People who do over 5cm per segment: why?

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Quote from: MirinHeight on February 22, 2018, 03:04:04 PMtrue there are many outliers.
the question is... do you want to be an outlier?

doing 10+ cm puts you in outlier category for proportions

I'd take it, but I understand people who won't. Personally, I find the importance of just looking taller to be more important than proportions. However, that's probably due to my height. I guess I'd also not think that way if I was your height.

I also don't think disproportional = worse looking. It all depends on many factors.

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Quote from: zack420 on February 22, 2018, 12:30:56 PMIt really sucks that my I am gonna be disproportionate after lengthening 12 cm but I have no choice guys. I want to reproduce and being this short I would never get to date girls that are close to 173-175 cm. I already hate my father for passing on his manlet genes but now I have to "responsible" and will have to marry a girl that is tall and can't do that at 163 cm only.

How tall are your parents?

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Father is 168 cm while mother is 160 cm, the thing is all the relatives on my father's side are midgets that are less than 175 cm while on my mom's side they are greater than 175 cm. Damn these cursed manlet genes.

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Quote from: Body Builder on February 22, 2018, 02:16:03 PMStop saying things you don't know!.
I lengthened 3 inches and I look completely normal.
Yes my torso is a little short but my arms, my shoulders, my wrists, my head and generally everything is bigger than most of the men that are physically in my current height (5.9).
And I am sure I'll look better than most of the men of 5.11 height after I'll do my second LL because I'll be relatively tall without the skinny look that most of tall men have.
A short built man that does LL and is now more than average height due to longer legs but has still a bulk torso looks better than the majority of tall men.

So don't spread bs taking as an example a skinny little boy like Mars because there are plenty of short guys that looks like Lee Priest or Scott Caan (to not talk about bbers) that look like normal men but just short, not like kids. All these men will look terribly good after LL.

These people you talk about have trained for over 10 years in the gym along with steroids. Not everyone who is going to do LL can or will do that. Especially after lengthening over 10cm, I feel like it may even be dangerous to attempt so. But I do agree that if you're a body builder or you're big you can offset the disproportion of LL to a degree.


What I disagree with is you saying these guys look like normal proportioned men.





It's still pretty obvious that they're short to me, and it honestly looks a bit comical putting all that muscle on a tiny frame like that. And he would look even more comical after LL, a stuffy looking short frame with ballooned up muscles walking on stilts, smh. Still he would probably look better in clothes and probably better overall than not working out.

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Quote from: zack420 on February 22, 2018, 03:40:57 PMFather is 168 cm while mother is 160 cm, the thing is all the relatives on my father's side are midgets that are less than 175 cm while on my mom's side they are greater than 175 cm. Damn these cursed manlet genes.

Well, your mother is short too so it's not only his side's fault. The guys on your mom's side probably have taller dads as well.

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Quote from: Knik on February 22, 2018, 01:51:10 PMI don'tt understand why guys go over 2 cm per segment, everything after it is disproportionnal and dangerous

Obvious butthurt is obvious but you're getting closer to the truth than your previous beliefs.

I'm talking out of my ass here, but years ago, either on this forum, or the old old forum , or somewhere else like a medical journal, I read that the advised maximum lengthening for mobility and full mechanical recovery was a whopping whole 4cm or, 1.5 inches.

Which I agree with! That sounds realistic. The people on here who think you can spread apart your limbs by a full goddamn 5-6 inches and keep a normal gait and be healthy for the rest of your life are DELUSIONAL. And will cause a lot of problems for other people and themselves. You don't know how much you value your health until you lose it.

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@CaptainAmerica Obviously technology has improved since then, that is why lengthening 10 cm to 14 cm is reasonable and safe. Why do you think Paley has the limits set to 8 cm femur and 6 cm tibia??

@myloginacct Yes it's true but you have to understand all my maternal cousins are 6ft or above while my paternal cousins are midgets that are below 5'9". Yes they all have tall dads so If I had a tall dad I would be atleast 6ft.

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Quote from: zack420 on February 22, 2018, 04:07:44 PMObviously technology has improved since then, that is why lengthening 10 cm to 14 cm is reasonable and safe. Why do you think Paley has the limits set to 8 cm femur and 6 cm tibia??

What technology are you talking about? The human body has mechanically stayed the same for like over 500,000 years now, probably more. No matter how good the technology of the actual procedure itself gets, it doesn't matter because you are always at the whims of the mechanical and physical limits of your body itself.

Take any mechanical model where weight is suspended by a rod, pole, etc.. and see how well it functions after you add or subtract even 1 or 2 inches. It can have massive impacts on the efficiency. Granted, the human body is much more resilient, adaptive, and can withstand amazingly harsh conditions (just look at these bodybuilder dudes on steroids for 20+ years like Rich Piana lifting 500lbs+ and putting their body under immense stress constantly, and even obese 300+lb people who manage to survive over 10 years like that). But it isn't ideal. You will face leg pain, back pain, possibly be in a wheelchair at old age, etc..

Also, the biggest technological advancements have been weight-bearing and internal methods... Which still frequently cause disunions and long-term complications, at least with what I've seen here reading journals.

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My point was if Dr.Paley thinks he can lengthen 14 cm then it is obviously possible without much complication, sure you would never get your athletic performance back to 100% we all know that.

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Quote from: zack420 on February 22, 2018, 04:14:59 PMMy point was if Dr.Paley thinks he can lengthen 14 cm then it is obviously possible without much complication, sure you would never get your athletic performance back to 100% we all know that.

And Dr. Betz thinks you can lengthen 20cm. These are maximum limits so that really short guys will still give him $250,000 of business. This is a business after all. You want to make your market as big as possible. Realistically saying you can lengthen 2-3 inches isn't going to get all the 5'3-5'5 guys signing up in your office.