Luckily my clinic has a height ceiling. Else, people like endomorphisme will go there for cheap Russian surgery. Even if they remove the height ceiling (1.70), it is so painful at that clinic cause the doctors don't like to give painkillers, and I have suffered so many infections, and even have a bent left leg now because my frame collapsed.
Anyway, @FP, what question?? And no, I am still a boy (though I am 25, people think I am 18-19)
The fact that I date guys as well, is a very tricky business..... Trust me, guys are so anal about your looks. ONE SLIGHT imperfection, its a good game. I really don't wanna end up as a giant here and be shunned. Girls are more forgiving, I am sure they can accept you if you are 190 cm and a nice person. I am sure it is not thaaaaaat a turn-off to be 190 cm. It might lead them to think, Hey this guy is kinda too tall for Singapore, but hey, they wont reject you cos of your height. But trust me, guys (bi and gays) are f-ing superficial. You need to be handsome, and even if you are handsome you must be "their type"
Statistical & Anecdotal Proofs that 6 Feet is Ideal, Taller is not ideal
you will just never recover, even at 8 cm you won't recover your pre athletic abilities.
That's why i'am just aiming for 4 cm, because i want to reduce risks, and i know i will lose athletic abilities too.
Quote from: endomorphisme on March 01, 2015, 10:22:16 PMyou will just never recover, even at 8 cm you won't recover your pre athletic abilities.
That's why i'am just aiming for 4 cm, because i want to reduce risks, and i know i will lose athletic abilities too.
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which is why I might stop at 6 cm. even though both doctors insist that 8 cm is fine. I don't trust their superpowers. I am glad I managed to convince them to ignore the height ceiling and I think a height ceiling is there for a reason - to screen people who possibly have body dysmorphic disorder.
I don't wanna be too tall here in Singapore (by parity of reasoning with the surveys in western countries). I like guys. I like my girls. I cant do this. I will be above average in Singapore at 180, probably not feel tall, but at least, I have a good dating life. (and can still dunk a ball)
Quote from: ItsMyLife on March 01, 2015, 09:50:11 PMBut, I am closer to the truth than the other guy. Okay maybe not apology, but at least show me the data that goes THE OTHER WAY 
I feel that this is a pointless debate, because, his mind is already fixed: he is already fixated on the idea that, ah, I want 188 m, and that is ideal. The point is, that is NOT ideal in terms of what women think (every single source says that). It may be the ideal height for him to feel tall, but he has to ACKNOWLEDGE that the DATA says that six feet is the ideal, not taller
Anyway or how, I am creeped out by how many people here apparently have mental issues and have stopped my diary:
http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=1237.324
I sincerely thank you for validating my research, at least.
That's because it is pointless, sorry mate but I think you've got too much time on your hands.
Also, couldn't you tell my first post was sarcastic? I don't agree with you, I think you're wrong.
Quote from: Uppland on March 01, 2015, 10:34:12 PMThat's because it is pointless, sorry mate but I think you've got too much time on your hands.
Also, couldn't you tell my first post was sarcastic? I don't agree with you, I think you're wrong.
If you think I am wrong, what do you have to say to my replies (my counter-arguments)
Quote from: Uppland on March 01, 2015, 10:34:12 PMThat's because it is pointless, sorry mate but I think you've got too much time on your hands.
Also, couldn't you tell my first post was sarcastic? I don't agree with you, I think you're wrong.
in case you forgot, you forgot to rebut me. here is my post again:
Quote from: Uppland on March 01, 2015, 07:49:54 PMWe are now presented with a link to "YouGov" who made a survey that would fit right in at jolly good "HeightDB" except that they didn't ask voters what height they prefered in the opposite sex but rather how tall they themselves would like to be. As this upon closer dissection reveals itself to be inconsistent with previously stated issue (what height women prefer in men) it, unfortuantely, renders this source irreleveant.
Hi Uppland, thanks for your comments. Anyway, re: YouGov, it was an opinion survey which asked women.
I quote:
QuoteOn average, women say a romantic partner 5’3” or shorter is generally too short for comfort, while a partner 6’3” or taller is too tall, and the “ideal” height for a man is 5’11”. The survey also finds that for the average British man, a partner becomes too short at 4’11” and too tall at 6’. The ideal height for a woman, according to the average man, is 5’6”.
Notably, this excludes 10% of men who say there is no such thing as too short and 9% who say no height is too tall. Similarly, there is no "too short" for 4% of women and no "too tall" for 7%.
Re: Dailymail, I have read its articles and some articles were very well written. Either way, it is an opinion poll and this is what the ladies said.
Also, what do you have to say about the academic studies quoted at bodybuilding.com? Surely the academics can't be wrong as well? They asked women their ideal date, and it must have been a proper anthropologic evaluation.
So what do I say? We have opinion poll evidence from women and academic research (yes it was decades ago, but considering the data posted by endomorphisme, we see that the younger generation is at most 0.9 cm taller).
I am now very worried about the fact that when I reach 6 feet, it might be too tall for my country (as endomorphisme pointed out).
I have another point, that more users here voted for six feet as ideal compared to six feet one.
I have so many points, unrebutted, my God. 
I want to be tall and accepted. 
Quote from: ItsMyLife on March 01, 2015, 10:35:07 PMIf you think I am wrong, what do you have to say to my replies (my counter-arguments)
That none of us can provide any statistical proof of what exact height is the most attractive on average down to a single centimeter -because there are no such studie -because it's such a petty question.
Look, you're gonna be fine at 183CM. You'll be tall everywhere in Asia and at the very worst you'll be average in the netherlands. Don't worry about it and don't get so damn anal about your silly internet links. You don't actually think they prove anything do you?
Quote from: Uppland on March 01, 2015, 10:39:15 PMThat none of us can provide any statistical proof of what exact height is the most attractive on average down to a single centimeter -because there are no such studie -because it's such a petty question.
Look, you're gonna be fine at 183CM. You'll be tall everywhere in Asia and at the very worst you'll be average in the netherlands. Don't worry about it and don't get so damn anal about your silly internet links. You don't actually think they prove anything do you?
Because I asked my girl friends and guy friends, and they said 183 is too tall, which is why I stopped shy of 183. I might stop at 180 now, getting worried.
The anecdotal evidence from gay/bi guys and girl friends is confirmed by the evidence. Academic studies, and opinion polls on the internet. I want to trust you and endomorphisme.
My dating life might take a hit, but at least I will feel tall. as I said, that is what I want. I want the counter-evidence as much as you want (I can lengthen to 188 cm or so)
Quote from: Uppland on March 01, 2015, 10:39:15 PMThat none of us can provide any statistical proof of what exact height is the most attractive on average down to a single centimeter -because there are no such studie -because it's such a petty question.
Look, you're gonna be fine at 183CM. You'll be tall everywhere in Asia and at the very worst you'll be average in the netherlands. Don't worry about it and don't get so damn anal about your silly internet links. You don't actually think they prove anything do you?
thanks I am not gonna care what my dates think. Im sure it cant be that bad to be very close to "too tall"...... at least if this forum members have a clear mind of societal realities (I hope so)
in the face of pretty damning evidence, I am still reconsidering to do 1.80 (5 mm more) instead of 1.83. 1.8, I get more girls In my country and guys too(its good being bisexual)..and I get 100% athletic function. If I do 1.83 my dating.love life might take a hit, and I might lose some athletic function (despite the doctors' insistence I wont)
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