Possibility of an "attractive" girlfriend with short height

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I had some very attractive gfs before LL.
But I was too young and they were too young also (17 up to 22) so I doubt if that would still happen at 25yo or my current age (30+).

The younger you are the bigger are the possibilities to find an attractive girl who looks better than you.
The older women get the more they discover their "value" and go for men with a good appearance (where height is the most important) and successful because they have plenty of choices and usually choose one of the best.
And a 5.6 guy is most of the times not good enough for them except they are shorter and the guy is really rich or famous.

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Quote from: Body Builder on February 13, 2021, 07:50:36 PMI had some very attractive gfs before LL.
But I was too young and they were too young also (17 up to 22) so I doubt if that would still happen at 25yo or my current age (30+).

The younger you are the bigger are the possibilities to find an attractive girl who looks better than you.
The older women get the more they discover their "value" and go for men with a good appearance (where height is the most important) and successful because they have plenty of choices and usually choose one of the best.
And a 5.6 guy is most of the times not good enough for them except they are shorter and the guy is really rich or famous.

Could not be further from the truth. Women's initial standards are high but once they actually get to know the guy they come down to earth. Only tossers and shallow women make a decision on a partner based only on appearance, and you do not need to be a millionaire or famous either. Tinder and some phoney one night stands are another story though. I am confident and charismatic so I could be standing next to a guy who is 6ft3 but I would be the taller one. Men and women can just tell the energy of a confident man and that is what wins. Period.

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There is also certain possibilities that you could get electrocuted by thunder.So what?As low possibilities are it doesn't mean you must succeed in possessing an attractive gf.
Becoming taller and handsomer will definitely entitle you to have more attractive gf.So stop being childish about the ideas that you can accidentally date a beautiful gf.

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Quote from: Jamesy998 on February 13, 2021, 04:07:13 PMThe internet makes short height sound like a disability. Reality could not be further from the truth. It is very common to see a short man with a very attractive women.
Sorry that I haven't seen it very common to witness a short man with a very attractive woman.All women are awared that height is very difficult to change so height will be the most crucial factor of a man's charm.What's more Internet can reflect some truths in reality

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Quote from: Realistic on February 13, 2021, 02:36:09 PMI am thinking about how bad the situation is for someone who is 5'6" in the West, mainly North America.I know the probability of finding an "attractive" girlfriend  is low but is it very less? I have not been able to date attractive looking girls but I have been successful in dating average looking girls...How has your experience been? Has LL changed the equation completely?

I’ve dated a few model worthy girls, height isn’t the determining factor with everyone.

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It is unlikely due to chance. Girls in the West on average will be taller than you. You very rarely see a taller woman than man. Limits the pool and the only a fraction of them will be attractive.

At your height I think being friendly, funny and intelligent is your best option. I've seen others try to be overly confident and has failed at that height, I've never seen anyone succeed with it.

You aren't really competing against the 190cm group, if a woman wants tall man she is not going for you. You are competing with the 180cm group which are statistically many more in number than you

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Quote from: Coeus on February 13, 2021, 11:41:46 PMSorry that I haven't seen it very common to witness a short man with a very attractive woman.All women are awared that height is very difficult to change so height will be the most crucial factor of a man's charm.What's more Internet can reflect some truths in reality

I live in Ireland and girls here don't obsess about mens heights at all, maybe that is the reason why.

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Quote from: Realistic on February 13, 2021, 03:52:26 PMYeah..those on TV/celebrities are outliers.
Same for very wealthy/successful non-celebrities.  A Jaguar and an Armani suit can do wonders for even the shortest man.

And I used those two guys as examples because the pro wrestling business seems to be in permanent decline.  Those two guys are lucky to make a middle-class income.  Make a name for yourself and you don't even need the money to get some of the benefits.

QuoteBut for you, is it because you became less angry/more personable etc or just the height itself made you more attractive with your personality more or less the same?

About 50/50 I think.  I'm still somehwat angry and impersonable, but now the milder anger comes from a more physically desirable guy who doesn't look like his anger is due to a Napoleon complex.

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Really there are too many factors here for one simple answer. The best answer for the OP is: if the type of girl that you find attractive tends to be the type of girl that likes taller guys, then you're out of luck. If the type of girl you find attractive doesn't care how tall you are, then your height doesn't matter.

If that's not very helpful, then the fact is attraction is very subjective, which is why you get such a huge variety of answers in this thread. What one guy thinks is a 10/10 might only be a 5/10 to another guy. Some guys are certainly pickier than others, and if you're more picky with women than what you can bring to the table overall, then you're going to have a hard time.

Also, what counts as "short" is very subjective as well. Honestly, short attractive guys have a better time with women than slightly taller and not very attractive guys. If you're short and not attractive, then you're probably SOL. Of course, if you're rich enough then you can easily find a very attractive girlfriend no matter what your physical attributes are, but she clearly would not be dating you for your physical attributes.

I think the only things that we can posit here are:

• A short, but otherwise well-rounded and confident guy can at least get some girls.
• The girls that this guy gets may or may not meet his standards.
• This exact same guy will have access to more girls than he did before, if he becomes taller.
• Therefore, it's more likely that the guy will find a girl that meets his standards if he becomes taller.

That's it - no absolutes.

CLL will help every guy do better with women, but for those starting from zero, they'll still be at zero after CLL, because height isn't the only thing that matters.

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Quote from: BelowTheMean on February 14, 2021, 07:17:59 PMReally there are too many factors here for one simple answer. The best answer for the OP is: if the type of girl that you find attractive tends to be the type of girl that likes taller guys, then you're out of luck. If the type of girl you find attractive doesn't care how tall you are, then your height doesn't matter.

If that's not very helpful, then the fact is attraction is very subjective, which is why you get such a huge variety of answers in this thread. What one guy thinks is a 10/10 might only be a 5/10 to another guy. Some guys are certainly pickier than others, and if you're more picky with women than what you can bring to the table overall, then you're going to have a hard time.

Also, what counts as "short" is very subjective as well. Honestly, short attractive guys have a better time with women than slightly taller and not very attractive guys. If you're short and not attractive, then you're probably SOL. Of course, if you're rich enough then you can easily find a very attractive girlfriend no matter what your physical attributes are, but she clearly would not be dating you for your physical attributes.

I think the only things that we can posit here are:

• A short, but otherwise well-rounded and confident guy can at least get some girls.
• The girls that this guy gets may or may not meet his standards.
• This exact same guy will have access to more girls than he did before, if he becomes taller.
• Therefore, it's more likely that the guy will find a girl that meets his standards if he becomes taller.

That's it - no absolutes.

CLL will help every guy do better with women, but for those starting from zero, they'll still be at zero after CLL, because height isn't the only thing that matters.

Nailed it!