Make Me Taller - Why We Lost Trust and Left

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Quote from: FrankGarrett on September 20, 2013, 11:09:04 PMQuote from: Kilokahn on September 20, 2013, 08:00:06 PMQuote from: krin0610 on September 20, 2013, 06:13:08 PMHello,

I am using my same username as on old forum  "krin0610" and was banned just because I was curious to know why some posts were amended/re-edited and why Sysop was deleting some comments ... I also questioned Dr Sringari's legitimacy ... etc.

All my posts (e.g. attached) were ultimately removed and I was silently banned.


Thanks

Not surprising after learning about Sysop/Apotheosis's unethical practices.  I hope karma bites him in the ass and he loses all his money on his "investments".

I'd like to see him do prison-time for using people's legs as guinea-pigs, along with crazy+6. Oh and any money they made would be used to compensate their victims.

Legally speaking (and no pun intended) we don't have a leg to stand on as far as I am aware.  This to me is the biggest risk.  Different country, different rules.  Ultimately we chose to do this to ourselves.  I cannot see any court in a foreign country prosecuting a native surgeon because some guy wanted their legs longer.

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Quote from: An_Apple_A_Day on September 21, 2013, 10:24:01 AMLegally speaking (and no pun intended) we don't have a leg to stand on as far as I am aware.  This to me is the biggest risk.  Different country, different rules.  Ultimately we chose to do this to ourselves.  I cannot see any court in a foreign country prosecuting a native surgeon because some guy wanted their legs longer.

I'm no legal expert but you never know, people have filed lawsuits for much lesser things and gotten compensations and rulings in their favour.  Also any type of fraud or conspiracy related crimes would be prosecuted in many countries, especially USA.   

By having a recommended/not recommended list ,  Apotheosiss could be sued as he is advising patients and could be held responsible for their results when things go wrong.   

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Greetings,

I just registered, but I am not ready to use my old forum  username and possibly get banned. I am completely neutral in this fracas. Just want to get taller safely and I wish people would be honest, objective, and supportive without all the personal BS and ulterior motives. Hope this is where that will happen and stay that way,

Anyhow, almost all mentions of "Sarin" on old forum  have been changed to "Withheld" and all of the Sarin diaries except for Sweden's and Crazy's, and Mmn_native (he's a Sarin patient, right?) have been deleted.

God, this is sooooo frustrating! And for those of us were planning/considering having this done someday soon, extremely unnerving/troubling/frightening.

Anyone know what's going on?

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UPDATE: Another search-and-replace was done and now all previous mentions of "Sarin" read as "my doctor", as in "I had surgery with Dr. my doctor last year"

WTF?!?!

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The only constant thing I keep seeing is that Sarin cannot be trusted.  It is almost as if this forum is confused.  On the one hand people are saying that old forum  is deleting any reference to Sarin and this is wrong.  Then you have a whole topic and posts dedicated to Sarin disasters with total knee replacements being required and no one recovering from him and he has been making threats, etc.

I think we really need to make up our minds here.  If the stuff about Sarin is true, then in many ways what SysOp did is correct by removing any reference to him and preventing people from choosing him.  On the flip side however, if what is written about Sarin on LL Forum is false and he is actually a good doctor, then this site itself has false information.  I mean what the hell is going on?

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Quote from: An_Apple_A_Day on September 22, 2013, 02:52:29 PMThe only constant thing I keep seeing is that Sarin cannot be trusted.  It is almost as if this forum is confused.  On the one hand people are saying that old forum  is deleting any reference to Sarin and this is wrong.  Then you have a whole topic and posts dedicated to Sarin disasters with total knee replacements being required and no one recovering from him and he has been making threats, etc.

I think we really need to make up our minds here.  If the stuff about Sarin is true, then in many ways what SysOp did is correct by removing any reference to him and preventing people from choosing him.  On the flip side however, if what is written about Sarin on LL Forum is false and he is actually a good doctor, then this site itself has false information.  I mean what the hell is going on?

Actually, let's get some thing clear,   here's the simple summary

1) BOTH Sarin and Apotheosis/Sysop cannot be trusted.

2) Sarin is a unprofessional doctor, he has threaten patients indirectly, brush off their concerns and alot of complications with his patients are not reported. This was mentioned in the first post if you read it carefully again.

3) Sysop/Apotheosis is a salesman for Betz Nail and is using old forum  as advertising portal  by endorsing fake diaries and censoring any questions regarding his own agenda.

4) In 2011 Sysop/Apotheosis purchased the website from old forum A  (the original admin). In 2012 Sysop/Apotheosis made 20/20 TV appearance to promote old forum  website.

5) It is possible Sysop/Apotheosis had a financial disagreement with Sarin when the doctor decided to use his own HLN Nail for surgeries instead of the Betz nail which Apotheosis is financially profiting from.   It's also happen that this was around the time that complains about Sarin were coming out in the open on old forum .

6) It appears the main purpose of Apotheosis trip to India was actually to set up partnerships with more doctors so that he can profit from the Betz nail when they are used on patients. 

7) The Phantom is a fake diary and Apotheosis allows it because he has a partnership with Dr Sringari. Apotheosis/Sysop also recommend Harke and LL Forumorlife to go to Dr Sringari.  All of this is to kick start a new wave of patients for Dr Sringari.

8-) Sarin was promoted to recommended list very easily and various people voice out against it only for Apotheosis/Sysop to reply something about not needing so long and he had "his own criteria".  Now Sarin will be moved to not recommended list, according to latest post by Apotheosis/Sysop.  What happens to those people who just went on his recommendation to Sarin?   

9) That just shows you how the recommended/not recommended list has no credibility and is just a plaything for Apotheosis/Sysop to leverage against doctors whom he is not in favor with.   He changes it as he wishes and account to nobody, is that the kind of person you want trust your legs with?  .
 
Right away, it's a bad sign when somebody can delete many diaries with no accountability and no explanations.  There are other bad doctors, did you see their diaries deleted?  Nope, they are still archived. 

10) It's my belief that Apotheosis got cold feet when he saw the above post about legal actions against him, thus today he suddenly deleted all reference to Sarin which are possible evidence.   What coincidence timing.

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Quote from: An_Apple_A_Day on September 22, 2013, 02:52:29 PMThe only constant thing I keep seeing is that Sarin cannot be trusted.  It is almost as if this forum is confused.  On the one hand people are saying that old forum  is deleting any reference to Sarin and this is wrong.  Then you have a whole topic and posts dedicated to Sarin disasters with total knee replacements being required and no one recovering from him and he has been making threats, etc.

I think we really need to make up our minds here.  If the stuff about Sarin is true, then in many ways what SysOp did is correct by removing any reference to him and preventing people from choosing him.  On the flip side however, if what is written about Sarin on LL Forum is false and he is actually a good doctor, then this site itself has false information.  I mean what the hell is going on?

People are going to find out about particular LL doctors regardless if them being on a website or not.  If someone decides to get his lengthening done in India and does a google search having to do with lengthening in India, Sarin's website will be one of the first to pop up. I think it's better that we keep info about particular doctors out in the open.

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Quote from: An_Apple_A_Day on September 22, 2013, 02:52:29 PMThe only constant thing I keep seeing is that Sarin cannot be trusted.  It is almost as if this forum is confused.  On the one hand people are saying that old forum  is deleting any reference to Sarin and this is wrong.  Then you have a whole topic and posts dedicated to Sarin disasters with total knee replacements being required and no one recovering from him and he has been making threats, etc.

I think we really need to make up our minds here.  If the stuff about Sarin is true, then in many ways what SysOp did is correct by removing any reference to him and preventing people from choosing him.  On the flip side however, if what is written about Sarin on LL Forum is false and he is actually a good doctor, then this site itself has false information.  I mean what the hell is going on?

The only true truth is that Sypsop is editing posts on old forum  and using fake accounts for this. Furthermore, Sysop was also using some genuine accounts - especially Dr sarin's patient accounts and was posting wrong/fake stories. Thus, you will only read comments/posts that he wants you to read for his own financial gain ... I know what I am talking about cause Sypsop amended some of my posts to reflect his line of thoughts and when I questioned him, I got banned and my post ultimately got deleted.

With regards to LL Forum and Dr Sarin, I can only say that I am currently a Dr Sarin's patient who has no interest in promoting Dr sarin (by the way, I was among the ones who used to complain about conditions in Dr Sarin's guest-house). Conditions in the guest-house have since significantly improved ... Concerning the medical side or Dr Sarin's skills, I think people should be honest and acknowledged that Dr Sarin is a very experienced and qualified doctor although he might appear sometimes careless ... let me explain: Dr Sarin, due to his experience & knowledge, tend sometimes to use the phrase "it's normal or it's OK" without further explanation ... I guess this is because from experience, he knows that there is nothing to worry about ... but what he forgot is that for patients, all these are new. On the other hand, I also I have to say that Dr Sarin is always available on Whatsapp for example and always reply instantly when a medical concern is brought to his attention.

I have been in the guest-house for just over 2 months and I have seen 3 patients (Americans) going back home walking ... of course not walking fully recovered as they were just like 5,6,7 months post surgery (not post frame removal).

Now, it's down to individual really to make up their mind ...

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i just want to mention 1 thing .... the photo on phantoms diary on page 3 is the exact same one i saw in in Crazy+6 diary. i didn't want to mention anything on old forum  but theres definitely some legitimacy in your post and i thank you for that.

your not a snitch for sarin thats for sure ... so i wish u luck with the forum

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Quote from: krin0610 on September 23, 2013, 04:11:38 PMQuote from: An_Apple_A_Day on September 22, 2013, 02:52:29 PMThe only constant thing I keep seeing is that Sarin cannot be trusted.  It is almost as if this forum is confused.  On the one hand people are saying that old forum  is deleting any reference to Sarin and this is wrong.  Then you have a whole topic and posts dedicated to Sarin disasters with total knee replacements being required and no one recovering from him and he has been making threats, etc.

I think we really need to make up our minds here.  If the stuff about Sarin is true, then in many ways what SysOp did is correct by removing any reference to him and preventing people from choosing him.  On the flip side however, if what is written about Sarin on LL Forum is false and he is actually a good doctor, then this site itself has false information.  I mean what the hell is going on?

The only true truth is that Sypsop is editing posts on old forum  and using fake accounts for this. Furthermore, Sysop was also using some genuine accounts - especially Dr sarin's patient accounts and was posting wrong/fake stories. Thus, you will only read comments/posts that he wants you to read for his own financial gain ... I know what I am talking about cause Sypsop amended some of my posts to reflect his line of thoughts and when I questioned him, I got banned and my post ultimately got deleted.

With regards to LL Forum and Dr Sarin, I can only say that I am currently a Dr Sarin's patient who has no interest in promoting Dr sarin (by the way, I was among the ones who used to complain about conditions in Dr Sarin's guest-house). Conditions in the guest-house have since significantly improved ... Concerning the medical side or Dr Sarin's skills, I think people should be honest and acknowledged that Dr Sarin is a very experienced and qualified doctor although he might appear sometimes careless ... let me explain: Dr Sarin, due to his experience & knowledge, tend sometimes to use the phrase "it's normal or it's OK" without further explanation ... I guess this is because from experience, he knows that there is nothing to worry about ... but what he forgot is that for patients, all these are new. On the other hand, I also I have to say that Dr Sarin is always available on Whatsapp for example and always reply instantly when a medical concern is brought to his attention.

I have been in the guest-house for just over 2 months and I have seen 3 patients (Americans) going back home walking ... of course not walking fully recovered as they were just like 5,6,7 months post surgery (not post frame removal).

Now, it's down to individual really to make up their mind ...

So what do you think of the posts here about Sarin?