Heightism

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Quote from: myloginacc on November 23, 2018, 10:25:47 PM5'3 is about the average height for a man in Laos, but it'd probably fall under constitutional short stature in tall European countries.
I was thinking about countries with extremely short averages when I was writing my question, I guess I was just underestimating how much diet and hygiene can actually affect someones final height. Places like Bolivia/Peru/Vietnam are perfect examples of how a terrible diet can wreck you.

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Quote from: ThatGuy on November 23, 2018, 11:56:01 PMI was thinking about countries with extremely short averages when I was writing my question, I guess I was just underestimating how much diet and hygiene can actually affect someones final height. Places like Bolivia/Peru/Vietnam are perfect examples of how a terrible diet can wreck you.

Vietnam and Peru have done fine economically (as far as I'm informed) for the last couple decades. It's mostly genetics there.

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Quote from: myloginacc on November 24, 2018, 12:37:54 AMVietnam and Peru have done fine economically (as far as I'm informed) for the last couple decades. It's mostly genetics there.
Hmm, Vietnam and Peru might not have been my best choices here, but I still don't think the averages would stay around 5'4 with decent diets and proper sanitation.

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Are you calling short people dirty?

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No, I'm saying if you aren't in a very clean environment and you have overall poor hygiene it can wreck your crap through infection or disease in the midst of development. Poor hygiene as in not washing your hands and maybe eating food without properly cleaning it.

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Very clean environment is almost as bad as poor one. I mean sanitation is important but raising children in environments that are too clean leads to a weak immune system and can make them prone to autoimmune and allergic diseases later in life. Also, a disease common in the Western world such as childood leukaemia is associated with low exposure to infections, yet it's almost non-existent in the poorest countries.

I remember when I was a kid my parents always urged me to wash my hands with antibacterial soap, almost never played outside, no pets etc. Now I have awful hay fever and many other allergies. My brother on the other hand was raised in a village. No allergies at all.

In general, too much of anything is bad.

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i find you a bit prejudicial. Im a short person and i  was born and raised in Canada. and im also a person of color. There are a lot of short people in Canada , United States and also there are a lot of tall people in the ''underdeveloped'' countries. It has a lot to do with genetics. I use to think that maybe my short stature had to do wit h bad eating habits..i mean i think it did contribut to it but my mom is five two and my dad cant be taller than five six. Both are very successful people and well respect. Though for some reason they look really tall. But yea please stop generalizing and putting down nations that are non white. It just leads to more division, more people think they are inferior and causes discrimination.

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I'm the prejudice one when you're saying these people are 5'3 because of their genetics? I bet black people have lower iqs because of their ethnicity too. Saying that a nation's economics and sanitation being poor negatively effects their development is not prejudice even remotely. what you're saying would be like saying blacks commit more crime not because of their socioeconomic status, but because they're genetically predisposed to. I'll help you out, if you see me saying that something is the fault of any nation or people because of their genetics or because they're simply not as well off because they're generally inferior you can shxt down my throat for it and it'd be well deserved.

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No one is inferior. And i really hate your way of thinking. It has a lot of prejudice undertone. My point is height is contributed to two things genetics and healthy diet. A person can have good hygiene and end up short.  So I dont understnad what you mean by sanitation. Are you implying that these so called underdeveloped countries are unclean? That would be racist and over gerneralization. Like i said there are countries in the world were people are average to tall height despite their poor economic upbringing. It only has been recently that asians are now taller. But back then asians were quite small. And they were not an underveloped country.

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I can't tell if it's your reading comprehension or if I really suck at conveying my thoughts, fxck me. Someone help me out, am I butchering my statements and examples? How do I help her understand how contradictory her posts are?