I also remember reading LL ForumorLife (current patient of Doctor Sringari) was desperately openly asking for sponsorship for his limb lengthening surgery back in Middle of July, the thread title was
"Can anyone sponsor my LL surgery with Dr. Sarin" and he posted that "Hey can anyone sponsor my LL surgery with Dr. Sarin I am only $4000 short"
Since Dr Sarin price increase was only announced in late July, that mean he was $4000 short of the previous price of $15000.
One month later, he is paying for surgery with Dr Sringari which also cost $15000. Btw, the average yearly income of a Indian person is around $1000 USD. That would mean like he was able to raise alot of money relatively speaking for an Indian in just one month.
His first diary post "First of all I owe a lot to SysOp as he referred me to Dr. Sringari and without SysOp this wouldn't have been possible."
Interesting stuff, considering all the stuff that we now know about Sringari and Sysop/Apotheosis.
Quote from: silverbilly on September 23, 2013, 04:21:10 PMi just want to mention 1 thing .... the photo on phantoms diary on page 3 is the exact same one i saw in in Crazy+6 diary. i didn't want to mention anything on old forum but theres definitely some legitimacy in your post and i thank you for that.
your not a snitch for sarin thats for sure ... so i wish u luck with the forum
HAHA!!! Maybe someone is posting pictures of old patients from Dr Sarin =D
OMG!! It could be. Bc Dr Sarin used those frames before and frankly - WHY is EVERYTHING exactly the same as it was in the guesthouse of Dr Sarin when I was there? Come on, EVEN THE PAINTINGS ON THE WALL??!!
That's just hilarious!!
Im not saying it's like that but it sure is suspicious!
nai10 posted on old forum about Apotheosis/Sysop and it was then deleted. Quite a few people saw the post too. I have attached screenshot below.
I am starting to wonder about Gladitator2012, he seem to be in every post defending Apotheosis/Sysop. Maybe he is a worker of Dr Sringari (perhaps Harry or Sunny) that could explain why. Attached a screenshot of his latest post, which is definitely laughable. Talking about clones, impartiality. ethical responsibility when Crazy6/Phantom and Apotheosis/Sysop are running old forum ....Wtf, Lol.
I have been reading this forum as guest and my question is same.
When this forum is created in the name of:-
1) Ethics
2) No censorship
3) No lies
4) No hidden things
then why Dameon is copying diary of Captain America without his knowledge 
On one side you are creating topics for hating Dr. Sarin with the help of old/existing patient and other side you are asking Sarin's patients to write diary here and reestablish Sarin in market ? why ?
I mean what the hell is going on ? Why aren't we in one stand that Dr. Sarin is not a good doctor.
Replied In : http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=7.msg100#msg100
Hey randy28, welcome to the forum, please read all posts thoroughly. I will answer your questions right here.
1) The forum is created with several ethos, which are quite different from what you have listed, they are actually
- Patient's Well Being
- Community Driven
- Quality Of Information
- Free Of Censorship
I will further expand on these in a future post.
2) Captain America diary was deleted from old forum by Sysop/Apotheosis along with almost all Sarin related diaries except for Crazy/Sweden. That's why I republish them as they provide information about limb lengthening but are no longer available.
3) I am neutral about doctors, that's why you can see both good and bad things about doctors. The forum allows people to express a wide range of honest opinions and thoughts.
I certainly welcome posts by legit patients of every doctor, the forum is here to for them to share information and let both sides of the story be told, instead of an egoist dictator deleting topics and silencing people.
After all, what's the point of a community forum if members are afraid to discuss openly and resort to self censorship ? Are we in North Korea or something? Nope.
I also mentioned that there will be no official recommended doctors list, this is to prevent any form of bias or financial deals. Plus a recommended list also encourage lazy decision making.
4) Personally I'm an advocate of meeting multiple doctors and their patients in person as a key aspect of the decision making process, much more than reading things on the internet. Do not make decisions solely based on what you read online as this is a risky surgery. I have written about it in 'How To Choose A Limb Lengthening Doctor - A Simple No Frills Guide'
Anyone who is serious about limb lengthening surgery must understand that it cost alot of time, money and pain, do yourself a favor and be an responsible adult. Get off the computer and book flights to check things out in person before committing to anything.
Ultimately people should be allowed to make up their own minds as independent adults, not have one patient (Apotheosis) decide what's right and what's wrong for everyone. Especially when this person has motives related to finance and not well-being of others.
Quote from: orlandoflorida on September 23, 2013, 10:50:58 PMI also remember reading LL ForumorLife (current patient of Doctor Sringari) was desperately openly asking for sponsorship for his limb lengthening surgery back in Middle of July, the thread title was
"Can anyone sponsor my LL surgery with Dr. Sarin" and he posted that "Hey can anyone sponsor my LL surgery with Dr. Sarin I am only $4000 short"
Since Dr Sarin price increase was only announced in late July, that mean he was $4000 short of the previous price of $15000.
One month later, he is paying for surgery with Dr Sringari which also cost $15000. Btw, the average yearly income of a Indian person is around $1000 USD. That would mean like he was able to raise alot of money relatively speaking for an Indian in just one month.
His first diary post "First of all I owe a lot to SysOp as he referred me to Dr. Sringari and without SysOp this wouldn't have been possible."
Interesting stuff, considering all the stuff that we now know about Sringari and Sysop/Apotheosis.
LL ForumorLife was the guinea pig patient for Sringari. I believe he was the first real patient diary. He probably had a deal with Sringari to have the surgery even though we was $5000 short, as long as he promoted him on old forum (similar to what Crazy+6 did to promote Sarin in the beginning). I remember this LL ForumorLife kid threatening to kill himself on old forum if somebody didn't sponsor him so that he can have LL...Definitely an easy target for a doctor to prey on
Quote from: DEM on September 24, 2013, 02:45:39 PMQuote from: orlandoflorida on September 23, 2013, 10:50:58 PMI also remember reading LL ForumorLife (current patient of Doctor Sringari) was desperately openly asking for sponsorship for his limb lengthening surgery back in Middle of July, the thread title was
"Can anyone sponsor my LL surgery with Dr. Sarin" and he posted that "Hey can anyone sponsor my LL surgery with Dr. Sarin I am only $4000 short"
Since Dr Sarin price increase was only announced in late July, that mean he was $4000 short of the previous price of $15000.
One month later, he is paying for surgery with Dr Sringari which also cost $15000. Btw, the average yearly income of a Indian person is around $1000 USD. That would mean like he was able to raise alot of money relatively speaking for an Indian in just one month.
His first diary post "First of all I owe a lot to SysOp as he referred me to Dr. Sringari and without SysOp this wouldn't have been possible."
Interesting stuff, considering all the stuff that we now know about Sringari and Sysop/Apotheosis.
LL ForumorLife was the guinea pig patient for Sringari. I believe he was the first real patient diary. He probably had a deal with Sringari to have the surgery even though we was $5000 short, as long as he promoted him on old forum (similar to what Crazy+6 did to promote Sarin in the beginning). I remember this LL ForumorLife kid threatening to kill himself on old forum if somebody didn't sponsor him so that he can have LL...Definitely an easy target for a doctor to prey on
Someone asked LL ForumorLife was he threatening to kill himself and he said he wasn't. He just has a bad way with words because it's not his native language. I believe it was SysOp who took advantage the situation to use him as a guinea pig.
hahahaha NOW IT ALL MAKES SENSE ..... i remember LL ForumorLife he came on old forum asking people for money so he can do the surgery(gave some sad story about how his mother only has $10000 or something).
SSOOOOOO this is the guy SysOp chose for his experiment .. LOL
honestly i have to give Sysop a pass here ... if that guy was desperate i think he actually might have helped him out .... but what NOT cool is SysOp deleted all his posts ...i remember responding to him and now i can't find any of his post.
dude just be honest .... do you know what the meaning of "CONFLICT OF INTEREST IS" ?? ... yeh you deserve a medal for promoting LL but didnt you say in the past that you never made a cent from old forum ... thats not honesty ... personally i dont care if you make a million dollars from old forum ... as long as your honest .... SysOp in you latest thread you ask "What is your argument?"
"CONFLICT OF INTEREST IS" ... is my argument ... what you did in that phantom thread is 100% deceit ... address that bud.
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Exactly! Sysop/Apotheosis said he never make any money off old forum and all that crap. Turn out it was all lies, what a scumbag.
Now Apotheosis is recommending people to unqualified doctors so he and the doctor can profit financially ? Seriously? Playing with people's long term ability to walk with their legs?
Just to clear any doubts about what LL Forumorlife posted, I've attached the screenshot below. Btw, I realized that guest members cannot see attached screenshots. Guess that's a special right of registered members, good idea in my opinion.
It's likely Apotheosis-Sysop is the guy behind the 'sponsorship', as he was given special thanks.
It make me laugh when diary of patients start to make LL seem like a fun holiday process, you know when they start posting alot of smiley faces, talk about parties and post pictures of gym workout ? Can't teach old dog new tricks as they say.
Take everything LL ForumorLife writes with a huge pinch of salt.
Good news folks, Dr Sringari is gonna be on the "recommended doctor list" soon, SOMEHOW I can see this happening. LOL.
Quote from: An_Apple_A_Day on September 23, 2013, 08:44:07 PMQuote from: krin0610 on September 23, 2013, 04:11:38 PMQuote from: An_Apple_A_Day on September 22, 2013, 02:52:29 PMThe only constant thing I keep seeing is that Sarin cannot be trusted. It is almost as if this forum is confused. On the one hand people are saying that old forum is deleting any reference to Sarin and this is wrong. Then you have a whole topic and posts dedicated to Sarin disasters with total knee replacements being required and no one recovering from him and he has been making threats, etc.
I think we really need to make up our minds here. If the stuff about Sarin is true, then in many ways what SysOp did is correct by removing any reference to him and preventing people from choosing him. On the flip side however, if what is written about Sarin on LL Forum is false and he is actually a good doctor, then this site itself has false information. I mean what the hell is going on?
The only true truth is that Sypsop is editing posts on old forum and using fake accounts for this. Furthermore, Sysop was also using some genuine accounts - especially Dr sarin's patient accounts and was posting wrong/fake stories. Thus, you will only read comments/posts that he wants you to read for his own financial gain ... I know what I am talking about cause Sypsop amended some of my posts to reflect his line of thoughts and when I questioned him, I got banned and my post ultimately got deleted.
With regards to LL Forum and Dr Sarin, I can only say that I am currently a Dr Sarin's patient who has no interest in promoting Dr sarin (by the way, I was among the ones who used to complain about conditions in Dr Sarin's guest-house). Conditions in the guest-house have since significantly improved ... Concerning the medical side or Dr Sarin's skills, I think people should be honest and acknowledged that Dr Sarin is a very experienced and qualified doctor although he might appear sometimes careless ... let me explain: Dr Sarin, due to his experience & knowledge, tend sometimes to use the phrase "it's normal or it's OK" without further explanation ... I guess this is because from experience, he knows that there is nothing to worry about ... but what he forgot is that for patients, all these are new. On the other hand, I also I have to say that Dr Sarin is always available on Whatsapp for example and always reply instantly when a medical concern is brought to his attention.
I have been in the guest-house for just over 2 months and I have seen 3 patients (Americans) going back home walking ... of course not walking fully recovered as they were just like 5,6,7 months post surgery (not post frame removal).
Now, it's down to individual really to make up their mind ...
So what do you think of the posts here about Sarin?
I thought I expressed my opinion about this in the second paragraph of my post "With regards to LL Forum and Dr Sarin ...".
Anyway, let me address some specific posts about Dr Sarin:
Quote from: Dameon on September 22, 2013, 03:08:26 PMSarin is a unprofessional doctor, he has threaten patients indirectly, brush off their concerns and alot of complications with his patients are not reported. This was mentioned in the first post if you read it carefully again.
Personally, I have never been threaten in any ways by Dr Sarin, nor have I ever heard someone complaining to have been threaten. As I said in my post, I am among patients who were always complaining when things were not going well in the new Dr sarin's guest-house ... On the medical side, I even posted on old forum a comment in relation to the "it's OK, it's normal" attitude and never this was subject to a threat and I have always been treated with absolute dignity.
You can also read plenty other posts on old forum from Dr sarin patients complaining about some careless situations like the malaria case or the bending frame etc etc. These patients were here with us and they had everything in their room including TV with Sat Box for international channels (just like me now). The account of one of these patients was ultimately used (hijacked) by Sysop to give very bad feedback about Dr Sarin (Sysop knew that people will believe because that patient used to be truthful in his posts) but it turned out that, that last post was not from the patient himself and that patient (who has now left the guest-house walking and happy of his surgery and recovery) was very upset with Sysop since the patient felt like he had been manipulated by Sysop throughout all this time.
The other example is my current room-mate who wrote around 2 months ago a very honest post about Dr sarin's new guest-house conditions (where he pointed some careless attitude) on old forum ... The funny thing is that Dr sarin once, came to our room to directly address some concerns that this boy (20 old) had as he wanted to speak to his parents using the internet but the connection was not stable ... Dr sarin personally intervened and today in our room, we have not only a very good internet connection, but also a large TV with international channels where I can watch all European major soccer leagues, a stable air con, an automated electric generator etc etc.
So to conclude, I don't believe in the theory of Dr Sarin "threaten patients indirectly". However, and this is probably common sense, People will probably tend not to post anything too negative about the doctor while they are still in frames for fear that the doctor will not like them and do a careless job on them. This is just patients using common sense to watch out for themselves but we have plenty proofs on old forum that Dr Sarin patients were also posting unpleasant experiences when they were happening.
Finally as I said, I have no motivation whatsoever in promoting or discrediting Dr Sarin ... I have been honest and I believe that it's down to each individual to carry out proper investigation before making up their mind!
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