Quote from: Sweden on August 01, 2018, 05:04:36 AMAnyone with a brain can get $20.000 today. Anyone. Even people in third world.
you totally wrong about third world,when i was living in Russia i have got an experience that ur can make 20000$ but per year and if ur are lucky:)
Quote from: Bruce Wayne on August 01, 2018, 05:21:02 AMHere in the third world, if you earn $400/month, it'd be considered pretty good.
Also, you don't expect everyone to go to Sarin, do you? 😆
There are even cheaper options, but for $20.000 he can get his 5cm without financial worries.
It hasn’t anything to do with Dr Sarin.
@Sweden, I live in Europe and by the time I save $20k it'll be 3 years. Then there's the worry of needing more for any possible complication, and covering the CV gap with something. Also for $20k do you mean Russian doctor?
When you came back after ll did people finally realise what you've done or did you manage to get away with it, and how did the ladies respond with the new height?
you should become a rentboy, luxary rentboy.
i think u will get closer to LL that way than asking strangers on a forum to lend you their money.
Good luck
Tengo I can truly understand what you say.
Although I was 1.68 before LL and I was lucky to be with some beautiful girls who didn't have any problem with my height (and they were very good looking, much better than my current gf), still for the majority of women I was invisible.
And I was lucky to have great proportions, a good face and a fit body (not muscular like now).
But after LL things are much easier. Still many women don't like my height but at least 50% are completely ok with that (without even thinking about it as something not good) and men respect me as they do with every normal man. I am muscular which makes respect from men even easier but I truly believe that even with a normal body (not skinny though) I would still have no problem geting respect
Anyway, yes you need LL and it will change a lot. First of all on how you feel about yourself and secondly about how other see you. And these two things are connected.
With about 15k euros you could do LL with a good doctor like Solomin and stay for some months on Rusia.
With 20k you could do the same with Giotikas in Greece (without staying there though) .
If you can't save more than that then go to Rusia. Chances to have a good result are on your side. And do 6cm to reach more than 1.70 border. 6cm on tibias are safe and every cm more matters (when you are less than 1.80).
So, do the big step and change your life. I can assure you that things will be much better if you overcome the border of 1.70. Still you are going to have problems on dating but at least 1/3 of women will date you without thinking about your height.
For now I think that not more than 10% will be ok with an 1.65 man even if he is perfect in anything else.
I have been short all my life. I am NOT going to write that short stature does not have an impact on one's life; HOWEVER, most traits have an impact on one's life. Short, tall, fat, skinny, smart, stupid, lazy, energetic, optimistic, pessimistic--and on and on--all impact one's life.
If you think leg lengthening will improve your love life; then, you are sadly mistaken. Leg lengthening may cause a different population of persons to find you attractive; however, that population will not necessarily be larger or smaller than the current population that finds you attractive.
In my experience, many people will not find you attractive unless and until you become comfortable with who you are--it does not appear to me that you are comfortable with whatever good stuff you bring to a relationship and instead focus on what you perceive as a weakness; namely, your height.
If I was a woman and got the same vibe from you that you are sending out in your post, I wouldn't be attracted to you either. Rather than focus on your stature, I suggest you begin to honestly identify those traits you possess that you admire and value; then, begin to see yourself as someone with these genuinely valuable things to offer rather than as a guy shorted by the world. (Pun intended.)
Quote from: California on August 01, 2018, 03:25:35 PMI have been short all my life. I am NOT going to write that short stature does not have an impact on one's life; HOWEVER, most traits have an impact on one's life. Short, tall, fat, skinny, smart, stupid, lazy, energetic, optimistic, pessimistic--and on and on--all impact one's life.
If you think leg lengthening will improve your love life; then, you are sadly mistaken. Leg lengthening may cause a different population of persons to find you attractive; however, that population will not necessarily be larger or smaller than the current population that finds you attractive.
In my experience, many people will not find you attractive unless and until you become comfortable with who you are--it does not appear to me that you are comfortable with whatever good stuff you bring to a relationship and instead focus on what you perceive as a weakness; namely, your height.
If I was a woman and got the same vibe from you that you are sending out in your post, I wouldn't be attracted to you either. Rather than focus on your stature, I suggest you begin to honestly identify those traits you possess that you admire and value; then, begin to see yourself as someone with these genuinely valuable things to offer rather than as a guy shorted by the world. (Pun intended.)
Just stop. I've been told that stupid sh(it) all my life prior to LL. Its not true at all. Being short, in my pre and post LL experiences has a much bigger impact on your life than most of the other factors you mentioned. I would know because I was basically running on a self improvement treadmill and not getting anywhere.
There was nothing wrong with me before. I certainly didn't hate myself. However if you are short (and Indian/Asian), you are going to have a hard time having a normal, healthy relationship.
Sincerelly , i hate those stupid posts of people saying that LL os nota going to change anything in tour Life ir that the only thing You need yo be atractive is to be Happy with how hoy are and bla bla bla... Yes , You are 165cm taller and LL could change your Life , yes Girls dont find a 165cm man atractive as boys dont find atractive an obesse women , yes you Will be more respected buenas people if you ver taller , people Who says that this is not true are ignorants
"I am short; therefore, no one loves me". What self-pitying nonsense!
Many people reject truth when it applies to them. Why, because when you blame your dissatisfaction on something that is difficult to change; by doing so, you minimize your ability (or responsibility) to change.
You say to yourself, "Nobody finds me attractive because I am short." Then, you tell yourself, "but there is nothing I can do about being short so it is not my fault that nobody finds me attractive."
Odds are, far more people find you unattractive because you whine about your height when you could be a smart, successful, fun, energetic, thoughtful person who happens to be short, then do because of your height alone.
In any event, I wish you all the best.
Quote from: California on August 02, 2018, 02:51:31 PM"I am short; therefore, no one loves me". What self-pitying nonsense!
Many people reject truth when it applies to them. Why, because when you blame your dissatisfaction on something that is difficult to change; by doing so, you minimize your ability (or responsibility) to change.
You say to yourself, "Nobody finds me attractive because I am short." Then, you tell yourself, "but there is nothing I can do about being short so it is not my fault that nobody finds me attractive."
Odds are, far more people find you unattractive because you whine about your height when you could be a smart, successful, fun, energetic, thoughtful person who happens to be short, then do because of your height alone.
In any event, I wish you all the best.
How about that beta mindset TS has thinking he needs to spend money on his girl to keep her happy and sticking around. Bet he never thought that might be a problem or the root to other/more problems. It's easy to think oh, I'll just get this surgery and boom problem solved rather than asking the real questions and taking the time to really think things out. He'll get the surgery, get nowhere fast and continue to complain some more.
And for the virgins KrP1 and Purushrottam, if you are actually getting laid nowadays, is it really because you're taller, or you have more [a false sense of] confidence now because you're taller and finally got the balls to walk up to a woman and say something, probably very awkwardly. Sorry you two never had game when you felt shorter, you guys still probably don't have any judging by the way you guys post. LOL @Purushrottam, wtf do you know about having a normal, healthy relationship with your toxic, insecure way of thinking about relationships lol you've probably yet to even have one.
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