some other posters here that the "social advantages" are probably much more noticeable for someone who increases their height from say 5'5" to 5'10" or something around that range. That person is transforming from "short" to "average/ above average". At his newfound 5'10 height, he is now free from height discrimination (and perhaps ridicule/ insensitive comments from others) that he may have heard at his prior 5'5" height. He will no longer be disqualified by women as a dating prospect due to height. He will no longer be identified as "the short guy." And that will free him to achieve great things and be his best self around others, because his height is no longer a barrier socially.

However, in your case, (going from 6' to 6'3), you are going from tall to "very tall." How important is it to you to be "very tall?" If it is important to you personally, maybe it is worth it (it was for me). But if you are trying to improve your dating life or business prospects (societal benefits), then don't expect some sort of radical benefits socially. People will still pretty much treat you the same afterwards, there will not be a radical shift, just because you are now "very tall".

Wow dude, 174 to 188 is an insane jump. From below average to within the ideal male height range. Did you write diaries for your two lengthenings?

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Quote from: CLLvet on December 18, 2023, 04:25:07 PMI essentially did what you are describing (you can see in my signature block that I did the surgery 2 times over a few years). The 2nd time my starting height was right around 6 feet (182-183 cm) pre-surgery. Now I stand 188-189 cm (6'2.5"). I mention this range because our bodies naturally shrink/ decompress a bit throughout the day, so those were my heights depending on what time in the day I measured myself (with a stadiometer).

What is the difference in how I feel now/ how I am perceived? Well nowadays, many people who meet me remark how tall I am. That did not occur when I was "only" 6 feet. Many people guess I am in the height range of 6'3-6'4, especially women who meet me. I currently live in the USA and am usually the tallest (or one of the tallest) guys in most rooms. Those things certainly DID NOT occur while I was "only" 6 feet.

So becoming that tall is something that might benefit your mental health (if your goal is to become taller than everyone). But it will not give you any strong social advantages. I agree with some other posters here that the "social advantages" are probably much more noticeable for someone who increases their height from say 5'5" to 5'10" or something around that range. That person is transforming from "short" to "average/ above average". At his newfound 5'10 height, he is now free from height discrimination (and perhaps ridicule/ insensitive comments from others) that he may have heard at his prior 5'5" height. He will no longer be disqualified by women as a dating prospect due to height. He will no longer be identified as "the short guy." And that will free him to achieve great things and be his best self around others, because his height is no longer a barrier socially.

However, in your case, (going from 6' to 6'3), you are going from tall to "very tall." How important is it to you to be "very tall?" If it is important to you personally, maybe it is worth it (it was for me). But if you are trying to improve your dating life or business prospects (societal benefits), then don't expect some sort of radical benefits socially. People will still pretty much treat you the same afterwards, there will not be a radical shift, just because you are now "very tall".

Wow dude, 174 to 188 is an insane jump. From below average to within the ideal male height range. Did you write diaries for your two lengthenings?

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Posted on Dec 19, 2023, 5:48 am

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Quote from: CLLvet on December 18, 2023, 05:01:38 PMSure, I can. What specifically would you like to see?

How was ur lordosis after femur lengthening? I can imagine it was severe.

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Posted on Dec 19, 2023, 2:04 pm

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@slowed & reverb- At the moment, I prefer not to post pics of me on a public form (even with my face cropped out). However, if you shoot me a Private Message (PM) on here, I can send you the photos that I have.

Keep in mind, I may not have a lot of full-body photos from before the surgeries. I suffered from pretty severe height dysphoria at the time and largely avoided taking photos full body, standing up.

I have never measured my wingspan as I was simply never interested in that data point. And I hate the act of any part of my body being measured (due to the dysphoria).

Propotion-wise today, nobody thinks anything is "off" with my body. Obviously my legs are a bit long for my torso, but I have never had anyone (including women I am dating) even suspect for a moment that something is out of proportion or not right. They just look at me and see a tall, fit guy.

But again, I can send you some pics over PM and you can be the judge.

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Posted on Dec 19, 2023, 2:23 pm

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Quote from: Kintaeryos on December 18, 2023, 05:42:05 PMWow dude, 174 to 188 is an insane jump. From below average to within the ideal male height range. Did you write diaries for your two lengthenings?

Thanks Kintaeryos, yes it was definitely a journey. I did not post a diary on the forum because I was very single-minded during my journey and I simply wanted to get through it without distractions, if that makes sense.

However, over the years, I have been putting together my "Guide to Limb Lengthening." It started as a personal diary/ journey to help me reflect on the experience and I never planned to show it to anybody else. However, it has turned into more of a practical guide that could help other LL'ers. I tried to go into detail on topics I wish I had known before my surgery. Like logistical matters, lessons learned, things I would have done differently, tips on how to select accommodation, questions to ask surgeons when you first interview them, how to keep this surgery private from family members and coworkers, etc. The privacy was something I made some mistakes on and I would do different now if I could turn back time.

And now that this journey is behind me, I want to give back to the community and share my experiences. So I will try to figure out a way to share it with the community, if that is something that people can find useful.

I feel that forum diaries can be useful, but they are somewhat too personally oriented to apply to a lot of people and be practical. I did read through a lot of diaries myself before getting the procedures. However, I found the content in the diaries a bit overwhelming and challenging to navigate, especially if the diaries began to span pages and pages in length. At times, it was also depressing and confusing. It was hard extracting the important/ applicable parts.

Everyone will have aches and pains, but your experience in terms of pain will differ a lot from the individual posting the diary. Having gone through it twice now), I feel that a practical guide (condensed, easy to follow, sequenced) focusing on lessons learned, logistics, etc is what can really help out a lot of people.

So long story short, those are some of the reasons I never wrote a diary on here. But I am trying to put together content right now that hopefully might be even more helpful. Again, thanks for your comment and your questions.

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Quote from: Kintaeryos on December 18, 2023, 05:42:05 PMWow dude, 174 to 188 is an insane jump. From below average to within the ideal male height range. Did you write diaries for your two lengthenings?

Thanks Kintaeryos, yes it was definitely a journey. I did not post a diary on the forum because I was very single-minded during my journey and I simply wanted to get through it without distractions, if that makes sense.

However, over the years, I have been putting together my "Guide to Limb Lengthening." It started as a personal diary/ journey to help me reflect on the experience and I never planned to show it to anybody else. However, it has turned into more of a practical guide that could help other LL'ers. I tried to go into detail on topics I wish I had known before my surgery. Like logistical matters, lessons learned, things I would have done differently, tips on how to select accommodation, questions to ask surgeons when you first interview them, how to keep this surgery private from family members and coworkers, etc. The privacy was something I made some mistakes on and I would do different now if I could turn back time.

And now that this journey is behind me, I want to give back to the community and share my experiences. So I will try to figure out a way to share it with the community, if that is something that people can find useful.

I feel that forum diaries can be useful, but they are somewhat too personally oriented to apply to a lot of people and be practical. I did read through a lot of diaries myself before getting the procedures. However, I found the content in the diaries a bit overwhelming and challenging to navigate, especially if the diaries began to span pages and pages in length. At times, it was also depressing and confusing. It was hard extracting the important/ applicable parts.

Everyone will have aches and pains, but your experience in terms of pain will differ a lot from the individual posting the diary. Having gone through it twice now), I feel that a practical guide (condensed, easy to follow, sequenced) focusing on lessons learned, logistics, etc is what can really help out a lot of people.

So long story short, those are some of the reasons I never wrote a diary on here. But I am trying to put together content right now that hopefully might be even more helpful. Again, thanks for your comment and your questions.

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Posted on Dec 19, 2023, 2:33 pm

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Quote from: Beemer m3 on December 19, 2023, 05:48:14 AMHow was ur lordosis after femur lengthening? I can imagine it was severe.

It actually wasn't so bad. I did have some duckass. What I found most helpful to help these kinds of posture/ physical problems was:

-Stretching my quads as much as possible through the standing quad stretch (standing up and pulling my feet to my butt)
-Strengthening my glutes and hamstrings at the gym through leg curl exercises (lay down on your stomach and pull the weight to your butt)

I really did almost no formal physical therapy once I completed lengthening and I still found these issues eventually resolved with time, without me doing much (besides walking and some exercises I just mentioned). But I would recommend someone try to continue with physical therapy in the consolidation phase. Your recovery will speed up and you will feel much better.

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Posted on Dec 19, 2023, 7:35 pm

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Quote from: Body Builder on December 17, 2023, 03:02:06 AMBecause.the surgery.itself has many risks first of all. 2 surgeries,.double the risks.
Also, messing both segments is way worse than lengthening one segment to a safe amount and leave the other segment completely untouched. Because LL alters everything amd even with 3 cm your tibias won't be the same, the soft tissues will be sttetchen and become stiffer which will cause problems to ankle also etc.
Never doing both segments is not better.than doing one, never doing 4+2 cm on femurs and tibias will be safer than doing.6cm on femurs only.
10.years ago quadrilateral was very rare and only for very short people and nowadays many like you are willing to break all their bones in legs for ridiculous amounts and doctors are.willing to do it for double the money that they would get. Otherwise no real.doctor would have done quadrilaterals to people like you, only moneyhungry merchants.

Yes, the soft tissues will always be stretched when undergoing LL, but it is always safer to stretch as little as possible. For example, the risk of complications to the ankle is by far greater in a situation where a tibia has been stretched by 7,5 cm than compared to a tibia that has been lengthened by only 3,5-4 cm. Wouldn't you agree? Also, the effects of the stretching also depends on the initial length of the bone that is being stretched. The less the bone is lengthened in proportion to its original length, the better it is and the less taxing it is for the leg. The risk of complications also drops significantly the less the amount of lengthening is in relation to the initial bone length.

And by the way. Just to point it out for you. First you write that the soft tissue will be stretched, and right after that you say that it is better to stretch more than less. I am sorry, but your reasoning does not make any sense. The majority of people on this forum agree that doing two separate lengthenings within the safe limits (if there actually are any "true" safe limits) is far better than making a huge stretch in only one segment. For example, a stretch of 5 cm femur + 3,75 cm tibia is better than stretching the tibia or femur alone by 8-9 cm.

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Quote from: Body Builder on December 17, 2023, 03:02:06 AMBecause.the surgery.itself has many risks first of all. 2 surgeries,.double the risks.
Also, messing both segments is way worse than lengthening one segment to a safe amount and leave the other segment completely untouched. Because LL alters everything amd even with 3 cm your tibias won't be the same, the soft tissues will be sttetchen and become stiffer which will cause problems to ankle also etc.
Never doing both segments is not better.than doing one, never doing 4+2 cm on femurs and tibias will be safer than doing.6cm on femurs only.
10.years ago quadrilateral was very rare and only for very short people and nowadays many like you are willing to break all their bones in legs for ridiculous amounts and doctors are.willing to do it for double the money that they would get. Otherwise no real.doctor would have done quadrilaterals to people like you, only moneyhungry merchants.

Yes, the soft tissues will always be stretched when undergoing LL, but it is always safer to stretch as little as possible. For example, the risk of complications to the ankle is by far greater in a situation where a tibia has been stretched by 7,5 cm than compared to a tibia that has been lengthened by only 3,5-4 cm. Wouldn't you agree? Also, the effects of the stretching also depends on the initial length of the bone that is being stretched. The less the bone is lengthened in proportion to its original length, the better it is and the less taxing it is for the leg. The risk of complications also drops significantly the less the amount of lengthening is in relation to the initial bone length.

And by the way. Just to point it out for you. First you write that the soft tissue will be stretched, and right after that you say that it is better to stretch more than less. I am sorry, but your reasoning does not make any sense. The majority of people on this forum agree that doing two separate lengthenings within the safe limits (if there actually are any "true" safe limits) is far better than making a huge stretch in only one segment. For example, a stretch of 5 cm femur + 3,75 cm tibia is better than stretching the tibia or femur alone by 8-9 cm.

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Posted on Dec 19, 2023, 8:05 pm

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Quote from: Body Builder on December 17, 2023, 01:42:49 PM3cm is a ridiculous amount to break your legs for that.
If you are willing to do tibias you should do 5-6.5 cm to really worth it. Otherwise stick with 6-7 cm on femurs and nothing more.
OP will be tall even with 6cm added on femurs.which is a reasonable and relatively safe amount and nothing else. By breaking the tibias for 3cm he won't gain anything in reality. The biomechanics won't be ok with 7cm on femurs and 3on tibias, the difference should have been something like 6cm on femurs and 4,5 on tibias. Still the biomechanics will be altered.from LL no matter what, even if the ratio between femurs and tibias would remain the same (which it won't with 7 and 3 cm).
And of course.doing 2 surgeries instead of 1, especially as he wrote he would do them (not the second after completely rehabilitation of the first but with only some weeks difference) is an extra recipe for disaster.

But I'll wait for his diary and see if he will do it first of all and especially if he goes with tibias too after seeing how extreme LL is . Because most of people who talk about that ridiculous amounts (most of the times already average or tall) never do it, at least not as they planned it. They do one segment at best and just that.

Take a ruler and see how much 3,5-3,75 cm really is. It is quite a significant amount. Then put the ruler above your knee. Now you will see how much longer your tibia will be after the LL. It makes up quite a difference. Some people only need that little extra to reach their ideal height. The ideal height may differ between people, but the universal consensus for ideal male height is usually between 6'2-6'4" (Western world). My own ideal height is 6'3".

As I wrote in my initial post, the amounts that I am going to lengthen is not written in stone. The final amounts of lengthenings will be determined after consultation with a doctor. If 7 cm (femur) and 3 cm (tibia) is not close to proportional, then I will of course adjust the amounts of lengths and choose the best ratio. I will probably also end up lengthening only up to 8,5 cm, since my height goal is between 191-192 cm.

It might end up that the ratio between the tibia and femur will be something like 5 cm (femur) + 3,75 cm (tibia), whichever amounts of lengths are the most proportional to the original ratio between the bone lengths. By lengthening both segments equally much in proportion to the original ratio, the more intact the biomechanics will be. However, if you lengthen only the femur by up to 7 cm, and the tibia with 0 cm, the ratio will definitely not be the same and as good compared to a situation where both segments are lengthened proportionally.

Why would it be an extra recipe for disaster to do both surgeries in one go and be done with it all, if there are good prerequisites for undergoing the LL?

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Quote from: Body Builder on December 17, 2023, 01:42:49 PM3cm is a ridiculous amount to break your legs for that.
If you are willing to do tibias you should do 5-6.5 cm to really worth it. Otherwise stick with 6-7 cm on femurs and nothing more.
OP will be tall even with 6cm added on femurs.which is a reasonable and relatively safe amount and nothing else. By breaking the tibias for 3cm he won't gain anything in reality. The biomechanics won't be ok with 7cm on femurs and 3on tibias, the difference should have been something like 6cm on femurs and 4,5 on tibias. Still the biomechanics will be altered.from LL no matter what, even if the ratio between femurs and tibias would remain the same (which it won't with 7 and 3 cm).
And of course.doing 2 surgeries instead of 1, especially as he wrote he would do them (not the second after completely rehabilitation of the first but with only some weeks difference) is an extra recipe for disaster.

But I'll wait for his diary and see if he will do it first of all and especially if he goes with tibias too after seeing how extreme LL is . Because most of people who talk about that ridiculous amounts (most of the times already average or tall) never do it, at least not as they planned it. They do one segment at best and just that.

Take a ruler and see how much 3,5-3,75 cm really is. It is quite a significant amount. Then put the ruler above your knee. Now you will see how much longer your tibia will be after the LL. It makes up quite a difference. Some people only need that little extra to reach their ideal height. The ideal height may differ between people, but the universal consensus for ideal male height is usually between 6'2-6'4" (Western world). My own ideal height is 6'3".

As I wrote in my initial post, the amounts that I am going to lengthen is not written in stone. The final amounts of lengthenings will be determined after consultation with a doctor. If 7 cm (femur) and 3 cm (tibia) is not close to proportional, then I will of course adjust the amounts of lengths and choose the best ratio. I will probably also end up lengthening only up to 8,5 cm, since my height goal is between 191-192 cm.

It might end up that the ratio between the tibia and femur will be something like 5 cm (femur) + 3,75 cm (tibia), whichever amounts of lengths are the most proportional to the original ratio between the bone lengths. By lengthening both segments equally much in proportion to the original ratio, the more intact the biomechanics will be. However, if you lengthen only the femur by up to 7 cm, and the tibia with 0 cm, the ratio will definitely not be the same and as good compared to a situation where both segments are lengthened proportionally.

Why would it be an extra recipe for disaster to do both surgeries in one go and be done with it all, if there are good prerequisites for undergoing the LL?

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Posted on Dec 19, 2023, 8:30 pm

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Quote from: CLLvet on December 18, 2023, 04:25:07 PMI essentially did what you are describing (you can see in my signature block that I did the surgery 2 times over a few years). The 2nd time my starting height was right around 6 feet (182-183 cm) pre-surgery. Now I stand 188-189 cm (6'2.5"). I mention this range because our bodies naturally shrink/ decompress a bit throughout the day, so those were my heights depending on what time in the day I measured myself (with a stadiometer).

What is the difference in how I feel now/ how I am perceived? Well nowadays, many people who meet me remark how tall I am. That did not occur when I was "only" 6 feet. Many people guess I am in the height range of 6'3-6'4, especially women who meet me. I currently live in the USA and am usually the tallest (or one of the tallest) guys in most rooms. Those things certainly DID NOT occur while I was "only" 6 feet.

So becoming that tall is something that might benefit your mental health (if your goal is to become taller than everyone). But it will not give you any strong social advantages. I agree with some other posters here that the "social advantages" are probably much more noticeable for someone who increases their height from say 5'5" to 5'10" or something around that range. That person is transforming from "short" to "average/ above average". At his newfound 5'10 height, he is now free from height discrimination (and perhaps ridicule/ insensitive comments from others) that he may have heard at his prior 5'5" height. He will no longer be disqualified by women as a dating prospect due to height. He will no longer be identified as "the short guy." And that will free him to achieve great things and be his best self around others, because his height is no longer a barrier socially.

However, in your case, (going from 6' to 6'3), you are going from tall to "very tall." How important is it to you to be "very tall?" If it is important to you personally, maybe it is worth it (it was for me). But if you are trying to improve your dating life or business prospects (societal benefits), then don't expect some sort of radical benefits socially. People will still pretty much treat you the same afterwards, there will not be a radical shift, just because you are now "very tall".

Wow! Thanks for your input! Very nice to hear about your LL experience and how it has affected your life. I am very glad for you.

As I have mentioned somewhere in this thread, I know that I would benefit both proportionally and aesthetically as a whole with a little longer legs. I also see myself as above 190 cm, and the thought of reaching that height simply makes me happy. I also live in Scandinavia, where 6 feet is dead average - above average at best. Going from 6 feet to 6'3" would definitely have a positive impact on my life, but mostly on my own self image, and that is the most important part and reason to make an adjustment to one's height. While 6'3" is tall, I don't consider it very tall. To me, it's just an impressive height.

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Quote from: CLLvet on December 18, 2023, 04:25:07 PMI essentially did what you are describing (you can see in my signature block that I did the surgery 2 times over a few years). The 2nd time my starting height was right around 6 feet (182-183 cm) pre-surgery. Now I stand 188-189 cm (6'2.5"). I mention this range because our bodies naturally shrink/ decompress a bit throughout the day, so those were my heights depending on what time in the day I measured myself (with a stadiometer).

What is the difference in how I feel now/ how I am perceived? Well nowadays, many people who meet me remark how tall I am. That did not occur when I was "only" 6 feet. Many people guess I am in the height range of 6'3-6'4, especially women who meet me. I currently live in the USA and am usually the tallest (or one of the tallest) guys in most rooms. Those things certainly DID NOT occur while I was "only" 6 feet.

So becoming that tall is something that might benefit your mental health (if your goal is to become taller than everyone). But it will not give you any strong social advantages. I agree with some other posters here that the "social advantages" are probably much more noticeable for someone who increases their height from say 5'5" to 5'10" or something around that range. That person is transforming from "short" to "average/ above average". At his newfound 5'10 height, he is now free from height discrimination (and perhaps ridicule/ insensitive comments from others) that he may have heard at his prior 5'5" height. He will no longer be disqualified by women as a dating prospect due to height. He will no longer be identified as "the short guy." And that will free him to achieve great things and be his best self around others, because his height is no longer a barrier socially.

However, in your case, (going from 6' to 6'3), you are going from tall to "very tall." How important is it to you to be "very tall?" If it is important to you personally, maybe it is worth it (it was for me). But if you are trying to improve your dating life or business prospects (societal benefits), then don't expect some sort of radical benefits socially. People will still pretty much treat you the same afterwards, there will not be a radical shift, just because you are now "very tall".

Wow! Thanks for your input! Very nice to hear about your LL experience and how it has affected your life. I am very glad for you.

As I have mentioned somewhere in this thread, I know that I would benefit both proportionally and aesthetically as a whole with a little longer legs. I also see myself as above 190 cm, and the thought of reaching that height simply makes me happy. I also live in Scandinavia, where 6 feet is dead average - above average at best. Going from 6 feet to 6'3" would definitely have a positive impact on my life, but mostly on my own self image, and that is the most important part and reason to make an adjustment to one's height. While 6'3" is tall, I don't consider it very tall. To me, it's just an impressive height.

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Quote from: Sky is the Limit on December 19, 2023, 08:05:38 PMTake a ruler and see how much 3,5-3,75 cm really is. It is quite a significant amount. Then put the ruler above your knee. Now you will see how much longer your tibia will be after the LL. It makes up quite a difference. Some people only need that little extra to reach their ideal height. The ideal height may differ between people, but the universal consensus for ideal male height is usually between 6'2-6'4" (Western world). My own ideal height is 6'3".

As I wrote in my initial post, the amounts that I am going to lengthen is not written in stone. The final amounts of lengthenings will be determined after consultation with a doctor. If 7 cm (femur) and 3 cm (tibia) is not close to proportional, then I will of course adjust the amounts of lengths and choose the best ratio. I will probably also end up lengthening only up to 8,5 cm, since my height goal is between 191-192 cm.

It might end up that the ratio between the tibia and femur will be something like 5 cm (femur) + 3,75 cm (tibia), whichever amounts of lengths are the most proportional to the original ratio between the bone lengths. By lengthening both segments equally much in proportion to the original ratio, the more intact the biomechanics will be. However, if you lengthen only the femur by up to 7 cm, and the tibia with 0 cm, the ratio will definitely not be the same and as good compared to a situation where both segments are lengthened proportionally.

Why would it be an extra recipe for disaster to do both surgeries in one go and be done with it all, if there are good prerequisites for undergoing the LL?

Nowhere in the world the ideal height is 6.4 for a man. Everywhere this height is comsidered from too tall to weirdly tall.
6.25 is the upper limit of a good height (which is a sum of aesthetics and functionality) and in most places 6.1 is perfect.
As a 6.25 man told you, noone cares about your height if you are more than 6ft, literally noone. And breaking both your leg's parts while you are already 6ft is ridiculous itself. Moreover breaking your tibias for 3cm while you think that this is the safest way, although you can just do 1 LL on femurs, gain 5-6 cm and have an already very tall height (6.2).
Anything else doesn't matter. Just write us the doctor that is willing to do a quadrilateral lengthening to you because only that is enough to never consider him as a reliable and sensible doctor.

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Quote from: Sky is the Limit on December 19, 2023, 08:05:38 PMTake a ruler and see how much 3,5-3,75 cm really is. It is quite a significant amount. Then put the ruler above your knee. Now you will see how much longer your tibia will be after the LL. It makes up quite a difference. Some people only need that little extra to reach their ideal height. The ideal height may differ between people, but the universal consensus for ideal male height is usually between 6'2-6'4" (Western world). My own ideal height is 6'3".

As I wrote in my initial post, the amounts that I am going to lengthen is not written in stone. The final amounts of lengthenings will be determined after consultation with a doctor. If 7 cm (femur) and 3 cm (tibia) is not close to proportional, then I will of course adjust the amounts of lengths and choose the best ratio. I will probably also end up lengthening only up to 8,5 cm, since my height goal is between 191-192 cm.

It might end up that the ratio between the tibia and femur will be something like 5 cm (femur) + 3,75 cm (tibia), whichever amounts of lengths are the most proportional to the original ratio between the bone lengths. By lengthening both segments equally much in proportion to the original ratio, the more intact the biomechanics will be. However, if you lengthen only the femur by up to 7 cm, and the tibia with 0 cm, the ratio will definitely not be the same and as good compared to a situation where both segments are lengthened proportionally.

Why would it be an extra recipe for disaster to do both surgeries in one go and be done with it all, if there are good prerequisites for undergoing the LL?

Nowhere in the world the ideal height is 6.4 for a man. Everywhere this height is comsidered from too tall to weirdly tall.
6.25 is the upper limit of a good height (which is a sum of aesthetics and functionality) and in most places 6.1 is perfect.
As a 6.25 man told you, noone cares about your height if you are more than 6ft, literally noone. And breaking both your leg's parts while you are already 6ft is ridiculous itself. Moreover breaking your tibias for 3cm while you think that this is the safest way, although you can just do 1 LL on femurs, gain 5-6 cm and have an already very tall height (6.2).
Anything else doesn't matter. Just write us the doctor that is willing to do a quadrilateral lengthening to you because only that is enough to never consider him as a reliable and sensible doctor.

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Posted on Dec 20, 2023, 4:51 pm

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Quote from: Body Builder on December 19, 2023, 11:56:18 PMNowhere in the world the ideal height is 6.4 for a man. Everywhere this height is comsidered from too tall to weirdly tall.
6.25 is the upper limit of a good height (which is a sum of aesthetics and functionality) and in most places 6.1 is perfect.
As a 6.25 man told you, noone cares about your height if you are more than 6ft, literally noone. And breaking both your leg's parts while you are already 6ft is ridiculous itself. Moreover breaking your tibias for 3cm while you think that this is the safest way, although you can just do 1 LL on femurs, gain 5-6 cm and have an already very tall height (6.2).
Anything else doesn't matter. Just write us the doctor that is willing to do a quadrilateral lengthening to you because only that is enough to never consider him as a reliable and sensible doctor.

You're still not addressing the biomechanics point or the fact that lengthening the tibias by 2-3 cm and the femurs by 4-5 cm should in principle be safer than lengthening only the femurs by 7-8 cm. What are your arguments? What are you basing your claims on? And OK maybe you think OP doesn't need LL cause he already has a decent height, but I have similar questions and I'm a much lower height (and I also want about 7-8 cm lengthening) so that doesn't apply to me. Pretend I'm the one who asked.

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