My LL Journey - Dr. Jamal Abu Nemer, Kiev

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If your goal was 9 or 10, you'd reach 8 without noticing ))  Funny how the mind works.

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Quote from: taller_in_Kiev on July 30, 2018, 05:20:16 PMIf your goal was 9 or 10, you'd reach 8 without noticing ))  Funny how the mind works.

Hello again

My goal was 5 cm to begin with

Anything above 5 cm is just an extra bonus in my book 

Have a nice evening. May God bless you.

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How are you man is it worth it?


How are the scars?

Walking unaided yet?

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Rocky, since you're now at the end of lengthening. Do you think its appropriate to post x-ray?
I am really interested in seeing the callus development. I think this sort of information is highly necessary to educate the public (on this forum)

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Quote from: Troma on July 31, 2018, 02:18:26 AMHow are you man is it worth it?


How are the scars?

Walking unaided yet?


Hello Troma

I am doing fine thanks.

If it is worth it. I guess it is individual from person to person. In my case I was looking for increasing my height, so I feel it was worth it.

Regarding the scars. There are diffidently scars. Once I remove the nail totally in 1 or 2 years, I will be getting cosmetic stitches. I might supplement it with laser treatment to make the scars fade out. But its too early to tell.

And lastly regarding the walking. I am still using a walker. Once we stop the lengthening I have to switch to crutches.

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Quote from: tlannister on August 01, 2018, 11:43:13 AMRocky, since you're now at the end of lengthening. Do you think its appropriate to post x-ray?
I am really interested in seeing the callus development. I think this sort of information is highly necessary to educate the public (on this forum)


Hello tlannister

I am still not done with the lengthening. I am very focused on completing the last millimeters I have left and getting a successful operation to remove the clicker devices from each leg. The clickers are very annoying on the hip area. But I guess I can consider this period as my last phase of the journey.

It could be. I will consider it. Honestly, my thoughts are somewhere else right now. I just want to finish and travel home to my family. I might not get back to this forum once I am done. We will see

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Quote from: Rocky on August 02, 2018, 03:24:19 PM
Hello tlannister

I am still not done with the lengthening. I am very focused on completing the last millimeters I have left and getting a successful operation to remove the clicker devices from each leg. The clickers are very annoying on the hip area. But I guess I can consider this period as my last phase of the journey.

It could be. I will consider it. Honestly, my thoughts are somewhere else right now. I just want to finish and travel home to my family. I might not get back to this forum once I am done. We will see






Hi Rocky.

Congratulations on your new height.

Initially you only wanted to lengthen your femur around 5cm?, What made you change your mind and go beyond this length?

Do you know what length your femur was pre-surgery and your tibia/femur ratio?

You mentioned at the commencement of your journal that during the start of the surgery you received an injection in your back(spine?). Did you notice any lingering effects from this injection, like backache or headache after surgery? Some people say they experience these. Can you opt of this injection or is it a must for surgery?

I assume the removal of the clicker pins is a minor surgical procedure?

Hope you don't feel I am asking too many questions. I am just seriously considering leg lengthening in the near future and I am still in the research phase wanting to learn as much as possible about the procedure, patient experiences etc and which LL doctor to choose before I undertake this serious endeavour.  At this stage and based on your overall possitive experience so far, I am drawn to Dr. Jamal as a possible choice to get LL done with in the future.

Thanks in advance

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Quote from: Valiant on August 02, 2018, 04:29:28 PMHi Rocky.

Congratulations on your new height.

Initially you only wanted to lengthen your femur around 5cm?, What made you change your mind and go beyond this length?

Do you know what length your femur was pre-surgery and your tibia/femur ratio?

You mentioned at the commencement of your journal that during the start of the surgery you received an injection in your back(spine?). Did you notice any lingering effects from this injection, like backache or headache after surgery? Some people say they experience these. Can you opt of this injection or is it a must for surgery?

I assume the removal of the clicker pins is a minor surgical procedure?

Hope you don't feel I am asking too many questions. I am just seriously considering leg lengthening in the near future and I am still in the research phase wanting to learn as much as possible about the procedure, patient experiences etc and which LL doctor to choose before I undertake this serious endeavour.  At this stage and based on your overall possitive experience so far, I am drawn to Dr. Jamal as a possible choice to get LL done with in the future.

Thanks in advance


Hello Valiant

Thank you very much.

No worries. You can ask as many questions you want. Let me try to answer them one bye one.

I was aiming for 5 cm in the beginning, but I was there in no time and it felt like a walk in the park. I have therefor decided to add few cm on top of that.

I guess I have posted my per-surgery CT scan earlier. My femurs were around 45 cm.

For the back injection, I had a minor headache for few days. You need to sleep on your back without a pillow during that period and it will fade away. When I did the right leg operation, I asked them to give me the injection in my arm and I slept totally during the operation.

And for the final question. The final operation is a minor one. Removing the clicker might take 10-15 minutes for both legs. This is what I am looking for soon 

Right now my full focus is about gaining the last millimeters and get this final operation done 

May God bless you.

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Sounds like you're doing great, Rocky! You're almost there.

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Quote from: Android on August 04, 2018, 07:42:00 AMSounds like you're doing great, Rocky! You're almost there.


Hello Android

Thank you very much. I'm almost there. It just needs some patient.

I can see that you are progressing too. Good luck my friend 

God bless you.