Long legs, where do you draw the line?

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Quote from: NewHeights on April 20, 2015, 07:25:27 PMthe average ape index is +9 CM

u wot m8

It's +2 cm.

Also, lengthening both humerus and forearms is possible, so it shouldn't stop someone who is really determined. I say generally you don't bother about torso nor arm proportions when lengthening just one segment (though you can screw segmental proportions), but when doing two segments and over 10 cms you'll have to get your arms lengthened, unless they were long in the first place, meaning you had a high positive ape index like 8+ something.

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Quote from: NewHeights on April 20, 2015, 07:25:27 PM :'(I don't think anyone has actually attempted to directly answer the question: "long legs, where do you draw the line?", so I'll throw in my two cents in a formulaic manner:

1. Do not exceed a 50% cycling inseam to height ratio (the average is around 46.5%)
2. Do not exceed a -2 inch ape index (the average ape index is +9 CM,)


That's where you draw the line IMO, as you will most likely stay in the realm of normalcy if you follow those general guidelines.

Tell that too mathew mconaghue he has the wingspan of someone 5'7-9 to his 5'11 height.

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Quote from: exclide on April 20, 2015, 07:36:06 PMu wot m8

It's +2 cm.

Also, lengthening both humerus and forearms is possible, so it shouldn't stop someone who is really determined. I say generaly you don't bother about torso nor arm proportions when lengthening just one segment (though you can screw segmental proportions), but when doing two segments and over 10 cms you'll have to get your arms lengthened, unless they were long in the first place, meaning you had a high positive ape index like 8+ something.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2700438/

Check out pages 4 and 21. It also says that armspan exceeds height in 98% of subjects, so -2 inch ape index is really pushing it already

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Quote from: Melan_sprint on April 20, 2015, 07:36:25 PM
Tell that too mathew mconaghue he has the wingspan of someone 5'7-9 to his 5'11 height.

And it´s quit obvious
Do you really think it´s pure chance that he is so often depicted with his arms crossed? 

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I used to be the biggest arm length nazi because I have short arms but now I have kind of changed my mind. Yes it's important, -if you do more than 9-10CM otherwise it usually isn't that big of a deal in my opinion, leg length is a bigger hindrance for many.

Although I might just be biased toward that conclusion but I honestly can't see that much wrong with my arms even after 8CM. Also never noticed matthews arms until someone on the internet pointed it out.

That said it should be possible to gain about 3CM on both arms but of course the humerus to forearm proportions are also important. Bottom line is: no LL patient will look completely normal post-op the important thing is that the proportions look good or at the very least okay.

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Quote from: NewHeights on April 20, 2015, 07:40:21 PM
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2700438/

Check out pages 4 and 21. It also says that armspan exceeds height in 98% of subjects, so -2 inch ape index is really pushing it already

u wot m8?

http://www.medsci.cn/SCI/show_paper.asp?id=2e544896588
QuoteThe results have shown that male Serbians are 181.96 +/- 6.74 cm tall and have an arm span of 184.78 +/- 8.41 cm

http://www.ijpp.com/IJPP%20archives/2000_44_3/329-334.pdf
QuoteArm span exceeded height in 82.6% subjects

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7491733?dopt=Abstract


Must be good news for you, brotherman.

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Also, not to beat a dead horse, but short arms are in my opinion less of a problem than (too) long legs. Hasn't these two actors become sex symbols, and aren't their arms noticeably short for their height?

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Quote from: exclide on April 20, 2015, 07:58:23 PMu wot m8?

http://www.medsci.cn/SCI/show_paper.asp?id=2e544896588http://www.ijpp.com/IJPP%20archives/2000_44_3/329-334.pdfhttp://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7491733?dopt=Abstract


Must be good news for you, brotherman.

Thank you for the additional data my friend. There are a range of reported statistics, from 1.02 ape index to 1.05, but I tend to be on the conservative side when I view these statistics

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Quote from: NewHeights on April 20, 2015, 08:05:51 PMThank you for the additional data my friend. There are a range of reported statistics, from 1.02 ape index to 1.05, but I tend to be on the conservative side when I view these statistics

NP the average ape index is no more than 2-3 cm for white males.

http://www.drustvo-antropologov.si/AN/PDF/2012_2/Anthropological_Notebooks_XVIII_2_Bjelica.pdf
QuoteThe results have shown that male Montenegrins are 183.21±7.06 centimetres
tall and have an arm span of 185.71±8.17 centimetres

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Quote from: Alittletooshort on April 20, 2015, 07:45:52 PMAnd it´s quit obvious
Do you really think it´s pure chance that he is so often depicted with his arms crossed?

Thats why he his wife is smoking hot and he has been living the life we all want to live, recently won a oscar, not saying that is a meassure of success but his arms clearly hasnt hindered him. He is a cool dude.