Height neurosis and suicide

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Quote from: Chris on July 16, 2016, 06:00:13 PMI'm 161cm and where I live it's about 10cm too short to be considered equal. Instead, I'm considered inferior and the ppl around me love to show or even tell me that.

Then replace those people. F*ck 'em

I'm serious. Completely serious. Fire anyone from your life that treats you that way. They are not worth your time, and you are worth more than that.

I rarely see my own mother because she gives me sh*t about height. So I fired her ass.

There are TONS of people out there that just will not care that you are short, including women, so find them. Surround yourself with good hearted, good natured people. There are more out there than you think.

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Quote from: CCMidwest on July 16, 2016, 08:49:38 PMThen replace those people. F*ck 'em

I'm serious. Completely serious. Fire anyone from your life that treats you that way. They are not worth your time, and you are worth more than that.

I rarely see my own mother because she gives me sh*t about height. So I fired her ass.

There are TONS of people out there that just will not care that you are short, including women, so find them. Surround yourself with good hearted, good natured people. There are more out there than you think.

Sorry to hear about your mother pal. May i ask what it is she says to you? For a mother to do that imo is just beyond cruel

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Quote from: Bigpoppapump on July 16, 2016, 08:57:19 PMSorry to hear about your mother pal. May i ask what it is she says to you? For a mother to do that imo is just beyond cruel

Thanks.

I'd rather not answer that question though.

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Quote from: Chris on July 16, 2016, 06:00:13 PMI think what you need is HOPE for a change. It doesn't have to be LL of course. But it seems that it's hope what keeps us going in every given situation we are in.

In my experience, "hope" is like happiness...it's fleeting and temporary. It's not really a natural state of being.

I think life is more about contentment and trust in yourself. You don't have to have "hope" when you trust yourself enough to know that you can make a good life regardless of the circumstances.

"hope" puts control of your life into something intangible. Control and influence of your own life is what leads to contentment. That's where height neurosis comes from, is feeling out of control...because you can't control height. BUT, you can control SO MANY other things in your life.

Constant, measurable, and objective forward movement towards your goals in life is MUCH better than hope. Hope doesn't lead to progress, progress leads to hope. Make sense?

Read the books "Mini Habits" & "How to be an imperfectionist" both by Stephen Guise. Amazing books. The imperfectionist book is the mindset you should have, and the mini habits book is the road map for forward movement.

Lifting more, earning more, LL, dating more, whatever the goal is...those books will help, no motivation required...just follow the steps.

(Ok, that's enough motivational bullsh*t from me for one day    )

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To the OP - I'm new here, but this seems like a very welcoming community. I'm sorry to hear that your height has affected you the way it has.

Obviously everyone here wants to be taller . Height is desirable for many reasons, and now increases are achievable after the natural growth cycle.

But even if you don't have a procedure done such as LL, life in general is a beautiful thing. I've never, not once, contemplated ending it because I was short. Stature really is relative. If you watch ESPN, commentators talk about "short" quarterbacks all the time, referring to Russell Wilson (5'11" tall), Drew Brees (6'0") and the like. Those are dream heights for many people, and those folks are short compared to their peers. Same in NBA, etc.

There's so much more out there than height. Sure, some of us obsess with it. It's the same with obesity. Eventually, they'll have a pill to cure this, just like they have a pill for everything else. Until then, we have to make tough choices such as LL, and even if we don't opt into something like LL, things are still OK.

If things get to be too much, please seek professional assistance. Believe me, there are far far far far far worse things than being "short", whatever this even means, by whatever standards.

--jbc

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Well said, JBC, well said.

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Thanks for the reply folks

Regarding myself there have been times i have come extremely close. Things that have sent me over the edge in the past is when women have vocally made fun of my height in social settings and the guys there smiled with glee thankful they are the ones not afflicted with short stature. The annoying thing about these guys is that they are plain looking guys who are out of shape yet thanks to the virtue of height have coasted through life on the back of their height.

Other occasions have been when ive been sitting at a bar and get approached by women only to get ditched the moment i stand up and they see my height.

I was a talented rugby player when i was 'growing up' no pun intended yet coaches fkd me around and continually moved me into positions i didnt play to make way for taller guys who were largely useless

I wouldnt wish short stature on anyone. Ive even gone through stages of being really angry with my parents for having me in the first place when they are not genetically compatible and then for not insisting i get HGH which im sure would have saved me from this. With HGH im sure id have finished up 5-10/5-11ish

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CCMidwest, people who commit or think about suicide turn their negative impulses against themselves.
You on the other hand turn your negative impulses against others. You remove everyone from your own perception who has a problem with your height.
Both are the same form of aggression actually, just pointed at two different directions.

You have no idea what is going on in the heads of suicidal people. The pain is real and whatever is causing the pain is a real problem, may it be height related or not. We know the reasons for our problems, but we have no way to solve them. It is a VERY long road to this point where you realize that there is no chance, no HOPE. And we are not stupid because we prefer to hit ourselves instead of others in order to end this infinite unbearable suffering. This is no weakens, this is mercy! Should I rather punch or "fire" everyone who is an   to me because I'm a little creature to them? I would have to "fire" the hole country then, because it's hard-coded in their brains. Plus that makes it not even their fault which gives me no right to turn my desperation/anger against them. If you can't change the world you have no other option then to change yourself. If there is no way to change yourself, try to compensate that for 20 years and see what happens when you explode.
Welcome to just one level deeper into a suicidal head!

And regarding the "hope" thing:
Suicidal people have (or see) no option to change the situation they are in.
Hope is a the theoretical probability of a long-term solution and maybe a key out. It's like a last straw your brain can grasp before you finally go down.
Without options or hope, you are dead. If you don't kill yourself you will starve, because your brain will blend out reality.
That's even proven science.

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Quote from: Bigpoppapump on July 16, 2016, 10:35:30 PMI wouldnt wish short stature on anyone. Ive even gone through stages of being really angry with my parents for having me in the first place when they are not genetically compatible and then for not insisting i get HGH which im sure would have saved me from this. With HGH im sure id have finished up 5-10/5-11ish

Im just gonna quote myself from other topic

Quote from: YourSpaceBoyfriend on July 06, 2016, 04:56:21 PMHGH won't do anything when your growth plates are fused already.

You get as much height as your genes allow(unless you have endocrine problems as i do) there is no magical way of increasing it except LL.

People even after HGH injections in their early years don't have any guarantee that they will grow there is tons of examples like that.

Quote from: YourSpaceBoyfriend on July 06, 2016, 08:46:46 PMBesides HGH has a lot of side effects and can screw your endocrine system up.

HGH is not magical substance that makes you grow past your genes.

Trust me i have a lot of hormonal problems and i was potential patient to get HGH but i basically came too late.

If you have idiopatic short stature there is a slim chance that HGH will do anything.

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Probably the suicide hotlines for the various country's should be stickied somewhere on this forum.

Oh, and I put a 9mm to my head in November 2015 because of height, so don't tell me what you "think" I know about suicidal thoughts.

International Helpline Berlin
Postfach 580251
10412
BERLIN
Contact by: - Phone
Hotline: 6-12pm English service: 030-44 01 06 07
Hotline: Russian service: 030-44 01 06 06
Website: international-helpline.com


But, whatever, I got better sh*t to do.