Stand Taller diary - The first day of the rest of my life (Betz Bone 14.01.2022)

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Hyperlordosis is not related to itband. Just look up hyperlordosis treatment and you will see

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Quote from: sixfootandhalf on February 09, 2023, 05:50:46 PMcongrats on your progress!

Two major questions:

1. Did you get an ITB release ?

2. If not, why not?

They offer it now, and almost everyone does either a soft, or proper ITB release.

Thanks!

I wasn't offered it, so I did not get it. It seems like Betz and Becker started doing right after I did my surgery though.

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Quote from: RealLostSoul on February 09, 2023, 10:00:45 PMHyperlordosis is not related to itband. Just look up hyperlordosis treatment and you will see

You do know that the IT-band connects to the Tensor Faciae Latae, the glutus maximus and the glutus medius. It is all connected dude. Not sure if you have done this surgery and if so did you have issues with tight hip flexors or a tight IT-band? In my case though, all the stretches around these muscles have helped. And even Dr Becker says that an IT-Band release will help a little with duck ass. A tight it band also means tightness in some of the hip flexors and other muscles that affect duck ass. Is a tight IT-band the "main" culprit? No, but it does play a role.

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Quote from: Stand taller on February 10, 2023, 12:45:14 AMYou do know that the IT-band connects to the Tensor Faciae Latae, the glutus maximus and the glutus medius. It is all connected dude. Not sure if you have done this surgery and if so did you have issues with tight hip flexors or a tight IT-band? In my case though, all the stretches around these muscles have helped. And even Dr Becker says that an IT-Band release will help a little with duck ass. A tight it band also means tightness in some of the hip flexors and other muscles that affect duck ass. Is a tight IT-band the "main" culprit? No, but it does play a role.


Wtf we had a conversation one or two weeks ago in that very same thread 

Yea it’s interconnected but the it band itself pulls your legs out mainly. The tik tok girl posture aka duckass comes from tight hip flexor and quads because they pull on the front of the pelvis and capsizes it to the front. Weak glutes also make it harder to pull yourself straight. Think of the pelvis as a triangle that flipped over and that’s your main problem and mine too atm

https://www.sportsinjuryclinic.net/sport-injuries/back/low-back-pain/hyperlordosis

Almost 12cm without it band release is hard. I think you would benefit from an additional one perhaps.

Also a bit unlucky you were in the last set of patients from Betz that did not get it band release before Becker introduced it.

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Almost unianimously, everyone who has had excellent surgeries from Betz on here, have flown to greece for an iTB release, and have commented on the massive difference and improvement due to the ITB release.

Everyone offers it now, and while stretching will always remain so key, ITB releases are essential once you lengthen higher ammounts. There is just way too much raw data to support this.

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Almost unianimously, everyone who has had excellent surgeries from Betz on here, have flown to greece for an iTB release, and have commented on the massive difference and improvement due to the ITB release.

Everyone offers it now, and while stretching will always remain so key, ITB releases are essential once you lengthen higher ammounts. There is just way too much raw data to support this.

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Tight IT bands cause duck ass in the sense that you need to position yourself with your ass out to compensate for them being short to stand up.  But its sort of a choice.  You can stand with super wide legs without duck ass, or legs close together with duck ass.

Tight hip flexors and quads probably cause duck ass that you dont get to choose.  Even if you widen your legs its still there.  I havent experienced this yet but I can definitely see this.

So it just depends how you look at it.  They both cause it in different ways.

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Is the it band also stretched when doing tibias? In theory it should, since the it band goes through the whole leg right?

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Quote from: lessthanavg8300 on February 10, 2023, 07:02:01 PMTight IT bands cause duck ass in the sense that you need to position yourself with your ass out to compensate for them being short to stand up.  But its sort of a choice.  You can stand with super wide legs without duck ass, or legs close together with duck ass.

Tight hip flexors and quads probably cause duck ass that you dont get to choose.  Even if you widen your legs its still there.  I havent experienced this yet but I can definitely see this.

So it just depends how you look at it.  They both cause it in different ways.

No that‘s not how it works. When your it band is tight you are physically unable to close your legs when having them straight (standing or lying), only when you bend your knees it will be possible. Trust me I was at this point where I couldn‘t close my legs and it‘s not a choice at all. 
Duckass that doesn‘t go away no matter what is from quads and hip flexors like you described. And seeing him walk I do think that it band might play a role in his gait especially since he did not get it released.

Quote from: Jaki19 on February 10, 2023, 10:10:11 PMIs the it band also stretched when doing tibias? In theory it should, since the it band goes through the whole leg right?

No it does not. Tibia will result in foot drop (can‘t put your heel down). And that can also cause backpain similar to duckass but it‘s a different root problem. Wide legs /it band issues is not a thing with tibia

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Bud, Im literally doing the lengthening....I understand how it works.  Your ass needs to go out to completely close your legs if you have mild wide legs.  It sounds like you had something more severe.

But as I mentioned and we agree on: hip flexors and quads are definitely what causes duck ass in a way where you cant shift your position to fix it.

If you want to solve duck ass while walking normally with legs close together, you really need to solve both hip flexors and IT bands.