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Quote from: wants2growtaller on November 21, 2018, 02:51:43 PMI only want to do the CLL to not be a constant victim of heightism. But I dont believe there is anything wrong with being short. I dont buy into this idea of superiority or inferiority. I dont believe that its an attribute to feel superior than orders or inferior. These are just more signs of moral decay. We are so far removed from humanity. That we stigmatize people based on traits that they have no control over. Its just sad and pathetic. Its neither a sign of intelligence, maturity. Some of us may have ''grown'' in stature. But it seems the majority of us have yet to grown in humanity.

You need to practice what you preach if you truly believe in it.

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Quote from: wants2growtaller on November 21, 2018, 02:46:11 PMI really hate the classification of people saying 1st world to 3rd world countries. This isnt a personal attack on you. But one has to wonder why are human beings labelling and stigmatizine whole countries. We have this miscontrued idea of  countries.

The classification used here is just a tool or a means to make a distinction between countries around the world. I'm not sure what you mean by misconstrued, but if you're implying the average 3rd world country isn't mostly poor or struggling in comparison to a 2nd or 1st world country I'd say you're completely wrong here.
Quote from: wants2growtaller on November 21, 2018, 02:46:11 PMTo be honest poverty exists everywhere. I live in Canada. And we do have a lot of income inequality. It got so bad that the government wanted to enforce a universal income strategy to reduce the poverty in Canada. Secondly, I feel labelling countries is ignorant.

Are you saying Canada is on the same level as Africa or even middle eastern countries when it comes to poverty?
Quote from: wants2growtaller on November 21, 2018, 02:46:11 PMA lot of these so called 3rd countries,, were not born without natural resources. Their natural resources either got stolen from outside invaders. Or  is a combination of things. A comibnation of stolen natural resources,, war zones, political corruption and natural disasters. ANd no country is ever safe from natural disasters..at least not completely. I know that in this forum we talk alot about India. But India has a long history of colonialism. Where has contributed to the situations they have now. These so called first world countries. Are a result of imperialism, and colonialism. where outsiders invade and conquered their land. And the natural resources were stolen as wel. None of these nations we live in..we didnt earn any of it. Its just its wealth has been redistributed throughout thee world. But again these labels is what contributed to the vast inequality in our world.

How do these classifications make the world worse in anyway? It's simply a means of understanding the current state of a nation/country. Everything else is pretty much unrelated to the topic.
Quote from: wants2growtaller on November 21, 2018, 02:46:11 PMNone of this addresses anything in regards as to why we should or shouldn't keep labeling countries according to their current economic states.
The world really needs to start contibituing to his false social hierarchy. when has pride, arrogance, nariccsim, superiroty complex and inferiority complex become virtues?

None of this has anything to do with arrogance/narcissism/superiority or even virtues its simply a type of distinction. I'm not sure what you mean't by start contributing to this false social hierarchy, but if you meant to say stop contributing then I'd ask you what about this distinction or classification of countries is false?

Let's try applying your reasoning to another type of classification/label like classes of people. I really hate the label poor why do we even have this sort of distinction? Why do we stigmatize entire groups of people according to how much money they make? We have this misconception of classes... to be honest different classes of people exist everywhere around the world. Now I ask you how do we go about differentiating between poor-middle-rich? What would you use to properly label these groups?
I'd argue you're going at this from the wrong angle sure there might be a type of stigma with a country being called a 3rd world, but you have to realized this is just a type of label. Should I have said my diet was developing country tier? What kind of information would that actually convey? Would I be talking about Russia or Greenland?

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Are you saying Canada is on the same level as Africa or even middle eastern countries when it comes to poverty?

 First of all Africa is a continent not a country. Secondly there are countries in Africa that are more technologically advanced and economically developed than Canada. There are also countries in the middle east that are more developed than Canada. For instance Dubai, And before this whole catastrophe , countries like Libya, Iran, and Iraq were once very prominent successful nations. Saudi Arabia which is in the middle east is a very successful country.

Also why do we need to call them 1st 2nd or 3 world. Why not just call them by the name of the country.? We dont need to say those labels and place some kind of label on whole countries.

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Quote from: ThatGuy on November 21, 2018, 03:33:35 PMThe classification used here is just a tool or a means to make a distinction between countries around the world.  No the classification doesnt give the whole picture as to why the countries are the way they are. It unfairly judges whole nations. Labelling them as either superior or inferior without knowing the wholle story. There is no need for that. Again nothing wrong with just saying Canada, India, and Africa, that is their name and we should leave it at that. And instead of classifying these nations. without knowing anything about these coutrnies. We should seek to understand the history, present and future conditions. yes it does take time and effort to do that. But educating oneself eliminates any kind of pre judgement on thse nations.

Like I was saying before these so called poor countries did not become overnight. alot of these ''poor'' countires are result of centuries of colonization, imperialism warfar, genocide. As well as political corruption and natural disasters. If a country has gone through that much turmoil it would be very unfair, uncompassionate to just label them. Its the same thing whe people label us as black, or short,, etc. We can not kid ourself saying that labels often comes with often times negative biases. Especially when these biases are reinforced and based on very little information.

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Quote from: wants2growtaller on November 21, 2018, 09:05:46 PMAre you saying Canada is on the same level as Africa or even middle eastern countries when it comes to poverty?

 First of all Africa is a continent not a country. Secondly there are countries in Africa that are more technologically advanced and economically developed than Canada. There are also countries in the middle east that are more developed than Canada. For instance Dubai, And before this whole catastrophe , countries like Libya, Iran, and Iraq were once very prominent successful nations. Saudi Arabia which is in the middle east is a very successful country.

Also why do we need to call them 1st 2nd or 3 world. Why not just call them by the name of the country.? We dont need to say those labels and place some kind of label on whole countries.

I found this video very informative:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfnruW7yERA

I had no idea this continent was that big:
http://kai.sub.blue/en/africa.html

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Classification often cuases division. Like I said classification makes us focus more on difference, than similarities. Does wealth inequality exist? Of course it does. But instead of people labelling people as poor, middle class or rich. we should seek to understand why there is wealth inequality. By doing so we could decrease the gap of wealth inequality creating a more  ecnomically strong country.  But like I said classification can be bad especially when we dont take the time to understand.

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Label often hurt people. think of in regards to height. Yes there are tall, average and short people. But one of the reasons why a lot of us want to do CLL is becuase being short has been labelled as something that is negative.  And a lot of us has experience some form of  heightism. If we havent experience heightism directly we sure have internalized it. So how about we just stick to one label. HUMAN BEINGS.  is it idealistic. It sure is. But thats how change starts. Change starts with one idea at a time.

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Quote from: wants2growtaller on November 21, 2018, 09:05:46 PMAre you saying Canada is on the same level as Africa or even middle eastern countries when it comes to poverty?

 First of all Africa is a continent not a country. Secondly there are countries in Africa that are more technologically advanced and economically developed than Canada. There are also countries in the middle east that are more developed than Canada. For instance Dubai, And before this whole catastrophe , countries like Libya, Iran, and Iraq were once very prominent successful nations. Saudi Arabia which is in the middle east is a very successful country.

Also why do we need to call them 1st 2nd or 3 world. Why not just call them by the name of the country.? We dont need to say those labels and place some kind of label on whole countries.

Sorry I overlooked that typo I meant African countries not the entire continent of Africa. If the country I'm referring to is actually 3rd world is it not appropriate to call it such?

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Why dont  you just say the name of the actual country. And educate yourself on why that country has issues..including its history. And why do you NEEd to call a country by its condition instead of its proper name?

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Quote from: Ascending on November 21, 2018, 09:16:27 PMI found this video very informative:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfnruW7yERA

I had no idea this continent was that big:
http://kai.sub.blue/en/africa.html

I am very glad that you have some knowledge on the how big of a continent of africa and how rich it is and was in natural resources. The notion that Africa is underedeveloped and backwards is false. africa has always been rich with resources. But the problem is its wealth has been redistributed to outside invaders.