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Posted on Feb 22, 2018, 6:31 pm
#71

Quote from: LLprime2 on February 22, 2018, 06:21:41 PMhttp://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=4614.0

I go for 14 -15 cm. Check out my mock ups. They look fine.

As for my reason. Well, my starting height is super short, not just short. After two LL's only I will be at the border of short/average.


Do this same thing but with a photo of you standing next to other people. Your legs look very, very long with 14cm man. Also, you look better here because the photo is taken from a low angle.

I realize 156 is a hard height to start at, but I don't think going overboard is a good answer nor will it make your life that much better than lengthening a moderate amount either... This mentality of "well what do I have to lose anyway!" is pretty dangerous, but it is your life. Apo did more and is able to walk around fine, run not so well, but it is the things that you value in life.

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Posted on Feb 22, 2018, 6:31 pm
#72

Quote from: CaptainAmerica on February 22, 2018, 06:12:07 PMAnd I appreciate the Christ-like comparison, I do think that's pretty accurate, I am the Jesus Christ of LL, I am the savior here to save manlets from a lifetime of medical problems and BDD and staring in the mirror and afraid of taking photos with other people or afraid of wearing clothes because of how their body is proportioned. And just like Jesus Christ, you all want to crucify me for sharing this information.

If I can get at least one manlet to change his mind from doing 5 or 6 inches and instead maybe doing 3 and living a healthier life and looking more proportioned, then my gospel will be well heard and all worth it. The last thing I want is another person having year-long complications, feeling pain when they walk, being in a wheelchair, etc.. all over 1-2 inches of height that wouldn't have made that much of a difference anyway.

Obviously if everything was fine dandy and healthy I would be advocating for 5, 6, 7, 8 inches. But that's just not the reality. You have to take what you've got from life, be thankful that LL even exists, and then optimize for aesthetics and health.


while i believe your intentions are good, you are approaching this situation in a hostile manner. That is why you are receiving hate.

i also believe no body should lengthen more than 3 inches. 3 inches should be max for many reasons, but there are better ways to put it

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Posted on Feb 22, 2018, 7:32 pm
#73

Quote from: MirinHeight on February 22, 2018, 06:28:13 PMim 179 cm
and 95% of the guys in my family around my age are above 183 cm

thus, i have always been insecure about my height, because i feel very short around my family and have always been called short in my family. So it is all relative bro. I also was very good defensive end in football. lead my division 1 school in sacks and did not get a single scholarship from a D1 college because of my height. my younger brother who is 6'2 is playing college football in a division 1 school...

of course i have no plan of doing this surgery and trying to play football lmao. But these are the types of reasons i have been very insecure about my height.
and there have been multiple studies done where if you are over 6', you get paid more, you get more respect from your peers, you are more likely to win a job interview, etc.

and i have no insecurities about my looks. i have a pretty gf who is in the medical field (PA school) and i believe i am above average in attractiveness.

So no need to target someone when you dont know their situation and why they want LL.



after LL it's clearly one of the worst sport to do (in my opinion) 
and they is no difference of salaries between a 5-11 and a 6ft guy, you won't get more respect either. That could be the case between a 5-8 and a 6ft guy 
most tall (more than average at least) people who want to do LL are from the USA, it's kind of funny because US average is less than european average
there is no dutch people, it's funny from a country where it should be even worse to live for a underaverage guy

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Posted on Feb 22, 2018, 7:54 pm
#74

Quote from: Tiger9898 on February 22, 2018, 06:26:30 PMI have seen your post before and you really look good. I think main thing to get rid of bad proportions  is to build up muscles before or after LL. I don't mean one should be bodybuilder in short frame but building up muscles like you can help.  By the way, which program did u use for such a great mock up?


I used paint. I cut the image where the legs where by selecting that area and pulling it away by xxx pixle (7 cm). Then I selected one half if the splited image and streched it so both images pieces would be connected again. The streching of a selected area in paint works really well for mock ups.


For comparison reasons I don't have proper images with other people next to me, or images I would want to put on the internet. But I can trell you that my cam was standing at at least 1 meter height and about 5 meter distance. It's not from a low angle.


Also @ CaptainAmerica, I don't know about your height or the height of other people, but everyone experiences life in a different way, especially with height. I don't think you can relate to some people enough to know how they feel. I'm someone who does not think about his height for the most time of my life. Why would I even, there is nothing wrong 'with me'. And I don't even get to hear anything from others about my height, not even girls have ever mentioned my height, even with my height (Maybe it's so obvious that there is no reason for people to point it out. I might hear more after the operations, that's what I think). And I still think it's worth doing it just because I can. It's mostly for myself (the side effects of being perceived differently is a nice side effect for sure). I just find the thought of doing it interesting enough to go for it. It's comparable to a 'superhuman ability'. Why would I not want to try it out?

And I'm also convinced that I will heal up to 95-99% (If I only lenghten while the body responds positively). There is a reason why something like a placebo effect exists. Because the body does perform better or worse depending on the psyche of a person. The physical body, the healing power, and the immune system is connected to someone's real convinced and subconscious thoughts. If people expect to heal only a bit, how can they expect more than that? They are literally forcing their body to stop healing after they reached their expectations. They need higher expectations to heal better. (So for a pessimist, I can understand why they would not want to do LL. They would perform badly by being a pessimist according to what I explained before.) For that same reason people become sick depending on their mental state. You guys know that everyone has cancer and the immune system is constantly fighting it. It also is a process. What society labels as cancer is when your body lost the fight with the cancer that is always there to some degree, and the cancer is likely to finish from there. Even from that point you can have a comeback. So you need to realize how much of the unsuccessful operations happen due to the person having the operation. This is why you see mentally stable people perform better.

Of course the operation itself needs to be a success. After that, the rest is up to me.

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Posted on Feb 22, 2018, 8:12 pm
#75

Height is an advantage but it's not the be-all and end-all. 

I'm fine with tall people (5'10 and up) wanting to be taller, but I fully believe just getting out of "short" territory is the main benefit that CLL can bring. Also, killing your height neurosis. 

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Posted on Feb 22, 2018, 8:17 pm
#76

Quote from: CaptainAmerica on February 22, 2018, 05:58:35 PMSince you personally insulted me I’ll insult you as well. You’re 5’4. That’s game over. You will look comical no matter how much LL you get because of your small body frame. So do what you want and get 5 inches. You also sound low IQ and like 15 years old so I don’t think you’ll ever figure out how to earn enough money or get this surgery in the first place. Good luck!


You guys all need to stop, since personal attacks are against the rules.

I think that height shaming is specially bad, though, and you need to avoid it. It's a such a low blow to attack someone for their height in a CLL forum. The worst instance I saw of this here was a 6 feet guy mocking others for their luck compared to his.

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Posted on Feb 22, 2018, 8:20 pm
#77

Quote from: MirinHeight on February 22, 2018, 06:28:13 PMim 179 cm
and 95% of the guys in my family around my age are above 183 cm

thus, i have always been insecure about my height, because i feel very short around my family and have always been called short in my family. So it is all relative bro. I also was very good defensive end in football. lead my division 1 school in sacks and did not get a single scholarship from a D1 college because of my height. my younger brother who is 6'2 is playing college football in a division 1 school...

of course i have no plan of doing this surgery and trying to play football lmao. But these are the types of reasons i have been very insecure about my height.
and there have been multiple studies done where if you are over 6', you get paid more, you get more respect from your peers, you are more likely to win a job interview, etc.

and i have no insecurities about my looks. i have a pretty gf who is in the medical field (PA school) and i believe i am above average in attractiveness.

So no need to target someone when you dont know their situation and why they want LL.


I personally think 179 cm is more than good height and LL might not be necessary, but I can understand your point and do not question you reason, we all are free to use this opportunity and live our lives as we wish.

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Posted on Feb 22, 2018, 8:33 pm
#78

Quote from: myloginacct on February 22, 2018, 08:12:59 PMHeight is an advantage but it's not the be-all and end-all. 

I'm fine with tall people (5'10 and up) wanting to be taller, but I fully believe just getting out of "short" territory is the main benefit that CLL can bring. Also, killing your height neurosis.



but you know everybody is 6-7
that's my case too, most of my uncles (4 uncles) are 6/6-2 (that's what they claim, I don't know exactly maybe a bit less than their claim for some of them) and I'm not insecure. I don't feel short next to them as my shoulders are at the same level than their shoulders (for those at 6ft). 2 of them are white, 1 is black, another one is mixed
and I know they are tall, so no reason to be insecure
thanks to them I can be sure that average is far from 6ft or even 5-11

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Posted on Feb 22, 2018, 8:46 pm
#79

Quote from: Knik on February 22, 2018, 08:33:32 PM
but you know everybody is 6-7
that's my case too, most of my uncles (4 uncles) are 6/6-2 (that's what they claim, I don't know exactly) and I'm not insecure. I don't feel short next to them as my shoulders are at the same level than their shoulders (for those at 6ft). 2 of them are white, 1 is black, another one is mixed
and I know they are tall, so no reason to be insecure
thanks to them I can be sure that average is far from 6ft or even 5-11


Have you tried measuring yourself again? I think you're taller than 170.5cm. But you're right. The difference in height between two persons only gets massive after 13cm.

I've seen people who did LL from 5'7 to 5'10 mention how surprised they were at how close people of their former height seemed to them. Because we only experience life through our eye level, height differences seem bigger than they really are to others.

Quote from: LLprime2 on February 22, 2018, 07:54:33 PMI used paint. I cut the image where the legs where by selecting that area and pulling it away by xxx pixle (7 cm). Then I selected one half if the splited image and streched it so both images pieces would be connected again. The streching of a selected area in paint works really well for mock ups.


For comparison reasons I don't have proper images with other people next to me, or images I would want to put on the internet. But I can trell you that my cam was standing at at least 1 meter height and about 5 meter distance. It's not from a low angle.


Also @ CaptainAmerica, I don't know about your height or the height of other people, but everyone experiences life in a different way, especially with height. I don't think you can relate to some people enough to know how they feel. I'm someone who does not think about his height for the most time of my life. Why would I even, there is nothing wrong 'with me'. And I don't even get to hear anything from others about my height, not even girls have ever mentioned my height, even with my height (Maybe it's so obvious that there is no reason for people to point it out. I might hear more after the operations, that's what I think). And I still think it's worth doing it just because I can. It's mostly for myself (the side effects of being perceived differently is a nice side effect for sure). I just find the thought of doing it interesting enough to go for it. It's comparable to a 'superhuman ability'. Why would I not want to try it out?

And I'm also convinced that I will heal up to 95-99% (If I only lenghten while the body responds positively). There is a reason why something like a placebo effect exists. Because the body does perform better or worse depending on the psyche of a person. The physical body, the healing power, and the immune system is connected to someone's real convinced and subconscious thoughts. If people expect to heal only a bit, how can they expect more than that? They are literally forcing their body to stop healing after they reached their expectations. They need higher expectations to heal better. (So for a pessimist, I can understand why they would not want to do LL. They would perform badly by being a pessimist according to what I explained before.) For that same reason people become sick depending on their mental state. You guys know that everyone has cancer and the immune system is constantly fighting it. It also is a process. What society labels as cancer is when your body lost the fight with the cancer that is always there to some degree, and the cancer is likely to finish from there. Even from that point you can have a comeback. So you need to realize how much of the unsuccessful operations happen due to the person having the operation. This is why you see mentally stable people perform better.

Of course the operation itself needs to be a success. After that, the rest is up to me.


Hey, LLPrime, if you don't mind the personal question: how are you expecting your life to change after LL?

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Posted on Feb 22, 2018, 8:54 pm
#80

Quote from: myloginacct on February 22, 2018, 08:46:33 PMHave you tried measuring yourself again? I think you're taller than 170.5cm. But you're right. The difference in height between two persons only gets massive after 13cm.

I've seen people who did LL from 5'7 to 5'10 mention how surprised they were at how close people of their former height seemed to them. Because we only experience life through our eye level, height differences seem bigger than they really are to others.



Let's say 5-7 range, whatever it can be something between 170 and 172
my eye level clearly is at 160 cm
I made the same method at 23h30 by using something on my head and using a tape is showed me 171 cm
so 5-10 wasn't a big difference according to them ?

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