The LL hate is worrying me

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Quote from: lessthanavg8300 on May 18, 2023, 12:11:33 PMThis guy thinks covid money and maxing out credit cards is a career.  Thats how dumb he is lmfao.

Take opportunities when they arise. I don't have or want a 'career', you wagies are just worker drones to provide labour and taxes for the system.

Once I've finished up this lengthening (8-9cm like a normal person not your pathetic 3.2cm effort), I'll be going to somewhere nice and warm and cheap, spending my days going out with tinder dates, getting laid, going to bars/clubs now I'd be of an acceptable height for it. Before I started LL, I basically did the same - going round the world meeting up with girls a similar age and having fun together. Basically using the time I still have some looks/youth to get girls who also still have their looks and youth.

Whereas you will spend the years where you look the best sat in an office, building your 'future'. By the time you've built said future, all that's going to be left for you are those girls in their 30s that superior men already banged in their 20s when they were hotter and fresher. You'll miss out on all the stuff that makes life good just so you can have a big number on that ATM screen, absolutely pathetic.

There's plenty of time to be a boring moneymaxer later, once you've aged out of being able to fk prime age girls (as we all will eventually). Sure in the meantime you'll need some, but only enough to support looksmaxing efforts and to sustain your normal day to life day. You wagies making (((investments))), building your pension pots, and saving for mortgages in your 20s make me lol. Society loves you goyims, slaves to the Jew token.

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Quote from: p00293 on May 18, 2023, 12:43:34 PMTake opportunities when they arise. I don't have or want a 'career', you wagies are just worker drones to provide labour and taxes for the system.

Once I've finished up this lengthening (8-9cm like a normal person not your pathetic 3.2cm effort), I'll be going to somewhere nice and warm and cheap, spending my days going out with tinder dates, getting laid, going to bars/clubs now I'd be of an acceptable height for it. Before I started LL, I basically did the same - going round the world meeting up with girls a similar age and having fun together. Basically using the time I still have some looks/youth to get girls who also still have their looks and youth.

Whereas you will spend the years where you look the best sat in an office, building your 'future'. By the time you've built said future, all that's going to be left for you are those girls in their 30s that superior men already banged in their 20s when they were hotter and fresher. You'll miss out on all the stuff that makes life good just so you can have a big number on that ATM screen, absolutely pathetic.

There's plenty of time to be a boring moneymaxer later, once you've aged out of being able to fk prime age girls (as we all will eventually). Sure in the meantime you'll need some, but only enough to support looksmaxing efforts and to sustain your normal day to life day. You wagies making (((investments))), building your pension pots, and saving for mortgages in your 20s make me lol. Society loves you goyims, slaves to the Jew token.

Bud, Im literally retired in my early 30’s.  I won the game, so just give it up.

That aside, theres nothing wrong with being a working man, doing something for society,  and supporting a family.  Theres nothing wrong with hard work.  Its something to be proud of.  And I actually didnt mean to discourage others on this site with my prior post.

My point was that you specifically are just a loser hustler who will be doing the scheme/gig job thing your whole life with no chance of financing (literally one of the only ways poor people lift themselves out of poverty).  Owing a home specifically is by far the #1 way ordinary people get rich because of the massive leverage and no call option from banks unless you cant make a payment.  Thats not available to you anymore because youre an idiot.  Nor is a business financing.  And it sounds like you have no education or career.  By deduction you have little options left.

You sound like a mega incel loser with your traveling the world and going on tinder dates talk.  Good luck with your big dreams.

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Quote from: lessthanavg8300 on May 18, 2023, 01:07:24 PMBud, Im literally retired in my early 30’s.  I won the game, so just give it up.

That aside, theres nothing wrong with being a working man, doing something for society,  and supporting a family.  Theres nothing wrong with hard work.  Its something to be proud of.  And I actually didnt mean to discourage others on this site with my prior post.

My point was that you specifically are just a loser hustler who will be doing the scheme/gig job thing your whole life with no chance of financing (literally one of the only ways poor people lift themselves out of poverty).  Owing a home specifically is by far the #1 way ordinary people get rich because of the massive leverage and no call option from banks unless you cant make a payment.  Thats not available to you anymore because youre an idiot.  Nor is a business financing.  And it sounds like you have no education or career.  By deduction you have little options left.

You sound like a mega incel loser with your traveling the world and going on tinder dates talk.  Good luck with your big dreams.

Dude, the guy is spitting bull  for almost a month. Only an incel virgin who never touched a woman would put fu*ing women as life's top priority and the only thing which gives you joy

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Quote from: hippo60 on May 17, 2023, 10:47:03 PMThat's a good question. I'm not in a relationship right now but I'm definitely going to be upfront about it when I meet someone. Not saying I'm going to bring it up on the first date, but personally I wouldn't be comfortable keeping this away. Some people here think very differently about it, which I think is fair.

Not sure why my girlfriend will receive snarky comments about it. It's not like she's going to tell everyone. But either way, it goes back to my earlier comment - if people aren't supportive then we shouldn't spend time with these people (sometimes easier said than done, I know, but you get my point). These people are going to act that way about something else too, not just LL, so god riddance as far as I'm concerned.

She will probably tell 1 or 2 close people like a bestfriend or a sister. These people will then in turn tell 2-4 people who will then tell 4-8 people etc. so everyone will find out it’s inevitable.

The question then is will your girlfriends social status be dragged down by “dating someone who did LL”. As in its a scandal everyone will be talking about. Or will people find it funny but then forget about it again after a day or two, and you can move on having surpassed a major fear?

As we agree on it. It is best to be brave and be upfront. Because by hiding it too long it can suddenly become an atomic bomb of a secret that can only end badly imo.

I guess I’m just trying to put into words fears of reactions from being truthful, but one has to face this fear or be crumbled by it.

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Quote from: TheDream on May 18, 2023, 02:16:26 PMThe question then is will your girlfriends social status be dragged down by “dating someone who did LL”. As in its a scandal everyone will be talking about. Or will people find it funny but then forget about it again after a day or two, and you can move on having surpassed a major fear?

I think you guys are making way too much out of it. Everyone here is obsessed with LL so we pretend like it's the only topic that exists in the world.

You can read some dairies or check videos of people who were transparent about LL. Initially the conversations revolved around LL, recovery and all of that, but eventually life goes on and nobody thinks about it anymore.

People are obsessed with their own life, self-esteem and insecurities. They just don't care about you that much. That's the reality.

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I agree with hippo60, people aren't really that much invested into our life decisions, like sure some of them might get surprised, worried or shocked but that reaction will barely last as people will just move on with their lives and focus on what really matters for them and their actual life.

We are worried because we spent months upon months thinking about this procedure and the stigma behind it, this is why we might see it as this big of a deal in the eyes of people, but in reality is you're not that special.

I know I might not be the right person to talk since I started this whole worrying thread but once you really think about it you realise how life is too short (no pun intended) to worry about people judging you for making your OWN LIFE better

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Quote from: Hebi on May 17, 2023, 02:18:15 PMhey there everyone, i've been into the idea of LL for awhile now due to my height neurosis and after constant research i found out that this procedure is subjectively worth it for me in the long run.

But something that sometimes bothers me is how much this procedure is made fun of and hated especially in the mainstream communities as of late. And i understand that no one opinion should matter when it comes to my life decisions but it still kinda make me feel like i might be the one in the wrong and my height neurosis is making me accept this type of surgery more than i should.

I might sound stupid for some of you (i understand) but i hope at least i can find a rational opinion on this forum that might help me with my doubts.

It's been long established by Dr's, therapists, etc. that there's no height cutoff when it comes to height neurosis.

If this makes you happy, do it. I started at 179 CM and I'm almost done, ending up 187.5 or so (got a bit extra from legs being straighter as a result of CLL, which sometimes happens).

I can't tell you how happy I am with both my new height, as well as my new proportions (my femurs were stupid short compared to the rest of my body). Do what's best for you, don't worry about what everyone else thinks.

Also, the stigma around this procedure is dying and dying fast. I've been open about this with a lot of people, more than I intended. I found them to be curious, supportive, and positive. Two other people are looking into doing this as a result of hearing about CLL via me, one now very seriously. Look how many Drs are offering it now vs just 5 years ago. In 10 years it will be mainstream.

Good luck on your journey and keep us posted.

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Quote from: lessthanavg8300 on May 18, 2023, 01:07:24 PMBud, Im literally retired in my early 30’s.  I won the game, so just give it up.

That aside, theres nothing wrong with being a working man, doing something for society,  and supporting a family.  Theres nothing wrong with hard work.  Its something to be proud of.  And I actually didnt mean to discourage others on this site with my prior post.

My point was that you specifically are just a loser hustler who will be doing the scheme/gig job thing your whole life with no chance of financing (literally one of the only ways poor people lift themselves out of poverty).  Owing a home specifically is by far the #1 way ordinary people get rich because of the massive leverage and no call option from banks unless you cant make a payment.  Thats not available to you anymore because youre an idiot.  Nor is a business financing.  And it sounds like you have no education or career.  By deduction you have little options left.

You sound like a mega incel loser with your traveling the world and going on tinder dates talk.  Good luck with your big dreams.

You've won nuffin buddyboyo since money isn't really a determiner of success. No doubt you think the likes of Mark Zuckerberg and Bill Gates are massively successful, when in fact all I see is 2 ugly undesirable men with their 3/10 wives. A loser with a lot of money is still a loser.

And on this forum specifically, the currency of success is height gain. In this regard, you're absolutely at the bottom of everyone who has ever posted in the history of this website. 3.2cm, just fking LOL, I've no idea how you keep posting, let alone having that in your signature. There's literal children who do this surgery and have more pain tolerance and determination than you.

Because of your lack of bollocks, you'll be a manlet all your life - no amount of stroking yourself over your house price will change that.

Plenty wrong with 'contributing to society' and 'hard work', but you won't get it, it's like talking to a wall, as you're an indoctrinated slave who falsely believes he's free.

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As to the topic of the thread, you just avoid all these issues by simply not telling your potential partners about it. Just LOL if you'd tell your girlfriend 'hey babe 5 years ago I went and broke my legs to be taller'. There's literally no upside to saying it, and plenty of fking downside.

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Quote from: p00293 on May 18, 2023, 06:29:15 PMYou've won nuffin buddyboyo since money isn't really a determiner of success. No doubt you think the likes of Mark Zuckerberg and Bill Gates are massively successful, when in fact all I see is 2 ugly undesirable men with their 3/10 wives. A loser with a lot of money is still a loser.

And on this forum specifically, the currency of success is height gain. In this regard, you're absolutely at the bottom of everyone who has ever posted in the history of this website. 3.2cm, just fking LOL, I've no idea how you keep posting, let alone having that in your signature. There's literal children who do this surgery and have more pain tolerance and determination than you.

Because of your lack of bollocks, you'll be a manlet all your life - no amount of stroking yourself over your house price will change that.

Plenty wrong with 'contributing to society' and 'hard work', but you won't get it, it's like talking to a wall, as you're an indoctrinated slave who falsely believes he's free.

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As to the topic of the thread, you just avoid all these issues by simply not telling your potential partners about it. Just LOL if you'd tell your girlfriend 'hey babe 5 years ago I went and broke my legs to be taller'. There's literally no upside to saying it, and plenty of fking downside.

Bud I'm nearly 5'9 now, if you want to call that a "manlet" to desperately try and stretch an insult because you have nothing else, you can go for it.

"Plenty wrong with 'contributing to society' and 'hard work'"  You're a real piece of sh!t thats for sure.  Somehow I dont think life is going to work out the way you imagine it.  Going to be absolutely shocked when you find out girls dont want a broke loser without a career who only cares about going as vertical as he can in a twink body.

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Quote from: uponly on May 18, 2023, 06:20:01 PMIt's been long established by Dr's, therapists, etc. that there's no height cutoff when it comes to height neurosis.

If this makes you happy, do it. I started at 179 CM and I'm almost done, ending up 187.5 or so (got a bit extra from legs being straighter as a result of CLL, which sometimes happens).

I can't tell you how happy I am with both my new height, as well as my new proportions (my femurs were stupid short compared to the rest of my body). Do what's best for you, don't worry about what everyone else thinks.

Also, the stigma around this procedure is dying and dying fast. I've been open about this with a lot of people, more than I intended. I found them to be curious, supportive, and positive. Two other people are looking into doing this as a result of hearing about CLL via me, one now very seriously. Look how many Drs are offering it now vs just 5 years ago. In 10 years it will be mainstream.

Good luck on your journey and keep us posted.

Thanks man, comments like that are a huge relief when your doubts gets stronger. I've read couple your posts as well in the past and seeing you proud of your new appearance is genuinely making me smile, i'm pretty sure after this whole thing you will be appreciating things even more and your confidence will skyrocket not just because of your new height but because of the sheer of determination you had through this whole process which will definitely help you in different aspects of your NEW LIFE. Blessings man!