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Posted on Jun 21, 2023, 10:03 pm
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Quote from: le0csff on June 21, 2023, 09:48:38 PMYou SHOULD if it's all you can do.

Absolute rubbish, womens looks peak about 16-19, prime is up to about 22, after that the collagen reaper starts hitting them, earlier if they've been on the drink/drugs lifestyle but it comes for them all pretty quick. No one can seriously suggest a 32 year old is hotter than an 18 year old, major fking copium there.


Once again you ignored the rest of my argument and only responded to part of it. But at least we're making progress here, I had to slow things down for you.

If you choose to do it, then at least be informed. It's called informed consent, and is an incredibly important part of medical care. Understand that external tibias only comes with risks. Let's not downplay the risks. Let's not claim its the safest way to do Limb Lengthening. Let's inform prospective patients about the pros and cons of the different methods and devices. What choice YOU make is up to YOU. At least be informed, and not spew false information.

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Posted on Jun 21, 2023, 10:05 pm
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Quote from: le0csff on June 21, 2023, 09:58:09 PMAge of consent in well, just about everywhere outside the cucked USA is between 14-16. Yeah I've banged a 16 year old and a few 17 year olds when I was in my mid 20s, if that makes me a 'pedo' in your book then go right ahead. I'm 31 now and would 100% opt for a 16-21 year old over a 30 year old woman, no doubt about it whatsoever.


Agree that over 30 is mostly leftovers but common dude... 25-26 for the win

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Posted on Jun 21, 2023, 10:09 pm
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Quote from: NailedLegs on June 21, 2023, 10:03:06 PMOnce again you ignored the rest of my argument and only responded to part of it. But at least we're making progress here, I had to slow things down for you.

If you choose to do it, then at least be informed. It's called informed consent, and is an incredibly important part of medical care. Understand that external tibias only comes with risks. Let's not downplay the risks. Let's not claim its the safest way to do Limb Lengthening. Let's inform prospective patients about the pros and cons of the different methods and devices. What choice YOU make is up to YOU. At least be informed, and not spew false information.


I never claimed external tibia was safer, you're knocking up a strawman to argue against. I do not owe anyone an exhaustive discussion of risks and benefits, they can put on their big boy pants and decide for themselves.

But the safest option isn't always available as guess what, the safest option is 3x more money! If the options on the table are: get tibias done when you're 21 for $20k, or spend the next 4 years saving up the money to do internals for $60k and finally getting it done at 25, I'd certainly take the $20k option as it means I'd have 4 extra years of being taller in the prime of my life.

Quote from: informationispower on June 21, 2023, 10:05:27 PMAgree that over 30 is mostly leftovers but common dude... 25-26 for the win


I see no way a 25 year old can be reasonably considered better looking than an 18 year old. That's not to say every single 18 year old mogs every single 25 year old before that strawman is pulled out, just that 18 year olds in general are better looking than when they're 25.

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Posted on Jun 21, 2023, 10:09 pm
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Quote from: le0csff on June 21, 2023, 09:32:33 PMWell I do need to tell you something since you seem to think arguing a point means you MUST be in that particular group that'd be affected. It's not true at all, just requires a bit more perspective than your own back garden.

How many young people (lets say 18-22) have $80k? How many have $50k, even? Not all that many. Hell, not even that many have $20k, but it's a more attainable target than 50 or 80. Saving up for internals over externals involves an opportunity cost i.e. the time spent saving is more time on this earth you're living as a manlet. The kind of jobs one is getting at 18-22 aren't the sort that'll allow you to save a lot of money quickly for the most part, although I'm well aware you're going to come back with a totally unverifiable and irrelevant claim that you did it, just to puff yourself up. I don't care, kiddo.

Externals are obviously a weaker option than internals, but that's really just like saying a Ford is a weaker option than a Ferrari. If you need a car, and you can only afford the Ford, well that's what it'll have to be. No point trying to 'save up' for the Ferrari since that's chasing a future that'll probably never come to pass, and if it does you'll be substantially older and missed out on the main benefits of buying it to begin with.


Yea no. Xrays and before and after photos WILL be posted. And if i have the energy do write a diary i will. Good luck with your LL bucko. We all know youll never be able to afford it you incel  😂

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Posted on Jun 21, 2023, 10:12 pm
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Quote from: le0csff on June 21, 2023, 09:58:09 PMAge of consent in well, just about everywhere outside the cucked USA is between 14-16. Yeah I've banged a 16 year old and a few 17 year olds when I was in my mid 20s, if that makes me a 'pedo' in your book then go right ahead. I'm 31 now and would 100% opt for a 16-21 year old over a 30 year old woman, no doubt about it whatsoever.


LMAO. Bro admitted to being a straight pedo. Dont ever reply to me again you walking fking pussy😂

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Posted on Jun 21, 2023, 10:15 pm
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Quote from: BestOfLuck on June 21, 2023, 10:12:04 PMLMAO. Bro admitted to being a straight pedo. Dont ever reply to me again you walking fking pussy😂


K. Enjoy the fantasies.

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Posted on Jun 21, 2023, 10:22 pm
#27

Quote from: le0csff on June 21, 2023, 10:15:10 PMK. Enjoy the fantasies.


If i recall you said that having 20k  in the bank isnt broke. Yea maybe if your in your twenties. Your fkn 30 years old and only have 20k saved. Not only are you a failure. But you’re probably the biggest fkn dip  nonce ive met. Bozos tryna get LL done so he can comtinue fkn his 16 year old children😂  i left hs early on to work in self contracting, and even I have more money then you in my bank at 20. If thats not a sign of a failed man idk what is. Your broke, so broke that you would rather consider externals over saving, your a literal pedo who clearly cant get the average women no matter what her age is, and you lack any ability to process information which was stated by not just me, but others on this thread. Stay toasted r-tard

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Posted on Jun 21, 2023, 10:25 pm
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Quote from: Body Builder on June 21, 2023, 10:02:28 PMWith internals if there is a deep intramedullar infection it could lead even to amputation.
With externals the only way to have a major infection is to not take any antibiotics for many days while you see your pin site swelling and you suffer from pain. That means you have a butcher as a doctor because in ANY other case he would simoly give you some augmentin or similar antibiotics orally for less than a week and you'll be comoletely fine.
 
Serious infections are NOT a risk for externals in general. In internals on the other hand infections might be more rare but there are multiple times more serious.

And there is no reason to not use external fixators for LL, especiallynwhennwe talk about hexapods.
They are fully weight bearing from the first day of your surgery, they can protect you from any malunion, they are way less invasive than any internal nail, they don't need any major surgery to get it out so you only do one big surgery in contrast to internals and it is way cheaper.
The only drawback.is that they are bulky but most patients get.used to them very easy. And they are almost painless compared to internals.
These are the reasons to.use ilizarovs for LL on tibias. And they are way more than the reasons to use internal nails, especially the obsolete mechanical craps that most of LLers use after stryde went off market.


See, now you're just making up bullcrap. Downright false information. I asked you where you are getting this evidence from. What is your source? You have none. There were two sources posted in this very thread talking about infections, one was the interview with Dr. Rozburch and his interview where he talked about infections, and the studies I posted about infections.

Who or what is your source?

I'm starting to think that you're just trolling at this point. Serious infections are not a risk for externals!? Did you even look at the research? Clearly not!

As long as you have an open wound, you are at a constant risk of infection! This is a basic and fundamental piece of wound care! With externals, every pin sight is an open wound! With a nail, once the wound has healed, which takes approximately one week for your skin to heal and close, you are essentially at zero risk of an infection. Sure, maybe if your nail wasn't sterile you could develop one. But now we are just going to go down the never ending rabbit hole of hypotheticals. The nail used for LON would have the same problem, right? The wires for your frames would have the same problem, right? Let's use logic and reasoning.

"There is no reason to not use external fixators for LL"

What the %*@^!?!? Did you not read ANYTHING else posted here?? Now we are getting into fantasy land with talk like this!

>And they are way more than the reasons to use internal nails, especially the obsolete mechanical craps that most of LLers use after stryde went off market.

Huh!? The STRYDE nail and PRECICE nail are incredibly similar, the major difference being the material they're made out of. One allows full weight bearing, the other does not. The only reason it was taken off the market was due to there being some minor rusting in some cases. And while nothing serious occured because of it, Nuvasive did a voluntary recall. VOLUNTARY RECALL. Besides that, the internal Lengthening mechanism is the same. The PRECICE nail isn't "obsolete mechanical crap", external fixators are!

Who or what is your source? This is a simple question with a simple answer. We all know why you refuse to answer it. It's because you have no proof, no evidence, no sources, you have nothing to backup your argument. Show me the studies that say what you're saying. Show me the Doctors that are saying what you're saying.

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Posted on Jun 21, 2023, 10:26 pm
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Quote from: BestOfLuck on June 21, 2023, 10:22:53 PMIf i recall you said that having 20k  in the bank isnt broke. Yea maybe if your in your twenties. Your fkn 30 years old and only have 20k saved. Not only are you a failure. But you’re probably the biggest fkn dip  nonce ive met. Bozos tryna get LL done so he can comtinue fkn his 16 year old children😂  i left hs early on to work in self contracting, and even I have more money then you in my bank at 20. If thats not a sign of a failed man idk what is. Your broke, so broke that you would rather consider externals over saving, your a literal pedo who clearly cant get the average women no matter what her age is, and you lack any ability to process information which was stated by not just me, but others on this thread. Stay toasted r-tard


Seethe more soycuck.

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Posted on Jun 21, 2023, 10:31 pm
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Quote from: le0csff on June 21, 2023, 10:26:56 PMSeethe more soycuck.


Get that fxggot ass reddit term tf out of my face you
Pathetic manchild. “The legal age of consent is 16🤓” head ass pussy. I make more then you. I own you. Pedo.

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