minus 2.5 inches. ---------- average --------------- addition of 2.5 inches.
that is it in a nutshell.
at these thresholds opinions become different at exponential speeds/lengths.
Quote from: ForcedPuberty on March 02, 2015, 01:30:36 PMminus 2.5 inches. ---------- average --------------- addition of 2.5 inches.
that is it in a nutshell.
at these thresholds opinions become different at exponential speeds/lengths.
(PS: I am curious what MM and Diso think of this. I have a guys mind, so this is my best guess)
FP, I can only think of one reason why there is a divergence of opinions.
For dating, as is confirmed by multiple sources, 6 feet is ideal. Why?
Most girls will think that 6' is good, not too tall, not short, and definitely above average, definitely trophy boyfriend material.
At 6'2 or so, there is a divergence of opinions. Some girls say: Ah, 6'2 is too tall, nah, I feel like midget (Disobedient and MM). Some girls say: Oh man, 6'2, hes so tall, I will sleep with him. Other girls say: Ah, Most 6'2 guys are doofy-looking (there is a thread on this), so I will vote, 6' is the best, pretty boy type.
THIS IS NOT TO SAY that 6'2 is bad, its ugly, freakish.
6'2 is probably
* a good height to feel tall in western countries
* but, not the ideal height for dating (more girls prefer six feet)
* some girls will still like six feet two guys.
It is really more of a PERSONAL choice.
If I were in the UK, I would ask myself what do I want more? What is my priority? Do I want a better dating life? Or..Do I want to feel tall amongst my peers?
*If I want a better dating life: 6' is ideal. Con: You will not feel very tall
* If I want to feel tall: 6'2 is ideal. Con: You might get less girls, as has been PROVEN (I hesitate to say that 6'2 is freak-ish due to the great number of people being that height, maybe 6'5 or 7 feet) => If you can live with this, then fine, it is your ideal height.
I think this is the best way to reconcile the data that is being thrown at us. (I must admit I am shocked with the data, but this is a better way to reconcile it, than to say the girls are consistently lying through their teeth).
Lets apply the Theoretical situation to Singapore (where average is lower by an inch or two), applying parity of reasoning....
*If I want a better dating life: I will possibly choose 178 or maybe 180 cm. (or even 183 cm(six feet). why? see below)
*If I want to feel tall: definitely 6', 6'1, 6'2. BUT, I might hypothetically get less girls.
**** The problem is, nobody has definitively said what is the ideal height in Singapore, there is no poll. We can only GUESS that the ideal is lower than America/UK. But, I am challenging this assertion! K-pop and Singapore celebrities tend to be about 180+. PERHAPS, 180-183 is the ideal height in Singapore. Perhaps, 180-183 is universally ideal owing to globalisation forces.
Why I choose Six Feet in a country with shorter population (Singapore):
1. I am trying to strike a balance between girls and feeling tall.
2. I want to feel tall. That's more important to me than girls. So I will take the risk, of being abit too tall for some girls.
3. I did not choose 6'2-6'3 or something cause that would surely reduce my dating pool. Dating to me is not important (I easily get girls/guys) but it surely has to be important to some degree.
4. THERE IS A CHANCE that six feet (or maybe 180-183 cm) is ideal in Singapore, since our celebrities, K-pop celebrities, Taiwanese celebrities tend to be six feet. A Korean talkshow also asked girls and it appeared that 180cm was the "minimum height" they would date. This is the globalisation hypothesis, that the ideal height is universally 183 cm.
Perhaps, I am wrong to say that some members here have BDD.
A better way to phrase it: Determine your priorities. What do you want??? If you want to be 188cm, be prepared to take a small dip in your dating life! You will feel tall, and that itself is a good thing. Who knows, if you feel tall, you will have more confidence, and you will have a better dating life. After all, I think confidence is very important.
This is the best way I can think of, to come to an amiable and amicable answer. (Of course, there are more extreme views which posit that girls want to be midgets, but that's a distortion in mindset)
One who brings IQ so many times and puts quotes as signature in order to prove his ideas is only a loser in my eyes and the fact that u're happy having an IQ of 140 proves my theory even more, and before u shut me down, no I have no education, still in college, but u're forcing me to bring my IQ(148) to a forum in order for u to listen me as u're viewing IQ as sort of supremacy. Don't take this as offence but rather as an advice. Btw I agree with 6'0-6'2 being the best range with 6'0 best in Asia as I think Asians don't look at all that dating crap from internet, ranging from sluthate to this forum or bodybuilding, when dating
Quote from: Hallijah on March 02, 2015, 03:36:29 PMOne who brings IQ so many times and puts quotes as signature in order to prove his ideas is only a loser in my eyes and the fact that u're happy having an IQ of 140 proves my theory even more, and before u shut me down, no I have no education, still in college, but u're forcing me to bring my IQ(148) to a forum in order for u to listen me as u're viewing IQ as sort of supremacy
Nope I don't think IQ is supremacy. If you read up further, the single key determinant to success in life(including financial) is not IQ. Students were followed, and the answer is: being hardworking. Of course, you can be hardworking and low IQ, then you might not be successful
Reason why I bring up the high IQ of the other posters, is that their arguments ...... are so logical. I cannot help but wonder they are much more intelligent species.
But I agree with your logic that for generations, six feet has been the ideal. I don't think it will be displaced anytime soon, given that the average height for the younger generation has not increased much (see my other thread).
If you ask MM or anyone who knows me and my posts, I have said that IQ is not the most important. Rather it might be wealth, kindness and how hardworking someone is. My IQ is high but not very high, I know that. But it is enough for me to make a comfortable living and score well in university as long as I have studied hard.
Anyway I do not need to say about my IQ or education, objectively look at the two streams of argument, and it is manifestly clear why I feel that I have such low IQ that I totally cannot understand what the other posters (Meursault and endormorphisme, Uppland) are saying. I am sorry but I am just too dumb. 
Quote from: Hallijah on March 02, 2015, 03:36:29 PM Btw I agree with 6'0-6'2 being the best range with 6'0 best in Asia as I think Asians don't look at all that dating crap from internet, ranging from sluthate to this forum or bodybuilding, when dating
All the data can only lead to the conclusion that 6'0 to 6'1 is good. 6'2 should be fine too, but its pushing the data slightly. As I have said it is all personal preference.
If you are 6'2 in USA/UK you might suffer a slight statistical dip in your dating pool. It might not even be noticeable......But, if you are a LL patient, and become so much more confident at 6'2, then you might have a greater dating pool (compared to if you did NOT have LL).
My point is, as a patient who is 170 cm for instance, all this post about 188 cm being the best, is nonsense. A patient who does LL, should well be advised to stop at 183 instead of 188. I am in the fortunate situation that I started at 174. I will finish my tibia at 182+. If I do another 4-5 cm which Prof bagirov suggests I am already at 186. But I don't wanna do all this. I think it is "too tall", ie, outside of three standard deviations in most parts of Asia (and perhaps maybe my country as well).
I have read the Singapore forums and there is no nonsense like this going on AT ALL, trying to read what girls want (and reading it wrongly). If we look at the data objectively, I think the most sane answer is to say that there is a height ceiling (ceiling effect as the research calls it), and that height ceiling is about 6'1. After that, returns become negative (though it may not be very noticeable, ie, 190 cm tall guys aren't shunned for their height. it might be a slight decrease in dating pools).
Even Asian girls are so much nicer. Some of them (30%) don't even mind guys shorter than themselves. (according to a poll by Straits Times RazorTV)
Quote from: ItsMyLife on March 02, 2015, 03:45:43 PMAnyway I do not need to say about my IQ or education, objectively look at the two streams of argument, and it is manifestly clear why I feel that I have such low IQ that I totally cannot understand what the other posters (Meursault and endormorphisme, Uppland) are saying. I am sorry but I am just too dumb.
6'5 (Scandinavia) might be equivalent to 6'2 in U.S which is equivalent to 6'0 in Asia, so you all were arguing about nothing, but one thing I disagree with, is the male's theory about who a girl would bang, that is just lol
Quote from: musicmaker on March 02, 2015, 03:54:02 PMTrue. It'sMyLife and me were discussing about this the other day, but our posts were deleted. IQ is important, but being hardworking is equally important. Being wealthy is also desirable. And kindness, of course, is something to take into account.
that is just crap, only thing important is never even think of failure, if u mean by kindness leave others to do their work then I agree
Quote from: Hallijah on March 02, 2015, 03:58:02 PM6'5 (Scandinavia) might be equivalent to 6'2 in U.S which is equivalent to 6'0 in Asia, so you all were arguing about nothing, but one thing I disagree with, is the male's theory about who a girl would bang, that is just lol
Yup I have seen that point and mentioned it 
It just appears from the data that 6' to 6'1 appears to be the height most girls statistically like.
In Asia, the figure (I thought) might be 1 inch lower or 2 inches,.
But I theorised (above) that globalisation forces might have caused Asian and Western heights to intersect such that the IDEAL for both asia and west is both 6' (or around there); this is just a guess. But K-pop heights, and Taiwanese pop heights, Chinese pop heights, are an indicator this may be true.
Regardless, I don't think most girls would notice a difference between a 6' guy and a 6'2 guy (since they are way shorter, most of them).
There are many people who are mentally weak or have mental disorders on this forum, there might be a substantial proportion of mentally Ill people among patients
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