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Posted on Mar 31, 2014, 3:19 am
#81

Hello Wannabegiant

Long time lurker, first time poster(Both forums)
I plan on staying for the whole process- distraction, consolidation and frame removal and will only head back home once its all been removed. Can only imagine what kind of looks I'll get at the airport going back home with the frames on Wannabegiants tibial lengthening in Moscow, Dr. Bagirov

How long would I have to stay for to do 5cm? And I mean for the whole process.
Would you be able to re-upload your pictures? Seems to have been deleted
Thanks

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Posted on Mar 31, 2014, 3:56 am
#82

Quote from: ShortyMcShort on March 31, 2014, 03:19:29 AMHello Wannabegiant

Long time lurker, first time poster(Both forums)
I plan on staying for the whole process- distraction, consolidation and frame removal and will only head back home once its all been removed. Can only imagine what kind of looks I'll get at the airport going back home with the frames on Wannabegiants tibial lengthening in Moscow, Dr. Bagirov

How long would I have to stay for to do 5cm? And I mean for the whole process.
Would you be able to re-upload your pictures? Seems to have been deleted
Thanks

Im not sure that would be a good idea, 5 cm could take between 7 or 10 months from surgery until you get the frames removed(most likely about 7, but up to 10 with complications etc). it would get extremely expensive staying at the hospital.

You can easily hide the frames with long softpants, and i got help through the airport as a disabled person would (I was in a wheelchair). People wont have any clue about what you have done unless you wear shorts.

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Posted on Mar 31, 2014, 4:07 am
#83

Quote from: Wannabegiant on March 31, 2014, 03:56:57 AMIm not sure that would be a good idea, 5 cm could take between 7 or 10 months from surgery until you get the frames removed(most likely about 7, but up to 10 with complications etc). it would get extremely expensive staying at the hospital.

You can easily hide the frames with long softpants, and i got help through the airport as a disabled person would (I was in a wheelchair). People wont have any clue about what you have done unless you wear shorts.

Agreed, but what about when you beep going through the metal detector? Did they inspect you thoroughly, wouldnt want to be inspected infront of everybody.
My main reasons for wanting to stay there for the whole process is because no one knows Im doing this but one friend, Im the same as you in that Im also 23 and still live with my parents and currently at university. Basically I'll be telling them that Im going on a gap year which seems believable, dont want them worrying and telling me Im fine how I am and go buy a nice car instead lol.

It would become extremely expensive indeed if I stayed for the whole process and the price would skyrocket to roughly the same as LON/LATN with Dr. Birkholtz in South Africa. Going home early is not an option for me I dont think. Thanks again for the reply, look forward to reading the rest of your diary

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Posted on Mar 31, 2014, 11:07 am
#84

Quote from: ShortyMcShort on March 31, 2014, 04:07:56 AMAgreed, but what about when you beep going through the metal detector? Did they inspect you thoroughly, wouldnt want to be inspected infront of everybody.
My main reasons for wanting to stay there for the whole process is because no one knows Im doing this but one friend, Im the same as you in that Im also 23 and still live with my parents and currently at university. Basically I'll be telling them that Im going on a gap year which seems believable, dont want them worrying and telling me Im fine how I am and go buy a nice car instead lol.

It would become extremely expensive indeed if I stayed for the whole process and the price would skyrocket to roughly the same as LON/LATN with Dr. Birkholtz in South Africa. Going home early is not an option for me I dont think. Thanks again for the reply, look forward to reading the rest of your diary

The clinic wrote some kind of certificate for me, but they made it so the certificate stated that i had done some kind of corrective surgery to keep my privacy intact. They had contact with someone on the airport who escorted me in the wheelchair, im not sure he had to use the certificate even, but i didnt have to step through the metal detector. Im sure if there was some issue that certificate would have solved any problem that might have arisen.

Im gonna use it when i fly back there after lengthening is done too.

I have one year of my university program left.. had to postpone it to do this surgery. Fortunately my family supports my decision and helps me at home.

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Posted on Mar 31, 2014, 9:41 pm
#85

I think you can wear cast or braces when you take off the device.

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Posted on Mar 31, 2014, 9:54 pm
#86

Quote from: paco1 on March 31, 2014, 09:41:38 PMI think you can wear cast or braces when you take off the device.

For extra caution yes why not.  However your bones are already well formed when doctor decides it's time to remove external frames.  Therefore it's not necessary I think.     

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Posted on Mar 31, 2014, 9:58 pm
#87

In my case i would be more calm  with somes braces in my legs.

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Posted on Apr 6, 2014, 9:50 pm
#88

Hi Wannabegiants,
are your device so small to wear hidden under the trousers? that is my bigger concern.

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Posted on Apr 7, 2014, 12:46 pm
#89

Quote from: paco1 on April 06, 2014, 09:50:34 PMHi Wannabegiants,
are your device so small to wear hidden under the trousers? that is my bigger concern.

They can be hidden under soft pants and some wider type of jeans/trousers. Nothing slim fit will work though of course. But the frames are small in comparison to the other options.

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Posted on Apr 7, 2014, 1:01 pm
#90

Update:

Some general information about the whole LL experience:

Pain Level

So far very little pain, occasionally i feel a slight pincing pain in the incision areas and around the knees, as well as the front of the upper shins.

Mostly its just discomfort though, and knee stiffness after laying still for to long, or having them bent (when sitting) for extended periods of time. This goes away pretty fast after walking for a bit.

I guess it might get worse soon though as im working on my third cm..


Subsidence Loss

And im no so worried about the subsidence loss any longer, i read some studies about it and apparantly the average loss is around 0.6 mm, which is minimal. Those studies claiming losses of 1 cm and more had measurement errors that the authors admitted. And that doctor Franz who is posting here is probably referring to those studies when he claims 0.5 -1.0 cm loss is common, since he has only done 2 cosmetic surgeries so far himself.

Also Dr. Bagirov said that he recommended i turn a few extra mm to be safe but i should not lose anything as long as we remove the frames once the bone is solid enough.

Weightbearing

I have walked since the second day after my surgery, It was painful then but they gave me painkillers. However I stopped using painkillers completely after about 5 days post surgery, and after about 10 days post surgery walking was relatively pain free for me. And now i dont feel any pain pretty much while walking (of course i cannot walk without the walker/crutches yet but it feels like i might be able to soon)

I have minimal pain and can walk a lot without problems, I could walk a lot more than i do (and i would say the ammount i do walk is still quite a lot) but i dont feel like pushing my limits and prefer to take it nice and easy. No signs of infection either so far.

Id say i walk in total maybe for about 1-2 hours a day combining all the time im standing and moving (ie away from the bed), although i gradually increase the ammount. I intend to walk a lot more during consolidation phase though for sure. But 6-8 hours a day sounds like overkill for me personally.


Frames

Bagirovs frames are smaller and allow full range of motion, they dont feel that heavy.

Both of the half rings are technically under the knee, but the upper half ring crosses over part of the knee, meaning that one of the pins of the upper half ring goes through the top of the fibula here to keep it in place i assume.

The half ring on the top has 4 semi thick pins going into the leg, and the lower half ring has one single large and thick pin going into the leg. The ankle full ring has 6 small and thin pins. So that means 11 pins per leg.

its hard to explain how the pins are placed but i have no ankle problems and its easy to move my feet. Also while knees get a little stiff (which is normal for all kinds of LL) i have full range of motion for my knees, they can extend and bend fully with these frames.

Caretaker

I think it would be very difficult to take care of yourself in this condition at least for the first 2 weeks after operation, after that it gets better and more movement is gained. at this point you wont be able to walk up and down stairs, i had to sit on the stairs and lift myself up with my arms going backwards, one step at a time, and then when i reach the second floor, my family helped me get back to my feet.

I guess it is possible after that but will be hard to make food for yourself when you have to stand with the walker holding it with at least one hand and then cooking with the other hand, not sure how that would work, i guess fast food is an alternative but then again you are supposed to eat healthy for best results, im fortunate my mother makes excellent tasty and healthy food for me every day.

Preventing Infection

You dont need to change the pin site dressing as long as it is dry and you dont see any signs of infection, there will be dry blood so it might look nasty but it doesnt neccessarily mean there is a problem.

If you DO get an infection you need to change the dressing of course and you get to buy medicine for it from the clinic, ointments to use at the infected area.

You are not supposed to wash your legs for the whole duration of the surgery. You can scrub them i guess with a towel (avoid water to get into the pin sites though.

When washing you put on some plastic bags around the frames and legs and tie it up over the knees so no water gets through, then sit down on a stool/bench or something and wash the upper body and mid section. then make sure you are dry before removing the plastic bags.

Exercises

Other than walking, The clinic recommended a few types of stretches and exercises, stretching the calves by pulling the top of the feet backwards towards you. You can either lay down while doing this or walk towards some stairs or a doorstep, and put your toes/front part of the feet on top of them and press down with your body weight to stretch the calves. When doing the regular version when laying down using rubber bands can be a good option. The other exercise was for the thighs, laying down on your back and trying to raise the legs one at a time while keeping them straight.

Also while the Doctor mentions that keeping the knees straightened at all times while laying down, if you have trouble with this you can compensate by stretching the knees, by putting some weight on top of the knees while the feet are elevated on top of something.

Medicine

You get the option to buy the required medicine for the lengthening phase by the clinic, relatively cheap, or you can buy it yourself. However i bought it from the clinic. And the daily pills i take is 2 pills in the morning for thinning out the blood and prevent trombosis, and one blood thinning pill at the evening. Also supplements include a bone regen pill, and Vitamin B. Other than that i take my own Calcium and Vitamin D supplements, as well as zink and Vitamin C.

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