TIBIA LENGTHENING IN MOSCOW WITH DR BAGIROV

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Quote from: crimsontide on July 27, 2014, 02:36:07 PMdr bagirov is against lon too, and internal, etc, etc

dr bagirov is a good dr, but he is against a lot of things that  most others drs are for

i don't like to say this... but swedens issue was going to sarin... but even then, he says he should be fully recovered... i'm not into martial arts, so that aspect wouldn't mean much to me... i enjoy riding  motor bikes

medium seems fine to me... again,,, you can expect some loss of agility if you lengthen 4 cm or 3 even.... i'm not convinced that theres much of a difference to be honest....   medium can chime in, but from everything i've read, he seems content and able to do things he did before

rgkey.... im not surprised he has  some issues running and walking, but  i doubt its primarily because of the amount he lengthened.... his right leg is severely bent.... it almost looks like the bone consolidated at a 45 degree angle... it looks painful... and he  did external only...


I'm even considering latn now, as the recovery time is dramatically quicker with lon/latn... something like .8 months per cm for recovery time.... it actually increases bone regenerate...though knee pain is making wary...

No, the loss of agility for a patient who 3 or 4 cm will be significantly less noticeable compared to someone who lengthens 7 or 8 cm, thats just scientific fact. Why are you in denial about this? You chose to lengthen more but there are definite drawbacks to it, permament ones.

Sweden has said himself that Sarin did a good job with his surgery, and that most of his problems are due to lengthening to much, he recommends lengthening 5 cm at most for tibias.

In terms of Rgkey, you cant really use his case for your argument since he is so early in recovery phase. One thing we do know is that if he did less lengthening he would be far more mobile at this point.

Also it doesnt really matter if Latn or Lon improves recovery speed per cm, because those methods are designed to remove the frames when lengthening phase is done regardless of the callus regen at that point. And you will either need to keep the nail inside forever or remove them after a year. Also, it will still take a lot of time with 7 cm until you can walk normally after frame removal and nail insertion.

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Quote from: Medium Drink Of Water on July 27, 2014, 02:57:18 PMThe agility loss is a matter of physics.  Longer things are harder to lift up and move around, which goes for legs or any other object.

Yes, which basically means the longer you make the leg, ie the more cms you add, the more agility you lose.

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It's not that bad though.  I've got maybe 80-90% of my previous agility.

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if i got nail inserted this week, ill be walking fine by oct.... instead of    being in agony with frames..... though my primary concern is   getting the release

I'm about 90 kilo now or so, maybe a little less

i like sweden, but  we know dr sarin is a hack..... and sweden is now talking about getting femurs done.... how bad can his issues be if he is thinking about  doing this again

  i'm not a dr, but i can  say with some confidence, that rgkey's severely bent leg   is harming his walking ability.....

if lath  decreases  recovery time to around.8 months per cm, that sounds ok to me, to be honest.... though I'm still hesitant because of knee pain

medium, sweden,.. anyone that has gotten lon or lath... please post here how your knees fail, and if you do have psi, how bad is it, and if you regret  doing it instead of external

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When I walk, I can actually feel where the scar tissue is, where the patellar tendon was cut and stretched open.  It gives me the sensation of stiffness in my knees.

When I kneel on a hard surface, the nerves below the kneecap, right where the insertion scars are, are hypersensitive and I actually feel pain there.

If these two problems sound okay to you, then proceed with LATN.  Personally I wish I'd done external-only.  Since external-only involves less surgery, I might have been able to bargain with the institute to let me stay a few extra months there for free.  Although all I wanted was OUT OF THAT HOSPITAL as soon as I possibly could at the time, now I wish I'd endured a few more months of discomfort in order to have avoided those two permanent problems.

How much standing have you been doing lately?  If you really start working hard with standing and weight-bearing, you might not even need the release.

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so you when walk, you feel it, but no pain??? but on your knees, you actually feel  pain?


have done a little standing.. ill try more now... though  can't turn my walker  on my toes

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That's right.

Don't worry about turning your walker.  Just stand and stay still.  Maybe bend forward a little at the waist and let your head hang.

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gonna try that..... feel so achey... ugh.... sucks... but i guess its normal

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after talking with dr franz, i'm definitely  going to get plating, instead of nails... if i get frames off soon

the knee pain issues with the nails, it's just too risky in my opinion.... i don't wanna risk permanent knee pain... i forgot to ask him though if the laying has to be removed eventually

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Are you coming to SA?