How tall is 6'1 / 6'2 185-188 to you?

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Quote from: ThatGuy on November 24, 2018, 07:46:36 PMWhat are the symptoms? Nvm, looked it up.
Bone/Back pain - I've had horrendous back pain growing up absolutely horrible 8/10 pains. The bones in my legs have been hurting like a mofo for the last decade.

Depression - I've had some really nasty depression as well for the majority of my life its been kinda meh recently, but its become more of an apathetic meh.

Often tired or fatigued - Being incredibly tired has become my norm and it only seems to be getting worse while my sleep is getting better.

Slow healing - I thought my crazy healing was from me working out and eating right, but it seems I just went from one extreme to another.

Muscle pain - I've had tons of this, but might've just been because I wasn't the most active kid back then.
  I caught quite a few infections back in puberty and I do have high blood pressure.

I'm also African American so we need more sun exposure on average anyway. You'd be surprised how horrible my parents were when it came to my nutrition and general needs. I got some testing done too and my doctor told me I was pretty deficient as well. My childhood was pretty horrible, my dad was abusive(I mean seriously abusive, throwing peeps down the stairs for pissing the bed tier abusive.) and my mom was pretty neglectful, but I don't blame her tho she tried her best even when things seemed hopeless.

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That could be true. Just be sure you don't get locked into those thoughts. You can't change the past; you can change your future.

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Quote from: myloginacc on November 24, 2018, 08:23:26 PMThat could be true. Just be sure you don't get locked into those thoughts. You can't change the past; you can change the future.

I'm passed most of this, when I was younger I was always pretty laid back even when things were going to hell. It must've been 2-3 years ago that everything kinda hit me pretty hard and it almost completely swallowed me whole. I'm just glad to be back to my meh days.

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I think 6'1 is fine and at the upper end of desirable height for me.  I note that guys about 6'1 are often over estimated as 6'4.  But 6'4 is really tall - a colleague of mine is 6'4 and he drives a Van with the seats pushed way back.  He can't drive normal cars and traveling by air is really uncomfortable - both getting in and out of the plane, and sitting during the ride with legs cramped for the entire journey.  He is also constantly bumping his forehead getting through doors and needs a bed extension.  Being really tall becomes impractical and I think 6'1 is a good upper limit.  I note that even the dutch have stopped growing with an average height converging at 184cm (6ft).

https://www.nature.com/articles/pr2012189

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Quote from: ThatGuy on November 24, 2018, 07:46:36 PMWhat are the symptoms? Nvm, looked it up.
Bone/Back pain - I've had horrendous back pain growing up absolutely horrible 8/10 pains. The bones in my legs have been hurting like a mofo for the last decade.

Depression - I've had some really nasty depression as well for the majority of my life its been kinda meh recently, but its become more of an apathetic meh.

Often tired or fatigued - Being incredibly tired has become my norm and it only seems to be getting worse while my sleep is getting better.

Slow healing - I thought my crazy healing was from me working out and eating right, but it seems I just went from one extreme to another.

Muscle pain - I've had tons of this, but might've just been because I wasn't the most active kid back then.
 
I've caught quite a few infections back in puberty and I do have high blood pressure. I'm also African American so we need more sun exposure on average anyway. You'd be surprised how horrible my parents were when it came to my nutrition and general needs. I got some testing done too and my doctor told me I was pretty deficient as well. My childhood was pretty horrible, my dad was abusive(I mean seriously abusive, throwing peeps down the stairs for pissing the bed tier abusive.) and my mom was pretty neglectful, but I don't blame her tho she tried her best even when things seemed hopeless.

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then how do u think that can fixed by cll lol

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I fixed most of these by changing my habits and improving my diet. I'm also okay with meh being my norm and I'll figure out the rest later. I never even considered CLL/LL when it came to fixing any of these issues. I just want LL to be a bigger dude while still being the best version of myself. The only difference is I'll be 10-11cm taller. Hopefully I won't experience any nasty side effects from the procedure and I can move on with my life. Now that I think about it I was probably enjoying life the most when I was going hard with my lifting about 1-2 year ago and I was mostly pain free.

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gl with tht. i hope u can recompensate for the damage in ur early years. tho after cll height thing might be solved but there so much more than that. we stil need hardwork and dedication to bulk and cut and fix alot of crazy  s going on

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its not tall at all 6'3" is the start of tall for men 6'2" is borderline tall/notably above average/tallish 6'1" above average/very high average/ semi tall

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even in the us thats not considered tall let alone very tall never heard that for someone below 6'2" maybe in asia thats why 6'1" is an attractive height because its above average/tallish without being tall or intimidating like 6'3"+

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Way tall enough to not be on this god damn forum!

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In my country Germany there are many guys 6'2 or 6'3. Especially the younger Generation.

I dont know what to do. LL is crazy