Make Me Taller - Why We Lost Trust and Left

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Quote from: Kilokahn on September 24, 2013, 07:27:33 PM
As far as Sysop/Apotheosis is concerned, that guy has always been a huge bull ter. Look back on that 20/20 special where Apotheosis advertised old forum  to the world. He goes on old forum  and makes the procedure look as easy as getting taller with "just a click", yet he was likely walking with a cane or on crutches when he was interviewed. Then he says how his dating life has gotten loads better since getting the operation. Really? I call bs on that one too. He had two operations, meaning the recovery time from each op has to be at least a year, needs prosthetic devices, 24-hour nurses, medications, assistance to use the restroom - all not covered by insurance - the guy likely spent at least $250,000 for all this. Where does all that money come from? Well, he's making most of it back and then some by getting a cut from what people pay to go to his recommended doctors.

If he really did lengthen both segments for a total of 8 inches - and who's to say how much he really did lengthen judging from how much the guy has conned people - then he is no doubt living with very negative physical repercussions.  I'm not convinced that he will ever get back to his prior strength and that he doesn't/won't have major side effects on his blood vessels and nerves, not to mention the huge disparity in the length of his torso with the length of his legs. He's likely living with a ton of problems and is not likely to admit that he made a mistake lengthening that much.

Agreed.  It's ironic that Apotheosis and Crazy6 have turned old forum  to what it is nowadays.  Look at Tall, another patient who lengthen so much and is blatantly advertising Dr M all over his signature. No special relationship?  Yea right.

There seems to be a pattern here... maybe it's the psychological effect of lengthening so much?  It like these people can't move on with their lives and are still stuck in the LL bubble.  They don't come off as happier.  Look at Sysop/Apotheosis, he's like always on the forum all day,  doesn't he have a job or social life?   

As far as dating goes, there's alot of myth on old forum  that height increase means getting laid.  Haha.  Very overrated. 

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CRAZY 6 and sysop are making money by old forum  .now they are partners with dr. sringari

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If Christian had been upfront about the fact he wants to sell good products (and he could reasonably vouch for the internals he personally had done to himself) , I would be completely onboard with that.

I would even look into it personally, even though it would be too pricy for me.

He uses the old forum  site as some kind of personal wealth tool instead of trying to help us. The idea of banning anyone and everyone who 'cuts his grass' to me is myopic and childish. It crosses a line of ridiculous.

He obviously knows nothing about how business relationships work. He burns all his bridges.

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Hey guys, just wanted to let everyone know that everything Daemon has posted is accurate to the best of my knowledge. Glad someone decided to make and moderate an alternative to old forum , this is something that myself and captain and stewarthayes had been talking since we learned how corrupt Sysop was.

Gj Daemon.

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We are just getting started buddy. We are going to snag all of the patient diaries from old forum  and copy the forum outlay.

But instead we are going to have a 'hands off' approach to the diaries. We can have a complaints section where guys can rant all they want if they back it up with personal experience.

We have no desire to steer anyone anywhere. We are short guys who want to have a safe surgery at a reasonable price.

 

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old forum  has the right to the posts. We arent stealing the posts. We are COPYING them. The words belong to old forum . The actual concepts and thoughts belong to the patient and to anyone who reads it.

The patient could sue if we tried to SELL it and we made a profit which of course we would never do. We arent sysop .

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All the power to you orlandoflorida. 

If they are your posts, you can ask for them to be taken down.

I am talking about someone like me who has no diary. I dont think sysop has any legal right of financial compensation if I copy the diaries to be used here. Only the patient like yourself could complain.

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Those diaries are the intellectual property of the authors - it's their life they're writing about. In order to copyright something, you have to physically contact your local copyright office an officially copyright them - something SysOp obviously didn't do because I doubt they'd let him, you would need the permission of the authors to copyright them and that obviously didn't happen.

SysOp seems to think that they're copyrighted automatically because he's the owner of the site and everything posted on it belongs to him. That's not how copyright works and that's not how the internet works, either. He also seems to think that American law applies to international issues, which it doesn't, though, a lot of Americans seems to have the same mentality.

There's basically fúck-all SysOp can do about us copying the diaries. I wanted to tell him this outright on his forum, but I fear the banhammer will strike me down. Not to worry, I have several accounts on old forum  

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I'm glad I was able to find this forum. I stopped posting on old forum  recently because sysop is incredibly shady. He's obviously making money from these doctors. Why else would someone buy a forum? Is he doing it out of the goodness of his heart? No.
The site doesn't even have ads, so it can only make money through advertising doctors. This means that sysop and his gang have an incentive to distort the truth about some of these hack doctors. What a sick and twisted  . Now I'm doubting whether I'll ever get this surgery...everything I've read on old forum  these last couple years just aren't trustworthy and I'm really sad.

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Quote from: threenoted on September 30, 2013, 03:52:44 AMI'm glad I was able to find this forum. I stopped posting on old forum  recently because sysop is incredibly shady. He's obviously making money from these doctors. Why else would someone buy a forum? Is he doing it out of the goodness of his heart? No.
The site doesn't even have ads, so it can only make money through advertising doctors. This means that sysop and his gang have an incentive to distort the truth about some of these hack doctors. What a sick and twisted  . Now I'm doubting whether I'll ever get this surgery...everything I've read on old forum  these last couple years just aren't trustworthy and I'm really sad.

Don't let those jerks bug you with their crazy antics.  There have been successful surgeries way before SysOpotheosis took over.  His problem is his greed and misdirections of advice to many members.  Members here have enough knowledge and research to carryout in finding good and competent surgeons who can fulfill many of our dreams.