Is this forum really full of mentally freaks?

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Quote from: Taller on November 11, 2014, 10:05:24 PMHow were you even stunted? Chances are you weren't actually stunted, you just ended up shorter than you hoped. That's what happened to me. I am 6-9CM shorter than my father. I didn't sleep as much as I could have and didn't always eat three meals a day growing up (bad personal choice), but, in the grand scheme of things, that probably didn't affect nearly as much as genes did. It doesn't matter at this point though. You're shorter than you hoped and either you'll change it via LL or you'll accept it.

Even if you were stunted, you can't change the past, and asking yourself "what if?" will only drive you crazy.

You don't need to justify your LL to everyone either. It's a personal choice, and people can offer their opinions on it, but they should not judge you for it. There is a fine but important line between these two behaviors!

Well actually it all adds up. Yes it is %80 genes but you could easily be at least "1-3" taller if you eat right which I didn't do. My diet was lacking in vegetables and body was stuffed with pills which will do horrible things to your body. It's the sad truth but I'm a size 14 shoe and my growth slowed down tremendously at 13 where I was given medication. Is that a coincidence? I don't think so!
There's no such thing as one in my world. So it was my parents poor parenting not guiding through what I need to eat and solving my anger and depressions issues with medication instead of proper nutrition. So if I was given a 2nd chance to be in my teens again with all this knowledge I would use it and be a taller person. It may not have made me that much taller but it sure would be worth it instead of going to Russia or whatever country for 4-6 months!

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hahaha, i love it!!

yeah im definately insane and out of my mind! I'm what people consider "a freak" and i embrace it!

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Some people on the LL forums are a little out there, and some are sane but have some warped views. Because of this I expected several crazy people getting LL with Paley. However the vast majority were very sane and friendly. I think those who go with higher end dr.'s will on average be more together than the truly desperate people who go for cheaper dr.'s.

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Quote from: programdude on November 14, 2014, 09:51:03 PMSome people on the LL forums are a little out there, and some are sane but have some warped views. Because of this I expected several crazy people getting LL with Paley. However the vast majority were very sane and friendly. I think those who go with higher end dr.'s will on average be more together than the truly desperate people who go for cheaper dr.'s.

I think the reason why people go with cheaper doctors is because most of the people here are in thier 20s and can't afford the high end doctors. It's got nothing to do with sanity.

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Quote from: Ajax2thousand20 on November 15, 2014, 05:55:38 AMI think the reason why people go with cheaper doctors is because most of the people here are in thier 20s and can't afford the high end doctors. It's got nothing to do with sanity.

That is the case for me. Or maybe I'm just insane and not completely aware of it I'm young and trying to pay for college while saving for LL simultaneously. Definitely not an ideal situation. I'm very grateful that there are well qualified low-cost doctors who seem capable of doing quite a good job with the LL surgery.

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^ Who would you say are the good cheap ones?

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Quote from: Ajax2thousand20 on November 15, 2014, 05:55:38 AMI think the reason why people go with cheaper doctors is because most of the people here are in thier 20s and can't afford the high end doctors. It's got nothing to do with sanity.

Thats not my point. My point was on average being more together than those who go to a cheaper doctor.

Those who have the luxury to afford a higher cost dr. aren't going to be as desperately caught up on the matter of height, since affording it wasn't as much of a struggle, whereas many you see on the forums and who ultimately go with cheaper dr.'s are more exasperated about the entire process and in some cases might know they'll never actually be able to afford it.

Someone who either knows they are stuck at a height they find undesirable for life, or who has to wait awhile to fix it and obsesses over it in the meantime before going to a doctor they know is not ideal, and potentially being anxious about complications of their decision is likelier to be A. More strung out/stressed B. More obsessed with the issue of height C. More bitter about the whole situation since it was much harder for them to resolve.

Whereas those who go to a wealthier dr. tend to have had the money for the surgery and then some, and were able to hop into things much sooner after height neurosis became a problem for them. I know personally the fact I was able to go from developing some neurosis, to discovering the surgery, and getting it done in a very small period of time was much mentally healthier than harping on it for years.

Its not that the decision to go to a cheap dr. makes you crazy, its that the mental state created by zero or very limited options can make you crazy.

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Quote from: programdude on November 15, 2014, 02:49:49 PMThats not my point. My point was on average being more together than those who go to a cheaper doctor.

Those who have the luxury to afford a higher cost dr. aren't going to be as desperately caught up on the matter of height, since affording it wasn't as much of a struggle, whereas many you see on the forums and who ultimately go with cheaper dr.'s are more exasperated about the entire process and in some cases might know they'll never actually be able to afford it.

Someone who either knows they are stuck at a height they find undesirable for life, or who has to wait awhile to fix it and obsesses over it in the meantime before going to a doctor they know is not ideal, and potentially being anxious about complications of their decision is likelier to be A. More strung out/stressed B. More obsessed with the issue of height C. More bitter about the whole situation since it was much harder for them to resolve.

Whereas those who go to a wealthier dr. tend to have had the money for the surgery and then some, and were able to hop into things much sooner after height neurosis became a problem for them. I know personally the fact I was able to go from developing some neurosis, to discovering the surgery, and getting it done in a very small period of time was much mentally healthier than harping on it for years.

Its not that the decision to go to a cheap dr. makes you crazy, its that the mental state created by zero or very limited options can make you crazy.

stop talking bull  or convincing urself

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Quote from: programdude on November 15, 2014, 02:49:49 PMThats not my point. My point was on average being more together than those who go to a cheaper doctor.

Those who have the luxury to afford a higher cost dr. aren't going to be as desperately caught up on the matter of height, since affording it wasn't as much of a struggle, whereas many you see on the forums and who ultimately go with cheaper dr.'s are more exasperated about the entire process and in some cases might know they'll never actually be able to afford it.

Someone who either knows they are stuck at a height they find undesirable for life, or who has to wait awhile to fix it and obsesses over it in the meantime before going to a doctor they know is not ideal, and potentially being anxious about complications of their decision is likelier to be A. More strung out/stressed B. More obsessed with the issue of height C. More bitter about the whole situation since it was much harder for them to resolve.

Whereas those who go to a wealthier dr. tend to have had the money for the surgery and then some, and were able to hop into things much sooner after height neurosis became a problem for them. I know personally the fact I was able to go from developing some neurosis, to discovering the surgery, and getting it done in a very small period of time was much mentally healthier than harping on it for years.

Its not that the decision to go to a cheap dr. makes you crazy, its that the mental state created by zero or very limited options can make you crazy.

From what you have said, wouldn't it mean that people who undergo LL with Dr.Paley be more "crazy" because it would've taken them many years to save up for Paley, adding years of frustration together with the existing height neurosis? We shouldn't ignore the fact people can also have mental issues regardless of whether they can afford expensive doctors.
On the contrary, people who go to cheaper doctors fix their problem much earlier rather than waiting to save up for Paley, Guichet,Rozbruch etc....Some people that can afford top end doctors may end up having surgery with cheaper alternatives in order to save money.
If you read some of the patient diaries from top end doctors, I'm pretty sure you will be able to tell how insane they are lol. Therefore I simply don't believe that crazy people are most likely going to end up with cheaper doctors.

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Quote from: programdude on November 15, 2014, 02:49:49 PMThats not my point. My point was on average being more together than those who go to a cheaper doctor.

Those who have the luxury to afford a higher cost dr. aren't going to be as desperately caught up on the matter of height, since affording it wasn't as much of a struggle, whereas many you see on the forums and who ultimately go with cheaper dr.'s are more exasperated about the entire process and in some cases might know they'll never actually be able to afford it.

Someone who either knows they are stuck at a height they find undesirable for life, or who has to wait awhile to fix it and obsesses over it in the meantime before going to a doctor they know is not ideal, and potentially being anxious about complications of their decision is likelier to be A. More strung out/stressed B. More obsessed with the issue of height C. More bitter about the whole situation since it was much harder for them to resolve.

Whereas those who go to a wealthier dr. tend to have had the money for the surgery and then some, and were able to hop into things much sooner after height neurosis became a problem for them. I know personally the fact I was able to go from developing some neurosis, to discovering the surgery, and getting it done in a very small period of time was much mentally healthier than harping on it for years.

Its not that the decision to go to a cheap dr. makes you crazy, its that the mental state created by zero or very limited options can make you crazy.

I completely disagree.