Quote from: QuarkSoup on August 06, 2023, 01:23:56 AM
If the infection occurred during the operation, the patient would be justified in accusing the doctor and Wannabetaller. But as far as I understand, the Chinese patient developed an infection weeks after the surgery. She was Dr. Yuksel Yurttas's patient and didn't even stay at Wannabetaller's facility. When Dr. Yurttas refused to treat her, Dr. Yunus agreed to see her, even though she wasn't originally his patient. The lower leg is susceptible to infection due to its thin tissue. I've personally witnessed someone touch and poke the pin sites with bare fingers. Imagine if that person blamed the company or nurse for an infection. Fortunately, he didn't contract one, but he frequently fiddled with his wounds. Once, he even removed the bandages and waited a day.
Did you put a monitor on my leg? If I touch the wound at the fracture site with my hand and get an infection from the wound, shouldn't it start to rot from the outside?
Why did it start to rot from the inside?
Idiot, the wound at the fracture site should be taken care of by your nurse when we were in the hotel!
So I can say that poor care by your nurses gave us osteomyelitis?
Also I want to ask why the surgery you recommended to me left me with rheumatism in my left leg.
It always hurts a year after the operation! Especially it hurts every time when it rains.
I have to touch it to relieve the pain.
Why is it not infected when I touch it?
Why doesn't it still cause osteomyelitis? I obviously touched it! Medical experts, tell me why?
I have been wearing an Ilizarov fixator on my right leg for 10 months.
Why are the pinholes of me and many other patients not covered with gauze and not disinfected for more than 10 days?
Why are none of our pinholes infected?
Tell me why pinholes don’t get infected even if they are exposed without disinfection?
Why do those patients in China wear external frames for 2 to 3 years and have an extension of more than 18 centimeters, but they are not infected with osteomyelitis?
When there is an infection, the patients go to the hospital and the doctor will debridement them, why doesn't the doctor tell them that because you left the hospital so I have no responsibility to you and I can't treat your complications!
Why without nurse or physiotherapy, some chinese patients can run 10 kilometers after lengthening the thighs by 11 centimeters. Can you run?
My review of wannabe taller turkey (mostly negative )
I am very disappointed with WBT's style of excuses and evasion of responsibility after patients' accidents.
Quote from: WannaBeTaller-Official on September 20, 2023, 07:40:57 PMSIMPLE SUMMARY
They: WBT is a terrible company. They weren't interested in her and caused to have osteomyelitis. Dr. Yunus applied the wrong treatment and caused her osteomyelitis to increase.
WBT: 1-We have warned her four times that she has to stop your extension immediately. We even had to take the extension key from her hand in the end.
2- Since she continues to lengthen her legs secretly, we said that let's postpone the removal surgery to measure the reaction of your legs, so that maybe it will be necessary to undo the extra extension you made. (Later, we were told that the operating rooms were full due to planned surgeries. When we learned this, we worked hard to create a gap for removal. When she still insisted on surgery, we asked her to wait for the operating room to become suitable, but she still insisted so much.)
3- We asked her to stay in touch with us even if she is leaving the hotel. But she tooks a hostile attitude by revealing the private information of Xinjiangian staff and insulting them without any reason, broke off ties with us and did not establish right communication with us.
4- She applied to us when osteomyelitis symptoms started exactly four months later. Doctor Yunus started a treatment for her using methods he deemed appropriate. But by constantly questioning the treatment, she sets aside the doctor's instructions and dictated her own instructions to the doctor. Finally, she continued in other ways without completing your treatment.
Wait, I will translate all the evidence to refute your four lies into English and upload them.
Quote from: WannaBeTaller-Official on September 20, 2023, 07:40:57 PMSIMPLE SUMMARY
They: WBT is a terrible company. They weren't interested in her and caused to have osteomyelitis. Dr. Yunus applied the wrong treatment and caused her osteomyelitis to increase.
WBT: 1-We have warned her four times that she has to stop your extension immediately. We even had to take the extension key from her hand in the end.
2- Since she continues to lengthen her legs secretly, we said that let's postpone the removal surgery to measure the reaction of your legs, so that maybe it will be necessary to undo the extra extension you made. (Later, we were told that the operating rooms were full due to planned surgeries. When we learned this, we worked hard to create a gap for removal. When she still insisted on surgery, we asked her to wait for the operating room to become suitable, but she still insisted so much.)
3- We asked her to stay in touch with us even if she is leaving the hotel. But she tooks a hostile attitude by revealing the private information of Xinjiangian staff and insulting them without any reason, broke off ties with us and did not establish right communication with us.
4- She applied to us when osteomyelitis symptoms started exactly four months later. Doctor Yunus started a treatment for her using methods he deemed appropriate. But by constantly questioning the treatment, she sets aside the doctor's instructions and dictated her own instructions to the doctor. Finally, she continued in other ways without completing your treatment.
The reason why I lengtened by 7cm is :
1. Before the operation, they advertised that the calf could be lengthened to 7 cm.
2. WBT clearly has a precedent of calf length exceeding 7.5 cm,more than me
3. A ex- patient of W told me that the length would be shortened 1-2 cm after surgery to remove.Many patients tell me they are 1 cm shorter after one year.In order to ensure that I could grow 6 cm taller, I chosed to lengthen it by 7 cm.
4. When yuksel saw that my x ray was lengtened by 7 cm, he didn’t say anything about it !Even though it had length difference doctor and WBT told me it doesn't matter.
5.Now my calves are still much shorter than my thighs, and the proportions are very ugly.
6.There are many patients in China whose calves were lengthened by 8 to 15 centimeters. They took care of their wounds by themselves also without physical therapy. But they recovered very well. No one got osteomyelitis, and the lengthening was not the cause of osteomyelitis. Don’t change the subject!
7.WBT used this excuse to attack me, with the purpose of me as a disobedient patient who doesn’t love me legs, and then making others believe that I am a patient who will infect my fracture site with osteomyelitis by myself!
Quote from: WannaBeTaller-Official on September 20, 2023, 07:40:57 PMSIMPLE SUMMARY
They: WBT is a terrible company. They weren't interested in her and caused to have osteomyelitis. Dr. Yunus applied the wrong treatment and caused her osteomyelitis to increase.
WBT: 1-We have warned her four times that she has to stop your extension immediately. We even had to take the extension key from her hand in the end.
2- Since she continues to lengthen her legs secretly, we said that let's postpone the removal surgery to measure the reaction of your legs, so that maybe it will be necessary to undo the extra extension you made. (Later, we were told that the operating rooms were full due to planned surgeries. When we learned this, we worked hard to create a gap for removal. When she still insisted on surgery, we asked her to wait for the operating room to become suitable, but she still insisted so much.)
3- We asked her to stay in touch with us even if she is leaving the hotel. But she tooks a hostile attitude by revealing the private information of Xinjiangian staff and insulting them without any reason, broke off ties with us and did not establish right communication with us.
4- She applied to us when osteomyelitis symptoms started exactly four months later. Doctor Yunus started a treatment for her using methods he deemed appropriate. But by constantly questioning the treatment, she sets aside the doctor's instructions and dictated her own instructions to the doctor. Finally, she continued in other ways without completing your treatment.
<<About delaying my 20-days dismantling incident>>
On March 15, 2022, I told W in advance that I wanted to dismantle the fixator. W lied to me many times with reasons that the surgeon had never said: 1. At the beginning, he said that bending the knee could not be removed, but I did not bend the knee! 2. A few days later, they told me that there was no callus and they couldn’t remove it. Couldn’t give me a specific time for removal! But I obviously have a callus! And they used to remove it very fast!
I asked the surgeon what was going on. The doctor said there was nothing wrong with my callus, just because the operating room was busy these past two weeks! I showed WBT a screenshot of what the doctor said, and W boss immediately apologized to me. He promised that he would not allow to delay the removal surgery because the operating room was busy, and he promised to ask the doctor to remove it for me as soon as possible! In fact, they were really procrastinating!
So I gone to the hospital to make an appointment with the doctor. The doctor said that the earliest date would be April 2. On April 1, I went to the hospital for a blood test to prepare for the removal surgery next day. On the evening of April 1, I was notified that I was fasting, and then I was notified that the removal surgery was cancelled! What's the excuse this time? Just to ensure that my wound can be sewn more perfectly, I was explode to these dishonest liars !
I went to ask the doctor’s Chinese assistant, what happened? His assistant said: It was W’s boss who canceled the removal surgery himself. They have not prepare surgical materials. The surgical materials always have been purchased by W . The doctor was only responsible for performing the surgery! In the end, the operation was postponed to 2 days later. 2 days later, I saw patient J who had the removal surgery on the same day with me. When I asked him, he had only waited 2 days! WBT just in order to arrange for us to removal on the same day, WBT maliciously delayed my removal surgery for 20 days!
I tolerated this matter and did not pursue it further! W’s boss and other staff members were all involved in the group! They clearly know what happened! And he has already apologized to me for this matter! I don’t know how they had the nerve to come up with this story and fabricate it into another version, saying that I insisted on removal it as soon as possible, they went to great lengths to distort the facts, just to make uninformed people believe I was a patient who didn’t listen to them, so I was a patient who would make myself suffer from osteomyelitis!
Quote from: WannaBeTaller-Official on September 20, 2023, 07:40:57 PMSIMPLE SUMMARY
They: WBT is a terrible company. They weren't interested in her and caused to have osteomyelitis. Dr. Yunus applied the wrong treatment and caused her osteomyelitis to increase.
WBT: 1-We have warned her four times that she has to stop your extension immediately. We even had to take the extension key from her hand in the end.
2- Since she continues to lengthen her legs secretly, we said that let's postpone the removal surgery to measure the reaction of your legs, so that maybe it will be necessary to undo the extra extension you made. (Later, we were told that the operating rooms were full due to planned surgeries. When we learned this, we worked hard to create a gap for removal. When she still insisted on surgery, we asked her to wait for the operating room to become suitable, but she still insisted so much.)
3- We asked her to stay in touch with us even if she is leaving the hotel. But she tooks a hostile attitude by revealing the private information of Xinjiangian staff and insulting them without any reason, broke off ties with us and did not establish right communication with us.
4- She applied to us when osteomyelitis symptoms started exactly four months later. Doctor Yunus started a treatment for her using methods he deemed appropriate. But by constantly questioning the treatment, she sets aside the doctor's instructions and dictated her own instructions to the doctor. Finally, she continued in other ways without completing your treatment.
After I left the hotel i have not insulted anyone! Even if the housekeeper deleted me and has not help me apply for accommodation certificate, I did not insult him! WBT apologized to me in the group for this incident! I'm too lazy to pursue it! If you need this screenshot, I can publish it!You are so stingy with your patients and staffs, and you blame me for them leaving! How outrageous!
That Xinjiang employee slandered me behind my back with unsuspecting people, which caused other patients to scold me" I deserved it! "He clearly knew the development of the entire incident, but he chose to be an accomplice of WBT and smear me without telling the truth! You illiterate, I never insulted him!And I didn’t reveal his privacy ! Don't try to frame me!By the way, if you care about your privacy so much, why do you want to spread your photos around the world? You are simply narrow-minded, dark, and contradictory!
Quote from: WannaBeTaller-Official on September 20, 2023, 07:40:57 PMSIMPLE SUMMARY
They: WBT is a terrible company. They weren't interested in her and caused to have osteomyelitis. Dr. Yunus applied the wrong treatment and caused her osteomyelitis to increase.
WBT: 1-We have warned her four times that she has to stop your extension immediately. We even had to take the extension key from her hand in the end.
2- Since she continues to lengthen her legs secretly, we said that let's postpone the removal surgery to measure the reaction of your legs, so that maybe it will be necessary to undo the extra extension you made. (Later, we were told that the operating rooms were full due to planned surgeries. When we learned this, we worked hard to create a gap for removal. When she still insisted on surgery, we asked her to wait for the operating room to become suitable, but she still insisted so much.)
3- We asked her to stay in touch with us even if she is leaving the hotel. But she tooks a hostile attitude by revealing the private information of Xinjiangian staff and insulting them without any reason, broke off ties with us and did not establish right communication with us.
4- She applied to us when osteomyelitis symptoms started exactly four months later. Doctor Yunus started a treatment for her using methods he deemed appropriate. But by constantly questioning the treatment, she sets aside the doctor's instructions and dictated her own instructions to the doctor. Finally, she continued in other ways without completing your treatment.
Xinjiang employees made slanderous comments about me to other patients:
''We have had several postoperative complications cases , we usually strongly recommend that patients stay with us after surgery and receive the necessary post- operative care services(physiotherapy,regular wound cleaning and dressing change). One patient did not want to live with us after surgery and rented a house outside.Then he did not take good care of the wound, which led to infection.After the infection occurred,he did not come to us in time and only came to us when the infection became serious.Although we did The treatment is not complete yet and is still under treatment.We told the patient before the operation that there would be complications and that he would have to stay with us for at least three months after the operation, but he didnt listen and blamed us when he encountered problems.There was nothing we could do about it.''
Xinjiang employees made slanderous comments about me to other patients :
''This patient's infection was not cured despite treatment.We recommended that the patient live with us for three months after the operation, but the patient did not want to live with us and rented a house outside.Then he did not take good care of the wound, which led to infection, and he did not come to us in time. He haven’t come to us in time.It would be easier to treat if he came to us in time.''
Quote from: WannaBeTaller-Official on September 20, 2023, 07:40:57 PMSIMPLE SUMMARY
They: WBT is a terrible company. They weren't interested in her and caused to have osteomyelitis. Dr. Yunus applied the wrong treatment and caused her osteomyelitis to increase.
WBT: 1-We have warned her four times that she has to stop your extension immediately. We even had to take the extension key from her hand in the end.
2- Since she continues to lengthen her legs secretly, we said that let's postpone the removal surgery to measure the reaction of your legs, so that maybe it will be necessary to undo the extra extension you made. (Later, we were told that the operating rooms were full due to planned surgeries. When we learned this, we worked hard to create a gap for removal. When she still insisted on surgery, we asked her to wait for the operating room to become suitable, but she still insisted so much.)
3- We asked her to stay in touch with us even if she is leaving the hotel. But she tooks a hostile attitude by revealing the private information of Xinjiangian staff and insulting them without any reason, broke off ties with us and did not establish right communication with us.
4- She applied to us when osteomyelitis symptoms started exactly four months later. Doctor Yunus started a treatment for her using methods he deemed appropriate. But by constantly questioning the treatment, she sets aside the doctor's instructions and dictated her own instructions to the doctor. Finally, she continued in other ways without completing your treatment.
Lost contact? Really? I didn’t delete any of you. You said before the operation that you would contact the patients regularly, but why did you never contact me?When my legs suddenly swelled and I had a fever, I nervously asked all of you what it was. Do you remember what you said to me?
From July 8 to September 1, 2022,Xinjiang employee and another Chinese employee F delivered news to me for the boss of WBT and Yunus. You told me that purulent osteomyelitis can be cured with antibiotics alone. After treatment there would be no any problems, told me that Yunus was a very professional doctor and asked me to believe him, and I did it!
As a result, the osteomyelitis turned into chronic osteomyelitis, and Yunus still insisted on denying the internationally recognized method of treating osteomyelitis! At the same time, Q and J also developed osteomyelitis problems. Fortunately, they have returned to their home countries! Because the boss of WBT saw that they were treating in their own country paid by themselves, he told me that if he continued to treat me, it would be unfair to other patients who were treated at their own expense. WBT thought that they have paid for my medicine ( not the infusion fee )was kind to me enough! After that, the WBT boss abandoned me!
Chinese employee F tried to persuade his boss to change anther doctor for me. I did not trust them anymore and I had already purchased a ticket to return China! Sure enough, F told me that WBT boss had completely abandoned me! Because the boss thinks they are just intermediaries!
Quote from: WannaBeTaller-Official on September 20, 2023, 07:40:57 PMSIMPLE SUMMARY
They: WBT is a terrible company. They weren't interested in her and caused to have osteomyelitis. Dr. Yunus applied the wrong treatment and caused her osteomyelitis to increase.
WBT: 1-We have warned her four times that she has to stop your extension immediately. We even had to take the extension key from her hand in the end.
2- Since she continues to lengthen her legs secretly, we said that let's postpone the removal surgery to measure the reaction of your legs, so that maybe it will be necessary to undo the extra extension you made. (Later, we were told that the operating rooms were full due to planned surgeries. When we learned this, we worked hard to create a gap for removal. When she still insisted on surgery, we asked her to wait for the operating room to become suitable, but she still insisted so much.)
3- We asked her to stay in touch with us even if she is leaving the hotel. But she tooks a hostile attitude by revealing the private information of Xinjiangian staff and insulting them without any reason, broke off ties with us and did not establish right communication with us.
4- She applied to us when osteomyelitis symptoms started exactly four months later. Doctor Yunus started a treatment for her using methods he deemed appropriate. But by constantly questioning the treatment, she sets aside the doctor's instructions and dictated her own instructions to the doctor. Finally, she continued in other ways without completing your treatment.
September 4, 2022, WBT official response about I hope other doctors can replace yunus to remove nail and debridement:
''I have already reported your situation to my boss. He said that when complications occur, we will try our best to treat the patient, but the cost should be borne by the patient. When you came to us after complications occur, we have reimbursed your medication, consultation fees, transportation expenses . What we can do for you, we have already done.
If you needed surgery when you went to Dr. Yunus, Dr. Yunus would definitely perform surgery on you. The surgery was also a very painful process. You were still very young, so he treated you in a way that would cause the least harm to your body. .
The doctor you went to for consultation said that the treatment fee is really too high. The cost of treating osteomyelitis in Turkey is not that high. Dr. Yunus is a very professional doctor, but you feel that his treatment method is wrong and choose to go to another doctor. This is of course no problem and we respect your choice.
As a company we cannot bear the cost of the surgery, which causes serious losses to us. And it’s unfair to other patients who have to bear the cost of treatment if complications arise.
You left us not long after the stent removal surgery, and we were unable to follow up on your condition, and then your condition developed to this point. You go to your own surgeon (Yüksel Yurttas), and he doesn’t pay much attention to you, and you know it yourself. Although Dr. Yunus is not the chief surgeon who performs the surgery on you, he has been caring about your situation and has done everything he can for you.
If you want to go to another doctor for surgery, we respect your choice. But we cannot reimburse the surgery fee. if you want to pass law If the law solves the problem, you can sue.''
Other patients who have complications treated at their own expense in their own country,condemned WBT’s irresponsibility for me
Quote from: WannaBeTaller-Official on September 20, 2023, 07:40:57 PMSIMPLE SUMMARY
They: WBT is a terrible company. They weren't interested in her and caused to have osteomyelitis. Dr. Yunus applied the wrong treatment and caused her osteomyelitis to increase.
WBT: 1-We have warned her four times that she has to stop your extension immediately. We even had to take the extension key from her hand in the end.
2- Since she continues to lengthen her legs secretly, we said that let's postpone the removal surgery to measure the reaction of your legs, so that maybe it will be necessary to undo the extra extension you made. (Later, we were told that the operating rooms were full due to planned surgeries. When we learned this, we worked hard to create a gap for removal. When she still insisted on surgery, we asked her to wait for the operating room to become suitable, but she still insisted so much.)
3- We asked her to stay in touch with us even if she is leaving the hotel. But she tooks a hostile attitude by revealing the private information of Xinjiangian staff and insulting them without any reason, broke off ties with us and did not establish right communication with us.
4- She applied to us when osteomyelitis symptoms started exactly four months later. Doctor Yunus started a treatment for her using methods he deemed appropriate. But by constantly questioning the treatment, she sets aside the doctor's instructions and dictated her own instructions to the doctor. Finally, she continued in other ways without completing your treatment.
September 10, 2022,Yunus continues to deny the internationally recognized method of treating osteomyelitis. I decided to return to China for treatment!
"We are not joking about your legs at all. Complications may occur during any surgery, and patients are aware of the possibility of complications before surgery. The most effective treatment for your condition and the least harmful to your body right now is the yunus's treatment.
There are very few doctors who understand heightening surgery and can perform heightening surgery, and not every orthopedic surgeon understands this surgery. The doctors you visited told you to take out the needle first, fill it with antibiotics and then insert the needle into the bone cavity. There is a 50-60% risk of nonunion if you do this.
Of course, you have the right to choose another doctor to treat you, but the company cannot reimburse the treatment costs. According to the company's many years of experience, patients who keep changing doctors to see them do not get very good results. But you have the right to choose to have other doctors treat you, and we respect your choice. "
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