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Posted on Jun 21, 2023, 10:32 pm
#31

Quote from: le0csff on June 21, 2023, 10:09:25 PMI never claimed external tibia was safer, you're knocking up a strawman to argue against. I do not owe anyone an exhaustive discussion of risks and benefits, they can put on their big boy pants and decide for themselves.

But the safest option isn't always available as guess what, the safest option is 3x more money! If the options on the table are: get tibias done when you're 21 for $20k, or spend the next 4 years saving up the money to do internals for $60k and finally getting it done at 25, I'd certainly take the $20k option as it means I'd have 4 extra years of being taller in the prime of my life.

I see no way a 25 year old can be reasonably considered better looking than an 18 year old. That's not to say every single 18 year old mogs every single 25 year old before that strawman is pulled out, just that 18 year olds in general are better looking than when they're 25.


>I never claimed external tibia was safer, you're knocking up a strawman to argue against.

I already clarified to you, I was replying to Body Builder. He claimed that. You should spend less time typing, and more time improving your reading comprehension.

As I said, that's your decision. It's up to you. Understand what you're doing 100%. They're your limbs, risk getting them butchered or not, that's up to you.

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Posted on Jun 21, 2023, 10:37 pm
#32

Quote from: BestOfLuck on June 21, 2023, 10:31:40 PMGet that fxggot ass reddit term tf out of my face you
Pathetic manchild. “The legal age of consent is 16🤓” head ass pussy. I make more then you. I own you. Pedo.


You don't own nuffin lol, you're a virgin who is already moneycoping at the age of 20. We already know you get nothing because if you did you'd know women around your age don't care about how much cash you have. You were mogged at 20, and you'll be mogged at 30 - guys like you are just basically our slaves, used to provide taxes to keep the breeders and women in society in comfort. You see, you provide taxes to support society, while we fk all the women while you're at work.

That's just the way it is, I can't even feel sorry for you, it'd be like feeling 'sorry' for a lowly cell in the body. Just like the cells exist to support the higher organs, you wagies and moneycopers exist to support the higher life form that is the NEET master race.

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Posted on Jun 21, 2023, 10:42 pm
#33

Quote from: le0csff on June 21, 2023, 10:37:46 PMYou don't own nuffin lol, you're a virgin who is already moneycoping at the age of 20. We already know you get nothing because if you did you'd know women around your age don't care about how much cash you have. You were mogged at 20, and you'll be mogged at 30 - guys like you are just basically our slaves, used to provide taxes to keep the breeders and women in society in comfort. You see, you provide taxes to support society, while we fk all the women while you're at work.

That's just the way it is, I can't even feel sorry for you, it'd be like feeling 'sorry' for a lowly cell in the body. Just like the cells exist to support the higher organs, you wagies and moneycopers exist to support the higher life form that is the NEET master race.


LMAO  you actually couldnt be guessing more if you tried you dumb fxggot. I dont pay taxes. I would NEVER bother giving money to a goverment that uses it to bomb people in third world countries. Farthest thing from a virgin and havent been since i was young. And im not a money slave. I come from a rich family with already setup connections unlike you whos broke at 30 with jack   going for him so he has to consider  LL as a last case resort. The simple fact that your doing it at 30 compared to me at 20 makes any arguement you have invalid fxggot. Im up on you.

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Posted on Jun 21, 2023, 10:45 pm
#34

Quote from: BestOfLuck on June 21, 2023, 10:42:02 PMLMAO  you actually couldnt be guessing more if you tried you dumb fxggot. I dont pay taxes. I would NEVER bother giving money to a goverment that uses it to bomb people in third world countries. Farthest thing from a virgin and havent been since i was young. And im not a money slave. I come from a rich family with already setup connections unlike you whos broke at 30 with jack   going for him so he has to consider  LL as a last case resort. The simple fact that your doing it at 30 compared to me at 20 makes any arguement you have invalid fxggot. Im up on you.


Cope more soycuck. Will be loosening your girlfriend up tomorrow while you're at the wagie desk. That 'no sex before marriage' thing, sorry but she only tells you that.

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Posted on Jun 21, 2023, 10:49 pm
#35

Quote from: le0csff on June 21, 2023, 10:45:02 PMCope more soycuck. Will be loosening your girlfriend up tomorrow while you're at the wagie desk.


At this point your bitch ass is scrambling  for any comeback you can get. You have yet to hit me with a single insult that actually applies to me. Yet here i am pummeling you as you are indeed a broke. Poor. Pedo. And your way past your do date. Drop the addy i fking dare you. Ill give you the city im staying in rn. See how long you last before i break those legs myself👀

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Posted on Jun 21, 2023, 10:57 pm
#36

Quote from: BestOfLuck on June 21, 2023, 10:49:47 PMAt this point your bitch ass is scrambling  for any comeback you can get. You have yet to hit me with a single insult that actually applies to me. Yet here i am pummeling you as you are indeed a broke. Poor. Pedo. And your way past your do date. Drop the addy i fking dare you. Ill give you the city im staying in rn. See how long you last before i break those legs myself👀

Way past his prime to date at 32? Mmm no my friend. I am 32 and I can assure you, men are at their prime till much later than women

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Posted on Jun 21, 2023, 11:00 pm
#37

Quote from: informationispower on June 21, 2023, 10:57:55 PMWay past his prime to date at 32? Mmm no my friend. I am 32 and I can assure you, men are at their prime till much later than women


I didnt say anything about dating you Muppet. Hes past his prime because hes fkn 30 with 20k in the bank talking about cheaping out on LL because hes a pedo who can no longer cuff up his 16 year old children. Clearly you lack reading comprehension just like himđź’€

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Posted on Jun 21, 2023, 11:03 pm
#38

Quote from: BestOfLuck on June 21, 2023, 11:00:26 PMI didnt say anything about dating you Muppet. Hes past his prime because hes fkn 30 with 20k in the bank talking about cheaping out on LL because hes a pedo who can no longer cuff up his 16 year old children. Clearly you lack reading comprehension just like himđź’€


Why so aggressive?  And you said you are rich thx to family so I would chill

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Posted on Jun 21, 2023, 11:10 pm
#39

Quote from: informationispower on June 21, 2023, 11:03:15 PMWhy so aggressive?  And you said you are rich thx to family so I would chill


My christ people really do lack reading comprehension on this forum. Yes my family is wealthy.  But i also dropped out of hs to work in self contracting BY MYSELF. I used that money to buy real estate that i now rent out and split 50% with my parents. Ill admit that im not the one paying for my surgery but thats only because my family refused to allow me to waste up my money on a procedure like this so they agreed to cover it. I told them id pay for it and if they refused to pay for it initially then id be the one coughing up the dough.

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Posted on Jun 22, 2023, 5:03 pm
#40

I'm still researching this before I reply properly, but I preface first by saying that Dr. Giotikas himself did tell me during my consultation that external tibias were technically the safest methods. Dr. Solomon in Russia also told me via email that external methods were the safest option for limb lengthening.

Also, we haven't talked any about the relative risks of pulmonary/fat embolism with each method, which is obviously a determining factor when trying to quantify the safety of one method versus another. It's important obviously crucial to consider the seriousness of an infection versus other things that can go wrong. As has been pointed out, life threatening infections are extremely uncommon -- maybe they're more uncommon than the risk of death from embolism? We'd have to crunch the numbers. I mean, those that have died have died due to complications with internal methods.

I should also be cautious about putting too much weight on this study the arthritis study that keeps being banded around (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26398436/). When I've checked, I don't have access to the full paper with my University login, and I highly doubt anyone else has read the full paper to be able to really analyse what the results mean. For example, we don't even know what method was used for the lengthening -- what if it was LON? In which case, the arthritis may be attributed to having the patella split, and isn't so relevant to the fully external methods.

It's also not like this paper is the only one to investigate the arthritis issue. Here's a paper which suppose risk of arthritis with femoral lengthening: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8231406/ .


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