Wannabegiants tibial lengthening in Moscow, Dr. Bagirov

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Quote from: RGKEY on July 24, 2014, 01:15:20 PMAwesome new man!!! Yeah taking off frames is not a big deal im sure if he says he can then he can!))) My inly concern is the xray. Make sure your doctor in russia also look at it before removing frames

Yes for sure! we agreed that i need to show the x-rays to Bagirov as well and need his allowance to remove the frames, but two doctors opinions are better than one 

Btw this swedish orthpedic knew a method similar to what Barinov did with you Rgkey, he said that if the x-ray is good, then the next time i meet him and the next x-ray is also good, he wil be able to remove some pins so the weight is transferred onto my bones instead of the pins, while keeping the outer pins and the frame so the bone cannot bend. This will speed up consolidation and remove a lot of the risk.

If i went to Bagirov, i would have to remove one frame at a time, with about a week in between, and also walk with crutches for maybe 2 weeks after both are gone and not put much weight on the frame free legs in the beginning. With this other method the risk will be much lower.

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can you post pics? not of the x ray but your body please please

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Quote from: Tall on July 24, 2014, 01:18:16 PMAwesome update. Congrats on making it this far! If you get the chance, could you ask your Swedish doctor if Dr. Bagirov did indeed fixate your fibula? It would be awesome to know for sure if he does it or not.

Also, at this point, just how well and how far are you able to walk unaided? Is there still any reliance on crutches? How normally are you able to live your life with the frames now?

Thank you yes i will ask him but im almost 100% sure he did fixate them :p my legs wouldnt be so straight otherwise, their angle looks identical to before the surgery, almost straighter but im not sure :p

Also, after laying down for a while or sitting, i almost dont need any warm up any longer before i can start walking quite smoothly, they used to be stiff for the first 10 steps or so, but now i maybe feel a bit stiff for the first 4 steps or less. So i dont need the walker at all anymore.

In fact i walked from the car into the hospital with no aid, i was quite slow of course and the terrain is not even like the floor inside my home but it still went well 

I can pretty much take care of myself like i used to pre surgery, only im way slower of course. And i only have like 1 pair of pants that i can hide the frames in convincingly and still look somewhat "fashionable" (with that i mean not looking like a bum). So im still very limited because i cant see my friends and stuff.. i need to keep it secret, of course if someone saw me i would use the bow leg correction explanation but i rather not have to tell them anything  :p

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Quote from: Hallijah on July 24, 2014, 01:51:02 PMcan you post pics? not of the x ray but your body please please

hmm i really dont want too.. im very paranoid about stuff about me being on the internet :p i know there is a minimal risk anyone i know will see it and know it is me but i rather not.

I can tell you this, i like my proportions now better than before. My arms used to be to long compared to my legs, so i kind of looked like a lower primate when i was wearing thick sweaters with the sleeves all the way down. it didnt look proportional, but in shorts and t-shirts it didnt look so bad.

Now i can already tell i will look better in all my clothes, and i will be confident enough to wear some other styles which i didnt before 

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You are 5'10 now right? How does it feel.
Did it cure your height neurosis.
Like you can just put on your shoes and go out the door and unless a 6'4 dude comes along you wont even think about height?.

Also you have on your fixators still. Why did you not get the metal stick inserted?

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Quote from: Slim_tim on July 24, 2014, 02:49:23 PMYou are 5'10 now right? How does it feel.
Did it cure your height neurosis.
Like you can just put on your shoes and go out the door and unless a 6'4 dude comes along you wont even think about height?.

Also you have on your fixators still. Why did you not get the metal stick inserted?

Yeah, im 5'10 or 178 cm during the day (close to 179 in the morning, drops to slightly below 178 in the evening)

And yeah it did cure my height neurosis, although i have to agree with Sweden that it is still common to run into some dudes that dwarf you, but there are more people that are smaller or same size as me when you account for girls, i maybe saw one girl at the hospital who might have been taller than me but it looked like she had some heel. (Karolinska is the name of the hospital and its huge and lots of people around)

Im also slightly bothered by my sitting height which is below average for my height (ca 89 cm) when sitting next to bigger dudes, although it doesnt look bad at all in terms of proportion, my torso looks a good length, i think my low sitting height is because of my thin groin bones. But most people dont sit straight anyway so i know i will be able to neglect this small issue.

also im still skinny as f**k so i bet the feeling of being small will be even more insignificant when i bulk up, but im very happy with the result already.

I chose to do external only because of better recovery potential and not needing 2 more surgeries, also to save a lot of money and avoid the risk of knee pain. Plating also requires extra money and surgery and i dont think it is reliable enough to try it, especially not at this point when i dont have much time left in frames anyway :p

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Quote from: Wannabegiant on July 24, 2014, 03:13:33 PMYeah, im 5'10 or 178 cm during the day (close to 179 in the morning, drops to slightly below 178 in the evening)

And yeah it did cure my height neurosis, although i have to agree with Sweden that it is still common to run into some dudes that dwarf you, but there are more people that are smaller or same size as me when you account for girls, i maybe saw one girl at the hospital who might have been taller than me but it looked like she had some heel. (Karolinska is the name of the hospital and its huge and lots of people around)

Im also slightly bothered by my sitting height which is below average for my height (ca 89 cm) when sitting next to bigger dudes, although it doesnt look bad at all in terms of proportion, my torso looks a good length, i think my low sitting height is because of my thin groin bones. But most people dont sit straight anyway so i know i will be able to neglect this small issue.

also im still skinny as f**k so i bet the feeling of being small will be even more insignificant when i bulk up, but im very happy with the result already.

I chose to do external only because of better recovery potential and not needing 2 more surgeries, also to save a lot of money and avoid the risk of knee pain. Plating also requires extra money and surgery and i dont think it is reliable enough to try it, especially not at this point when i dont have much time left in frames anyway :p

The height i want is 5'11 and maybe 6'0 if my legs can take it. But at 5'11 i don't want to feel discriminated anymore from society, that wont happen once i reach 5'10ish status right?

Yeah there is always gonna be dudes that are 6'4. Just like you are not gonna have the best body or face. But the "height" problem is gone so you are in the game again do you feel that now? like you can compete and actually get somewhere in life or are you still limited by your stature, like still psychologically hindered.

yeah i noticed that too with friends it's like they are overall massiver than me. But not by much. I and a 6'1ish friend was sitting on the floor or whatever together and his look when he noticed we was pretty much the same height mind f**ked him alot. Like he realised his Bigness is tributed by his legs and not his "massive" alpha frame. We smaller guys have a more gracefull waist bones and stuff like that. So we look more elegant than those taller clumsier people with a thick waist. But they do get another 4 cm increase from that though.

But are not the outtake of the inserted rod for free? if it costs money how much do you think it was?
Also you don't have to take away the rod at all you can leave it in there.

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Quote from: Slim_tim on July 24, 2014, 03:27:08 PMThe height i want is 5'11 and maybe 6'0 if my legs can take it. But at 5'11 i don't want to feel discriminated anymore from society, that wont happen once i reach 5'10ish status right?

Yeah there is always gonna be dudes that are 6'4. Just like you are not gonna have the best body or face. But the "height" problem is gone so you are in the game again do you feel that now? like you can compete and actually get somewhere in life or are you still limited by your stature, like still psychologically hindered.

yeah i noticed that too with friends it's like they are overall massiver than me. But not by much. I and a 6'1ish friend was sitting on the floor or whatever together and his look when he noticed we was pretty much the same height mind f**ked him alot. Like he realised his Bigness is tributed by his legs and not his "massive" alpha frame. We smaller guys have a more gracefull waist bones and stuff like that. So we look more elegant than those taller clumsier people with a thick waist. But they do get another 4 cm increase from that though.

But are not the outtake of the inserted rod for free? if it costs money how much do you think it was?
Also you don't have to take away the rod at all you can leave it in there.

Yeah you ure right, i dont feel phychologically hindered anymore, i feel like there are so many hobbies and stuff i want to try now when i know i wont be judged right away for my height. Also just knowing that probably 40% more girls are within my options now is awesome.

Im gonna train MMA and  bulk up as mentioned. Then im going to be overall more active in social events and take my studies more seriously. Then soon enough i will aim for that perfect 1 trophy girl (lol il probably be satisfied with an 8 but i might get luckier than that), Ive scored with 8s and above but very rarely, and in my case they have never wanted anything serious lol..most likely because they thought i didnt have enough social value.

I feel like i can become one of those people in the upper social circle, of course excluding famous people who are unreachable unless i made it somehow (unlikely since so many of my youthful years where wasted on being being a nobody, its hard to catch up and go further)

At 5'10 i doubt anyone will call you short unless its a by 6'4 dude or you live in the netherlands where girls might have expectations of a 6 feet guy minimum.

LON or LATN are generally a lot more expensive than external only, and the place i went too only offers external only, and for that "low" price you wont be able to get LON or LATN. I also dont want anything left in my bones, i want to be as close to normal as possible when this is done, even if you dont feel the rods, me knowing they are there will still affect me.

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How do your tibia feel now compared to the rest of your body, is it obvious?.

Also when you stand up do you feel more empowered like..on your way up from couch.... (up)..fk yeaah!.

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Quote from: Slim_tim on July 24, 2014, 03:52:59 PMHow do your tibia feel now compared to the rest of your body, is it obvious?.

Also when you stand up do you feel more empowered like..on your way up from couch.... (up)..f**k yeaah!.

My tibia actually looks quite natural still, sure its a bit long but it doesnt look odd in anyway, and its still significantly shorter than my femurs. I agree with medium drink of water that longish tibias look aesthetically pleasing, my legs look kind of badass now actually, like they where shaped to be optimal for muay thai lol. At least with shorts on, without shorts, my thighs get exposed and i havent regained all the muscle there yet so it looks a bit weak at the moment..


well i dont notice really that i am taller when im just walking around, i got used to it so fast (and i didnt notice it much when lengthening since it is such a slow pace we lengthen at)

Only when i look at my family, and other people when i am outside do i feel a big difference, also when looking in the mirror i look bigger than i used to, and its an awesome feeling, especially when i imagine all the muscle im going to gain later. (its interesting that just by getting a bit taller, the whole bodyframe appears to be bigger even though it technically isnt)

Its also great because it improved my proportions, and it will make me look way better in pretty much all kinds of clothes compared to before. before LL i didnt bother with any of this stuff, its like i unlocked a new character in a fighting game and im super excited to try to learn all the tricks and stuff.