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Stand Taller diary - The first day of the rest of my life (Betz Bone 14.01.2022)

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bloggerdude
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Posted on Jan 15, 2022, 11:39 am
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Quote from: Stand taller on January 15, 2022, 10:45:23 AMI actually measured how much room I would have with 11cm more on an airplane seat on my to Germany. I should have plenty. Luckily I have very short femurs, much shorter than my tibias. My proportions know are very poor and after going 11cm it will be very good and darn close to ideal.

Please quantify it. What is the tibia to femur to torso ratio?

It's not about how much room you will have on an airplane seat (even 6'3" guys have room) but how it will look when you are sitting next to someone naturally 175cm.
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Posted on Jan 15, 2022, 11:52 am
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Ugh...here we are again !
There is so much data n we still have those lenghtening goals in 2022 ..I wonder if they are real at times .
Good luck with ur journey , hope your mind will change trough the process .
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Posted on Jan 15, 2022, 11:57 am
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better to keep it 7.5-8 cm proportion wise and functionality
you can use insoles in a later stage to get the 10 cm that you are aiming
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Stretch
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Posted on Jan 15, 2022, 1:30 pm
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What are the opinions towards splitting the 10cm between the Femur and Tibia. Would this not be the most advantageous long term?
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Posted on Jan 15, 2022, 1:42 pm
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Quote from: Stand taller on January 15, 2022, 10:45:23 AMI actually measured how much room I would have with 11cm more on an airplane seat on my to Germany. I should have plenty. Luckily I have very short femurs, much shorter than my tibias. My proportions know are very poor and after going 11cm it will be very good and darn close to ideal.

Did you have birth defects or similar? It is pretty much unheard of for a normal person to have Tibias longer than femurs.
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Posted on Jan 15, 2022, 2:18 pm
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Quote from: Highest on January 15, 2022, 01:42:15 PMDid you have birth defects or similar? It is pretty much unheard of for a normal person to have Tibias longer than femurs.

Just remembered another patient with Bezt who also explained he had a longer Tibia to Femur ratio, this conversation was held on Cyborg’s YouTube channel.
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Posted on Jan 15, 2022, 4:34 pm
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Hello Standtaller,

Congrats on the beginning of your journey. I myself pulled the trigger 3 months ago. I am/was (I am doing one leg at time) slightly above your height with 167cm. I'm am currently lengthening in Germany as well and have spoken with a few Orthopedists and Ll surgeons in Germany. All of them advised me to not go over the 6cm mark on femurs. My surgeon Dr. Koehne, explicitly advises all of his patients against going over the 6cm mark.

For this reason I am only going for 5cm on femurs, even if this means I will be missing out on a few cm. However, health is always more important than aesthetics and height. Always think long term with these kinds of major life decisions and please reconsider your goal of 11cm.

Betz, while being a very capable surgeon, is notorious for letting his patients overlengthen. One of his patients on this forum wants to shorten his femurs by 3-4cm after doing 11cms with him.

I have met another Betz patient personally, who did 10-11cm, and seen him limb, one year after surgery. Don't make the same mistake. 6-8cm is an incredible height difference as well.  You can always still do tibias at a later point in life.
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Posted on Jan 15, 2022, 10:44 pm
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Quote from: Stretch on January 15, 2022, 02:18:28 PMJust remembered another patient with Bezt who also explained he had a longer Tibia to Femur ratio, this conversation was held on Cyborg’s YouTube channel.

So their natural ratio left them at a high risk of getting arthritis, talk about bad genetics.
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Posted on Jan 15, 2022, 10:58 pm
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Quote from: Highest on January 15, 2022, 10:44:26 PMSo their natural ratio left them at a high risk of getting arthritis, talk about bad genetics.

Are you referring to a greater T to F ratio as I believe there was an article discussing this posted on the forum but I’m not sure if there was a definitive conclusion?

Would be interesting to know if increasing the ratio even slightly may lead to these conditions later on.
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Posted on Jan 16, 2022, 9:19 am
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I believe the literature points out there seems to be a higher presence of arthritis for people who have a higher T to F ratio, likely due to the extra stress on the knee joints. There didn't seem to be any conclusive evidence of whether the inverse was true (ie. a higher F to T ratio). That said, it's always better to be cautious as I'm sure there is likely some effect to the body of having a very high F to T ratio.
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