My LL Journey - Dr. Jamal Abu Nemer, Kiev

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I am also very interested in knowing what exactly went wrong.  When I was considering femurs he was one of the doctors I might've gone to.

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Dears,

I will try to answer your questions the best I can.

He manufactures his nails at a car spare parts factory and he pays the engineer there pennies to do so. Very poor materials quality. He has also been manufacturing his devices at cheap factories in Bangladesh and Pakistan but he stopped doing so, because the devices kept failing. I discovered that very late.

He never uses a monitor during the surgery, so he has in several occasions drilled screws in the wrong places. We have discovered a single time, where he drilled the lower screw few mm below the nail. So basically the nail was loose at one end. We discovered that during the X-Ray couple of weeks after the surgery. He didn't want to admit it to begin with and talked around the topic. We had to do another surgery to put the screw in its place, so it could hold the loose end of the nail.

He was panicking because he kept repeating the surgeries and replacing the nails multiple times. We ended up with more mistakes. He ended up losing focus and doing more mistakes. At one point he had tighten one of the screws too much. He told me that if the bones consolidate, he will have hard time removing it. So we had to do another surgery, so he could loosen the screw... I can keep going on...

Be also aware, that he utilizes his 2 students daughters to operate during the surgeries. One of his daughters is underaged. I discovered this accidentally by one of the nurses too.

He uses Lidocaine (local anesthesia) during his surgeries, because doctors get it either for free or for a small fee when they rent the surgery rooms in Ukraine.

When you sleep during the surgery, you will experience that you will wake up multiple times. If they are slow to give you the injection, you will start screaming of pain. I have confronted him with that but I was unsure if I was dreaming or if it was real. He kept saying that it was illusions, until one of the nurses told me the truth.

To make matters even worse. It turned out that he has no clinic and he is not a certified doctor in Ukraine. He bought his diploma in 2011.

If you ever get the chance to visit Ukraine, try to chase his 'clinic' address. It doesn't exist. There is no clinic!

Medical centre BONAMED
Chervonozorianyi prospect, 17, Kiev, Ukraine


http://www.correction.kiev.ua/index.htm

He has hired some Russian dude to answer any email request going to the official email: [email protected]

Because he simply can't read or write properly in English, Russian and doesn't know Ukrainian at all. He can't even write any medical report by himself. I wonder how he graduated from University.

If you can speak Russian or Ukrainian, try to have a normal and simple conversation with him over the phone and you will discover wonders by yourself.

Check his University Diploma and judge for yourself (It says Doctor of Philosophy)…

http://www.correction.kiev.ua/bonamed/phd-cert.jpg

I promised my wife to move on and not talk about this topic, but I couldn't help myself when I logged in and I saw your questions...

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I can't believe he is allowed to do surgeries and hope you recover soon

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I learned that he crippled several patients. He went through multiple interrogations with the police and the Ministry of Health has been alarmed. He is facing a serious court case this year.

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My next step is to even my legs as they don't have the same lengths anymore. Then I need to figure out, how to get rid of the wheelchair.

Thank you all for the nice wishes.
I really appreciate your support.

God bless you and take care of yourselves.

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Wow, best of luck with your recovery Rocky. It's sad to hear about a doctor (if you can even call him that) who is doing such terrible things to people to make a bit of money. I hope the authorities are able to stop him and he gets some kind of punishment for his actions.

To anyone else trying to save money on CLL surgery, please be careful! This forum has proven again and again that there are definitely bad actors out there.

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This is a story for a horror movie. I am so sorry for you and wish you recover well.

I have a question, since you appeared happy, excited and satisfied during the process, when was the time where serious problems occured (after distraction phase)?

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Dear RealLostSoul,

Thank you. I will try to answer your query the best I can.

The issues started to appear when the device broke inside my femur, after getting back home. The pain was unbearable. Thus, a replacement of the nail was a must. Then we discovered that my left and right legs were not even equal in lengths (And they still aren't until this day). Even the longer leg was not the expected length that we agreed about back then.

Later on, we discovered that the screws were not mounted correctly... The nightmare journey started from there. The more surgeries we did, the more mistakes we experienced. Not to mentioned the cheap materials that were being used and lack of hygiene.

I am under financial pressure right now and can't afford expensive surgeries anymore, but I have to find a way to even my legs in the future. Then I need to fill the non-union somehow. My ultimate goal is to be able to stand on a walker again. Once I am able to use the walker, I will hopefully graduate to crutches by time.

Being on wheelchair kills me slowly as a human being. 

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Dear BelowTheMean,

Thank you very much. I really appreciate it.

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Hi rocky sorry to hear this news. hope you get better soon. I did some research on your doctor abu nemr jamal and he seemed to have some positive testimonials from dragan who is well respected (i think). he seems to be a legit qualified doctor but if you say his documents are fake then its horrible

can you say some words about taller_in_kiev who used to say good things about abu? Did he work for the doctor? he made some posts on this thread and also on other threads and said he had 100% recovery and spoke in perfect english.

he also said you were doing very well and recovering.