So you guys primarily will say how you will not be the same after LL. You both did tibias from my understanding. So in the Rozbruch video of the guy who did 3inches on his femur, he ends up being able to play basketball again less than 11 months after his surgery WITH his rods still in.
Do you both believe this testimony and think that it's realistic that he would be back playing with full knee ROM and little to no complications? Or do you feel it's more advertising and that he probably still experiences pain and will still experience pain until the rod removal and maybe forever?
I just want to know both of your opinions on the matter as that is an encouraging video to watch but happy testimony's always make me skeptical. I would have inboxed you guys but I think it would be informative for the community to hear your opinions.
Quote from: Body Builder on June 04, 2018, 10:34:46 PMWhat other issues with my appearance do I have?
I am completely ok with my appearance generally except from my height which is just ok right now (not bad nor good) and I truly believe that when I reach 5.11 with another LL everything on dating will be much easier for me.
Just that, nothing more or less.
From the pics you say you could only see my thin (from muscle atrophy due to LL) legs with the monorails on, nothing else about my body or my facial characteristics. So what are my flaws that you've seen stupid liar? I have 47cm arms with less than 14% fat and a good face but I dont care to persuade you. I am just telling your lies about things you camt know as my pics showed nothing except from my tibias!
Nothing more than that!
And about my love life, I was almost never without a gf and I had sxx with at least 3x more women tham the average man (who had sxx with about 10 women in all of his life) and I am not even 30 yo.
And the absolutes you say I am talking about is that women grant a great importance to a man's height, so much that make it the number 1 trait in a man's appearance, a little above facial characteristics.
So before saying bs for someone that you dont know and tries to help fellow LL'ers- future LL'ers with his knowledge and experience about LL, think better and be more specific. Otherwise you are just a pathetic hater who insults without real evidence and have no life as your almost only post was about insulting me with lies.
So you did LL for women? (Not judging you just wondering)
Quote from: extremis on June 05, 2018, 02:21:11 AMThat doesn't follow at all. The other guy can still kick high. The LL kickboxer cannot.
Aside from that, there's still the matter of the LL kickboxer having weaker connective tissue, which is likely to slow down his movements significantly, not to mention his ability to produce force spontaneously
Another one of your comic book daydreams. Lmao. I can't help but laugh whenever I see these power fantasies you have. I'm instantly reminded of this:
Lmao. There is no "reach advantage". Your legs are longer, which means your head is higher. That's it. Your arms are still the same length. After your surgery, there are two hypothetical possibilities as to the physique of your "opponent" in your delusions of movie superhero street fights:
Scenario 1: The other guy is equally as tall as or taller than you. Then the overwhelming likelihood (99%+) is that he is naturally that tall (i.e. not an LL patient like you), which also means that statistically speaking, it is also overwhelmingly likely that he has a larger wingspan, since he naturally grew into his height during his development period and is thus highly likely to have at least a neutral (but probably positive, since that is the tendency in humans) ape index.
Since your height is either equal to or less than his, but his wingspan is greater, your opponent has the reach advantage, not you.
Scenario 2: Your opponent is shorter than you. I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you're not so pathetic that you're planning to spend $100,000+ and years in recovery time just to fight men who are shorter than you are right now, so we're going to go ahead and assume this hypothetical "shorter" opponent is no shorter than your original pre-LL height (5'6"). In that case, their wingspan will most likely be either equal to yours (if they're 5'6") or slightly greater than yours (if they're over 5'6" but still shorter than your post-LL height).
In that case, it will be difficult for them to attack your head,but it will be equally difficult for you to attack their heads, because your wingspans is exactly as short as his is (in the best case, when the opponent is 5'6"). The simple fact that your legs are longer isn't what gives you a reach advantage. A taller man's reach advantage over a shorter man comes from their larger wingspan, which allows them to make contact with a shorter opponent's body before the shorter opponent can make contact with him.
So, you don't have a reach advantage in this case either.
The ONLY advantage your longer legs would give you is that you wouldn't have to tilt your head up to look the other guy in the eye (which exposes your chin), and if you're fighting a shorter man (I would hope you're not planning to do this), you would be able to tuck your chin to look him in the eye while he would have to tilt his up.
They are, but this won't really hit you until after your surgery when you're practicing kung fu tricks in front of one of the many full body mirrors you no doubt have at home and you realize that your legs feel like they weigh a ton and your footwork has slowed down and is clumsier than before
In people who naturally grew into their height and have a normal Center of Mass, yes.
Um, no. Both these statements are wrong.
First, Force is the product of mass and acceleration, not velocity:
F = m * a = m * (dv/dt)
Where acceleration is defined as the change in velocity over a time interval (dv/dt). We can rewrite this equation to give us the acceleration produced on an object by a given Force:
a = F/m (1)
So the acceleration on an object is proportional to the magnitude of the Force acting upon it and inversely proportional to the object's mass. That is, the greater the object's mass, the less a given amount of Force will accelerate it.
One of the four equations of kinematics allows us to calculate an object's final velocity given its initial velocity, its acceleration, and the time interval:
vf = vi + a * t (2)
Substituting our earlier definition for a into this equation, we have
vf = vi + (F/m) * t (3)
Here we can see clearly that as m (your mass) increases, the product of the entire term [(F/m) * t] decreases, thus the entire sum (which is equal to vf) decreases. In real-world terms, it means that when a Force of a given magnitude acts on an object (in this case your body), its final velocity goes down as its mass increases.
We can put this in a much simpler way using Energy.
Kinetic energy is calculated as
K = 1/2 * m * (v2) (4)
Then, we can solve for the velocity v given an object's amount of kinetic energy and its mass:
v = sqrt([2 * K] / m) (5)
And we can once again see in no uncertain terms that a given amount of energy can produce less velocity (change in distance over time; that is, work) as an object's mass increases.
Since your connective tissue is weaker after the surgery than before, it's irrational to conclude you'd be able to produce more force after the surgery than before it; in fact, you're much more likely to be able to generate LESS force after the surgery, since your distended connective tissue is now trying to accelerate a greater amount of bone mass
Second, Power is defined as
P = F * v (6)
Remember that we proved through both (2) and (5) that the velocity of your post-surgery body parts will be SMALLER than it was before the surgery, not greater. Therefore the Power you generate will be smaller as well.
I recommend you spend less time reading comic books/watching superhero movies and fantasizing about being a kungfu secret agent badass and pick one of these up at your local bookstore ASAP
I see you've mentioned that you can't afford to lose alot of the physical ability you have with LL. So are you planning on waiting for an alternative, or are you feeling that LL is most likely the only option at this point, if anything at all?
If the first option, what do you think the timeline is realistically for a more preferable method that allows us to maintain more of our athletic ability?
Quote from: Body Builder on June 05, 2018, 12:12:19 AMMy first LL was to make me feel normal socially and ok in my everyday life. Not only women, anything (university and then job etc). At 1.68 and generally under 1.70 you are simply too short for many other people to take you seriously.
Now I dont have that problems but still I am not tall enough for many women as most of them nowadays date guys 5.11 and taller. So yes, dating with random women is not very easy for an 5.85 man even though I had good looks and a muscular body (regardless what the madman who doesnt seen me never wrote) and thats the main reason for my second LL.
To have the social benefit of a taller than average man.
I know what you mean about the height. I honestly think with how much people fabricate height that 5'11" is most likely to be perceived as 6'1" in the US. Especially with the athlete listings and fabrication of men and women lying about their height online. Since so many watch sports and even high schools list their players as taller they carry those heights to their everyday life and skew the perception of height.
I could be wrong but a legitimate 5'11" with an over 6' wingspan looks fairly tall. Might just be because i'm short lol.
I have been doing a bit of a test in the last couple months. Just casually asking friends and some family their height. I legitimately think over 90% of them were wrong, and maybe 50% of those 90% didn't even realize they were wrong. I have a friend who is 6'2" on his license but he's only 3.5-4 inches taller than myself and i'm 5'7" upon waking up lol.
Anyone that wants to do LL at 5'11" is a legitimate retard. 5'11" WITH FULL athletic ability??! That's an ideal height with ideal ROM and athletic ability. Most people on the earth would be more than satisfied with that. They'd be thrilled.
Best of luck to you bodybuilder. If we're ever around the same area doing LL with STRYDE we should get in a lift together since we'll be able to weight bear 
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