Quote from: wishadream on April 13, 2018, 07:36:41 PMHello Constantine. I wish all the best, and very well recovery in the future. I have a question regarding the duck ass complication which happens in femur lengthening. Apparently, there is a solution called cutting IT band, which can avoid having duck ass complication even when somebody lengthens up to 8cm. Can you please ask Dr Betz idea about cutting IT band? Has he done it on you? Apparently, Dr Paley performs it on his patients.
Thank you wishadream for the best wishes.
In the consultation we talked about 4 hours with Dr Betz . We talked also about duckass etc but he didn’t told me anything about this opportunity . But later in my advanced lengthening phase I will ask him. As I can guess he will say correct your duckass with physio 
Reaching new heights with Betz 2018
Hello Constantin,
firstly i wish you good luck with your LL process.
My question is a bit private, i live in Germany too. I'm 32 years old and have been working for a few years in a company. I guess, i can save enough money in a few years for the LL surgery but i can't figure out what i can do with my job if i get surgery. Because i think i can't work at all at least 3-4 months after the surgery. So i wanted to ask you how you solved that problem.
Btw I am 174cm and i want to be 180cm. I have bow legs but just a little bit.. my another question is, is it possible to correct the bow legs and LL at the same time by internal method and how long it would keep me away from my work and social life.
Ofcourse anyone else can answer my questions too.
thanks in advance
Bow legs are corrected with the external method. I haven't heard that an internal method is used while correcting bow legs, but maybe someone else knows better.
People say to take as much time as it takes for the LL procedure and regeneration to finish. I recommend to face that truth and not try to get ithe OP in somehow in 5 months or so. I would expect that a good employer will let you take off that time for that special operation and accept you back at work afterwards.
Quote from: fritz on April 15, 2018, 07:28:26 PMHello Constantin,
firstly i wish you good luck with your LL process.
My question is a bit private, i live in Germany too. I'm 32 years old and have been working for a few years in a company. I guess, i can save enough money in a few years for the LL surgery but i can't figure out what i can do with my job if i get surgery. Because i think i can't work at all at least 3-4 months after the surgery. So i wanted to ask you how you solved that problem.
Btw I am 174cm and i want to be 180cm. I have bow legs but just a little bit.. my another question is, is it possible to correct the bow legs and LL at the same time by internal method and how long it would keep me away from my work and social life.
Ofcourse anyone else can answer my questions too.
thanks in advance
thanks for the wishes LLprime2!
i have my own company and prepared everything before. I am still organizing things in the background and stay in contact with my employees. I am also visiting my company as much as i can.
Dr Betz told me a lot storys where people after surgery go back to work. Also my Roommate gets back to work after 14 Days. But in his job he is alone in his office so he lies back and put his legs on his table most of the time and relax. Its different for each person. But to be honest LL is not a little breath and really challenging also mentally. And I am busy all the time with stretching, physio, bicycle, clicking and managing the pain. I am happy when the day is over. In between working for me is not possible.You can write me a private message also if you want so we can talk in german..
Quote from: LLprime2 on April 15, 2018, 10:00:24 PMBow legs are corrected with the external method. I haven't heard that an internal method is used while correcting bow legs, but maybe someone else knows better.
People say to take as much time as it takes for the LL procedure and regeneration to finish. I recommend to face that truth and not try to get ithe OP in somehow in 5 months or so. I would expect that a good employer will let you take off that time for that special operation and accept you back at work afterwards.
I agree completely.
hey friend,
i come from Taiwan
may i ask how much total you paid
by the way how tall you got??
best regards
Quote from: jjh770812 on April 16, 2018, 03:44:12 PMhey friend,
i come from Taiwan
may i ask how much total you paid
by the way how tall you got??
best regards
He answered in the previous page.
Quote from: jjh770812 on April 16, 2018, 03:44:12 PMhey friend,
i come from Taiwan
may i ask how much total you paid
by the way how tall you got??
best regards
As android said I answered this in the previous page (52.000€ just the surgery and stay at comfort clinic)
I am now at 5,73cm
since I survived my last nerve pain attack I feel good. When I passed 5cm i thought it’s getting more difficult , but now I notice the opposite. I hope it keeps going like this. But It’s really different day by day but now in general it’s not bad. To the future LLers I can say that the first weeks are really hard, keep that in your mind. Then it’s getting better and better..
Quote from: Constantine on April 05, 2018, 05:00:35 PM5cm Post
As i see not so much people are interested in my Diary, no post so far from anybody i still try to keep it up here. Maybe when i am old i can read my own diary again
Almost 2 month post Op
Wide legs: getting wider
duck as: yes 
clicking: still easy , 15 clicks per day (0,078mm)
My nerve pain came back again and it was horrible. So i decided not click on last saturday and sunday. And it helped a lot, i feel much better. I will try to rest once a week at least.
The clicking is still easy but the pain after clicking increased. I am clicking at round about 1pm or 2pm now. After clicking i stay in my bed and try to relax. I think it helps a bit. During LL you try a lot of things to low the pain level. But i think at the end its always the same and you have to go through it anyway.
Sleeping is actually ok compared with what i read in other diaries. I sleep round about 8 hours every night. I woke up of course 2-3 times cause of leg stiffness but then i change sleeping position and i go on sleeping.
In the Last two month i lost 7kg, i have no butt anymore. I can feel my bones when i sit down. Also legs are very thin and I lost most of my muscles in my upper body and arms.
Because of my wide legs and duck ass i am not staying straight so my height is not looking as much as it is actually.
Wish you all a nice weekend 
Actually, this seems to be so rare that I just had to make another comment.
Why do you think you have been sleeping so well throughout CLL?
Did it start that way, or did it take a long time until you were sleeping 8 hours a day?
As I've commented before, I think the often mentioned 2~4 hours of sleep at most everyday - waking up and trying to go back to sleep again - are what would break me, even if I was managing the pain.
Quote from: Constantine on April 05, 2018, 05:00:35 PM5cm Post
As i see not so much people are interested in my Diary, no post so far from anybody i still try to keep it up here. Maybe when i am old i can read my own diary again
Almost 2 month post Op
Wide legs: getting wider
duck as: yes
clicking: still easy , 15 clicks per day (0,078mm)
My nerve pain came back again and it was horrible. So i decided not click on last saturday and sunday. And it helped a lot, i feel much better. I will try to rest once a week at least.
The clicking is still easy but the pain after clicking increased. I am clicking at round about 1pm or 2pm now. After clicking i stay in my bed and try to relax. I think it helps a bit. During LL you try a lot of things to low the pain level. But i think at the end its always the same and you have to go through it anyway.
Sleeping is actually ok compared with what i read in other diaries. I sleep round about 8 hours every night. I woke up of course 2-3 times cause of leg stiffness but then i change sleeping position and i go on sleeping.
In the Last two month i lost 7kg, i have no butt anymore. I can feel my bones when i sit down. Also legs are very thin and I lost most of my muscles in my upper body and arms.
Because of my wide legs and duck ass i am not staying straight so my height is not looking as much as it is actually.
Wish you all a nice weekend
By the way, here's the video with the correct timestamp where Paley describe how he deals with duck ass in his femoral lengthening cases - what user wishadream was talking about.
It's from 54:17 until the end of the vid, basically.
Quote from: myloginacct on April 17, 2018, 02:34:11 PMActually, this seems to be so rare that I just had to make another comment.
Why do you think you have been sleeping so well throughout CLL?
Did it start that way, or did it take a long time until you were sleeping 8 hours a day?
As I've commented before, I think the often mentioned 2~4 hours of sleep at most everyday - waking up and trying to go back to sleep again - are what would break me, even if I was managing the pain.
In the first weeks my sleeping was really bad. I woke up every 2 hour and started stretching and riding my home bike . Then I slept again for at most 2 hours. But I was clicking that time really late in the evening . After I changed this I sleep really good compared what I read in other diaries. I can’t tell you why and I am not doing something special about this. I also don’t take sleeping pills. For example last night I slept about 9 hours. I wake up just for a few seconds and change position maybe .
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