As already mentioned, doctors don't assume any liabilities in case something bad happens. This has nothing to do with money. You won't be safer just because your doctor puts more money in his pocket. Ethical doctors don't perform cosmetic LL, therefore you end up with only the worst of the worst. Many of them are psychopaths. Be warned.
Quote from: TallerDream on August 10, 2018, 04:01:37 PMIf you really want this at least make sure you can afford the best doctors like Paley and whatnot which is really expensive, it will take a lot of yeara to save up that kind of money.
Regarding your girlfriend appreciate the concern she has on you, it demonstrates how she likes and cares about you.
It also demonstrates she is not shallow and that it doesn’t bother her that you’re not taller than her. She likes you for who you are and that’s the kind of girl you should want to be with.
Plus only LLers believe good looking girls only date 6’3+ men, some women they don’t give a damn about height, like your girlfriend.
Even recently I started to talk with a Brazilian chick, she’s literally a 9 and she likes me despite being almost as tall as myself, she’s 5’7 and I am 5’9 but she uses heels A LOT so most of the time she’s like 5’11... and it doesn’t bother her if I look shorter than her when wearing them.
If you do this, do it because you would genuinely like to see yourself taller and would increase your self-love. This should be an investment on your happiness and self esteem. Don’t do it because society respect taller men more. fk our hypocritical society
Haha you sound a lot like my gf. But you're right, I guess no matter what we can all get laid despite our height. I do love my girlfriend a lot, she's a 10 to me and me considering LL is definitely not to attract more women. I just think it would help me feel better about myself and my masculinity if that makes sense. But you're right in many respects, thank you for the perspective man. I also want to make sure I'm not overly fixated on my height. There are other things I could do, that would make me feel more manly I think, like growing out my beard. Idk.
Quote from: hanshi on August 10, 2018, 04:09:48 PMAs already mentioned, doctors don't assume any liabilities in case something bad happens. This has nothing to do with money. You won't be safer just because your doctor puts more money in his pocket. Ethical doctors don't perform cosmetic LL, therefore you end up with only the worst of the worst. Many of them are psychopaths. Be warned.
Wow, can you explain this further? I thought LL was somewhat accepted in the medical field no?
It’s not that it’s not accepted it’s that there still is a lot to be improved upon with it that’s a prime example of why the U.K. hasn’t ever gone with LL because it’s pretty risky and also why insurance companies don’t have it listed but to be totally honest with a more experienced doctor your more then likely to have a successful experience experience with LL that’s why people always say when it comes to a taller person doing LL go to paley etc because you’ve already got a desirable height so it would be more beneficial to you and would save you ruining an already good height
Quote from: hanshi on August 10, 2018, 04:09:48 PMAs already mentioned, doctors don't assume any liabilities in case something bad happens. This has nothing to do with money. You won't be safer just because your doctor puts more money in his pocket. Ethical doctors don't perform cosmetic LL, therefore you end up with only the worst of the worst. Many of them are psychopaths. Be warned.
+1
Ahhh 5'9" or something like 175.5cm is not too bad tbh. But i get it. One LL surgery and you could be 6ft+. If I were 5'9"+ right now I don't know how i'd feel i'd probably still be delusional and think i'm 5'10"-5'11". But 3 inches makes a big difference. It's tough for me to justify it even myself due to the fact that it limits us so much athletically. Even something as low as ~10% is pretty devastating.
I'm surprised a girlfriend would be opposed to the idea. I've found that women, even my mom somewhat understands the height thing and would encourage LL as their partner would be more appealing and taller. They wouldn't think as much about the possible consequences the height would just immediately register in their head.
The fact that your girl doesn't want you to do that means she most likely truly loves you the way you are tbh. If you truly love her back, then you should stay the way you are. If you think you're gonna leave her and want to enhance your value as a single man on the market, LL will help marginally with that. Looks as far as facial structure are still the most important though in that stratosphere.
You shouldn't be receiving too much grief from other men for your stature at 5'9"+ as it's a pretty common height and not too short. It's not IDEAL in any sense of the word, but it's acceptable and normal. You don't stand out too much in a good or bad way at 5'9". Something like below 5'7" and you're usually subject to the butt of short jokes and discrimination.
This is just what i've gathered from life experience i've had and studies i've read. Although i'm only 21 and have alot of life left to live. We are around the same age, i'm a little shorter than you. I'm definitely gonna go the LL route. You're still in the range where LL makes sense. You're in the ideal range where you can lengthen more AND it's justifiable. Your bones are more statistically likely to be longer than someones bones who is 5'5" therefor 20% of your bone is longer therefor you can lengthen more with less risk of complication.
If I was 5'10" i'd never do LL however. It's just not worth it. 5'9" and 5'10" is a difference for sure. You jump millions of Americans just by gaining that inch is what many don't understand. They just see an inch on a ruler and think it's nothing. Well if you look at 6 inches on a ruler it's really not much in reality either. But humans are so close that the extra added height makes a huge difference in appearance and perception from the standpoint of both others and more importantly yourself.
We are about the same height (but I am that height after my first LL).
Becoming 6ft with one LL at your height is too risky and doing 2 LLs at 5.9 is something only a lunatic would have done.
If you really want LL, go for it but don't go over 6-6.5cm max. That would make you 5.11,5 which is a perfect height and you'll feel completely fine with anything and the risk is not much.
So if you really want LL, go for a good but sensible lengthening. Anything else than that is plain stupid.
Quote from: Body Builder on August 10, 2018, 10:01:21 PMWe are about the same height (but I am that height after my first LL).
Becoming 6ft with one LL at your height is too risky and doing 2 LLs at 5.9 is something only a lunatic would have done.
If you really want LL, go for it but don't go over 6-6.5cm max. That would make you 5.11,5 which is a perfect height and you'll feel completely fine with anything and the risk is not much.
So if you really want LL, go for a good but sensible lengthening. Anything else than that is plain stupid.
Body builder where is actually safer to do lengthening tibia or femurs
Thank all of you for your input! I still haven't made up my mind, I imagine it's a long thinking process since it can be life altering. I've thought about it a lot, and I'm currently leaning towards no if I'm being honest. I'm 1,75 and though I'm on the shorter side, there's plenty of guys my height that can pull it off and I do after all have a pretty beautiful and loving girlfriend who doesn't mind. So ... Yeah there's that. I'll still be roaming this forum because I haven't totally decided but a lot of you guys truly bring up some good points.
My girlfriend suggested I could do other things that'll make me feel better, such as finding a sport, so I'll try that out.
my input is if you truly want to do LL only do ~6-7cm in your femurs and be done with it. I say this because of several reasons. #1 you will probably lose some of the trust in your relationship. #2 internal femurs is safer and you can lengthen more in your femurs. #3 one LL operation will cost less than two. #4 how much time do you really want to spend saving money and then staying in a hospital bed and then in physical therapy? i mean with internal femurs stryde will be like $55k-100k and then 2.5 months lengthening and then like 3-4 months of heavy PT. this is my honest opinion and i put a lot of thought into it. I hope this helps you
also, i forgot to say if you were to do two CLL operations and get tibias done that would be like ~5-6cm safety max and the lengthening phase is SLOW so like 5-6 months lengthening and then you have to do PT. don't forget needing to save the money for a second CLL too!
also the avg height in sweden is like 180-182 cm correct? 7 cm would put you near average
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