The LL hate is worrying me

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Quote from: Hebi on May 17, 2023, 04:47:55 PM@lessthanavg300 hey man, been reading your diary for awhile and learned a lot of stuff (and congrats on your new height 👏🏼)

And I 100% understand why you would find it ridiculous at my initial height as many people have it way worse than i will ever have, but as spoiled as i might sound but my height has caused me a lot of issues throughout the years and it played a huge role in my Persistent Depressive Disorder since height is the main thing that i think about in my life (even though i may have objectively worse problems, my height for some reason worries me more) and even though i've been seeking a therapist for 3 years now and ngl medication definitely helped me relax a bit but i always find myself in an endless cycle of just feeling bad about my height which been altering my social life for awhile now.

Again i genuinely agree that some people may be acting like crybabies complaining about their heights at certain acceptable sizes but sadly height dysphoria is a real thing at no matter what height you are. Just like how depression is a real thing no matter how rich and successful you are (i hope that puts my situation a little bit more into perspective)

Welp, you do you.  If this is what it takes then this is what it takes.  Wish you best of luck.

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I totally understand how the comments you see online can be intimidating. The thing is, there is a lot of hate online (unfortunately in this forum too!) towards a lot of stuff, not just LL. A lot of the comments are from people who don't know anything about the procedure and think you're going to be crippled for the rest of your life etc. Need to remember that context.

I can tell you from my own personal experience that the feedback I received so far about the surgery has been amazing! People have been very supportive about it, and at "worst" they just didn't understand why I did it, but that's pretty much it. I was also initially a bit worried about the reactions (even tho I always planned to talk about it and didn't intend to try to hide it), but now I'm a lot more comfortable.

Another thing that works for you is your age. In your early 20s you might still pull off the "late growth spurt" and not even mention LL to anyone outside close family/friends etc.

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Quote from: p00293 on May 17, 2023, 04:46:11 PMBecause maybe he's not a giant pussy like you, and will be able to do a respectable amount like 7-9cm, rather than a lol worthy 3.2cm. That'll certainly improve his life to get to 6ft.

I'm going to laugh my ass off if you end up crippled.  With your mentality you probably will be.  If it works out youll just be a taller and more slender power bottom twink... with severe financial issues because you think you're smarter than the financial system lmao.  Typing this from my fully paid off 1.3 million home and savings. Enjoy poverty and that wage slave cage for the rest of your life since you destroyed any chance of getting a business loan or a home loan to build equity and become independent.  Unless you plan on giving up that twink ass on the street this is your future.  Heard girls love that + a 12 year old boy body.  Toodles.

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Quote from: hippo60 on May 17, 2023, 08:44:07 PM I can tell you from my own personal experience that the feedback I received so far about the surgery has been amazing! People have been very supportive about it, and at "worst" they just didn't understand why I did it, but that's pretty much it. I was also initially a bit worried about the reactions (even tho I always planned to talk about it and didn't intend to try to hide it), but now I'm a lot more comfortable.

I wonder what the consequences are in a relationship / family though. Will you tell your girlfriend and children that you had height surgery? Will the kids at school bully him if they find out? Will your girlfriend receive snarky comments if people find out her boyfriend did it?

I mean obviously the answer is you have to tell them. Because the tension rise from keeping something like that a secret is like an atom bomb. If a girl found out you hid that from her shed feel like you tricked her.

Anyways that was more me rambling than an actual question

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Quote from: TheDream on May 17, 2023, 09:20:27 PMI wonder what the consequences are in a relationship / family though. Will you tell your girlfriend and children that you had height surgery? Will the kids at school bully him if they find out? Will your girlfriend receive snarky comments if people find out her boyfriend did it?

I mean obviously the answer is you have to tell them. Because the tension rise from keeping something like that a secret is like an atom bomb. If a girl found out you hid that from her shed feel like you tricked her.

Anyways that was more me rambling than an actual question

For a gf or wife I really think it depends on how much you do.  If you did 6cm I dont see the issue because your natural height variation when born is within that range.  Like you might have a brother taller or shorter by 6cm easily.  But if you did quad and are like 12cm taller youre literally a different person than represented by a long shot.  Hard to say.  I agree with you but also think it depends.

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Precisely why I hide it from everyone.

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Bro youre 1.76m. Get some hobby’s and a gf or something.  LL is lot for you

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Quote from: hippo60 on May 17, 2023, 08:44:07 PMI totally understand how the comments you see online can be intimidating. The thing is, there is a lot of hate online (unfortunately in this forum too!) towards a lot of stuff, not just LL. A lot of the comments are from people who don't know anything about the procedure and think you're going to be crippled for the rest of your life etc. Need to remember that context.

I can tell you from my own personal experience that the feedback I received so far about the surgery has been amazing! People have been very supportive about it, and at "worst" they just didn't understand why I did it, but that's pretty much it. I was also initially a bit worried about the reactions (even tho I always planned to talk about it and didn't intend to try to hide it), but now I'm a lot more comfortable.

Another thing that works for you is your age. In your early 20s you might still pull off the "late growth spurt" and not even mention LL to anyone outside close family/friends etc.

Exactly, the scary comments that i come across here and there makes me doubt every piece of information i gathered about LL, which you well explained how most of people don't really know anything about this procedure as much as us people who are obsessed with our height and made ton of research or i might say former obsessed (like you haha, congrats on that).

And quite honestly it's pretty impressive how you had complete support from people around you, that makes me extremely jealous ngl since i doubt my entourage will be fine with it but hey we do it for our own acceptance to ourselves at the end of the day.

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Quote from: Hebi on May 17, 2023, 10:14:48 PMExactly, the scary comments that i come across here and there makes me doubt every piece of information i gathered about LL, which you well explained how most of people don't really know anything about this procedure as much as us people who are obsessed with our height and made ton of research or i might say former obsessed (like you haha, congrats on that).

And quite honestly it's pretty impressive how you had complete support from people around you, that makes me extremely jealous ngl since i doubt my entourage will be fine with it but hey we do it for our own acceptance to ourselves at the end of the day.

You need to understand these people are just noise, that's all! You have to learn to ignore it and focus on what's matter. To be fair, even in this forum there are people who say complete nonsense sometimes so I'd be cautious. I assume you haven't done a consultation so you should probably do that with a top doctor which will make you feel comfortable about LL (and if not - maybe he's not the right doctor).

Just like you I didn't know whether I'll have that support, there is only one way to find out. I didn't tell people before (except very close family and 1-2 friends), only after the surgery. I'll be honest tho, if people aren't supportive of you doing it - you should reconsider your relationship with them. For me it's a sign of a deeper problem, but that's my view and I know it's not very common here (which is fine).

Quote from: TheDream on May 17, 2023, 09:20:27 PMI wonder what the consequences are in a relationship / family though. Will you tell your girlfriend and children that you had height surgery? Will the kids at school bully him if they find out? Will your girlfriend receive snarky comments if people find out her boyfriend did it?

I mean obviously the answer is you have to tell them. Because the tension rise from keeping something like that a secret is like an atom bomb. If a girl found out you hid that from her shed feel like you tricked her.

Anyways that was more me rambling than an actual question

That's a good question. I'm not in a relationship right now but I'm definitely going to be upfront about it when I meet someone. Not saying I'm going to bring it up on the first date, but personally I wouldn't be comfortable keeping this away. Some people here think very differently about it, which I think is fair.

Not sure why my girlfriend will receive snarky comments about it. It's not like she's going to tell everyone. But either way, it goes back to my earlier comment - if people aren't supportive then we shouldn't spend time with these people (sometimes easier said than done, I know, but you get my point). These people are going to act that way about something else too, not just LL, so god riddance as far as I'm concerned.

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Quote from: Jaki19 on May 17, 2023, 10:02:56 PMBro youre 1.76m. Get some hobby’s and a gf or something.  LL is lot for you

I remember someone writing something along the lines of, This forum is divided by two types of people (actual short people who are discriminated against and really needs this surgery to improve their lives) and (average people who wants to get rid of their height neurosis and just wanna move on with their lives), you could tell i'm from the latter group and there should be nothing wrong with it as dr paley himself mentioned how even above average people themselves seek for LL since height is relative and usually perceived by how you look compared to your environment.

Source: https://paleyeurope.com/en/what-do-we-treat/cosmetic-limb-lengthening/