So the point of the "Americans" part is the currency exchange issue for someone who has USD. In greece I think they use euros and in India they use rupees (lakh is 100,000 Indina rupeees evidently https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lakh). I believe that young people in Greece and India are taught English in school in addition to their native languages, though I imagine Mumbai has more English speakers overall?
1. Which is cheaper overall when all the costs have been added up?
2. What are the other pros and cons?
On one hand, the cleanliness of Parihar's facility and the stomach virus Kilohan got are very scary. I'm under the impression that westerners/people who haven't lived in India don't always do so well when they go to India in terms of stomach issues and getting diseases.
On the other hand, Parihar's interview on youtube did make him look very good and if he is cheaper (ex: if the Indian rupee/lakh depreciates relative to the USD moreso than the euro relative to the USD) then its a real consideration. The other issue that makes Parihar look like a good option is that he says that he will have access to Stryde just like Giotikas.
I've saved up about 155k$ USD, hoping to do both tibia and femur internal with stryde in about two years after covid. I'll probably have like $160k ish max saved by then but maybe still 155k.
What are the pros and cons of Parihar vs Giotikas for Americans?
I traveled to India a few years ago and also got the stomach virus. I think the locals are immune to it.
There are no pros of Parihar compared to Giotikas for noone except maybe for an Indian from the same town.
No sane person would prefer India from Greece, especially for almost the same price and a worst nail (precise 2 vs stryde).
Dr Parihar pretty much has access to Stryde already. He said in the interview that Nuvasive is currently being audited, so due to Nuvasive's internal nails being shipped into the country on an individual basis, it'll be available again within a couple weeks from the interview date. Since the nails take 1.5 to 2 months to arrive in Mumbai after the license is obtained, one could probably coordinate with him now to get the Stryde license process started. With the covid situation I don't think anyone outside of India can even get the surgery there before Nuvasive's audit is finished, anyway.
Dr Giotikas seems like he'd be a good doc based on what I was able to hear in his interview, and Greece is a better destination than India in a lot of ways. However, if you stay at a nicer hotel in Mumbai during distraction, you're not living like the average person there and would be very comfortable.
I think it will ultimately boil down to what's more important to you during lengthening, be it doctor experience or scenery or whatever else, and then go from there.
I don't know why Giotikas has such a high standing here without any strong evidence. All we see are some cosmetic LL cases of him on the forum.
He is relatively less experienced, works out of 2 countries and isn't particularly known outside of this forum.
Greece is not without its problems. But even if someone were to think Greece is a very developed country, it doesn't work that way with this field of medicine because it is too niche. I live in a "developed" country and wouldn't trust my legs with any local doctor here with any limb lengthening or deformity correction.
That said, Giotikas might be good, but one needs to do their own research outside of this forum.
Also, India is also probably a very difficult place to do this procedure for anyone from outside India.
Quote from: frenchie on December 29, 2020, 12:11:04 PMI don't know why Giotikas has such a high standing here without any strong evidence. All we see are some cosmetic LL cases of him on the forum.
He is relatively less experienced, works out of 2 countries and isn't particularly known outside of this forum.
Greece is not without its problems. But even if someone were to think Greece is a very developed country, it doesn't work that way with this field of medicine because it is too niche. I live in a "developed" country and wouldn't trust my legs with any local doctor here with any limb lengthening or deformity correction.
That said, Giotikas might be good, but one needs to do their own research outside of this forum.
Also, India is also probably a very difficult place to do this procedure for anyone from outside India.
Giotikas works on Greece but also on a university hospital on London so there is a great evidence that he is a capable doctor.
I haven't seen some proof that Parihar is a better one doctor.
Anyway, dr Parihar may be a good doctor but his prices are way too much for India and I would never do such a risky surgery to a third world country's hospital.
Even if Parihar is a s good as Giotikas or even more experienced (I doubt personally), still I can't find any reason to do LL on India compared to Greece with the same price.
Thanks!!!! When all costs are factored in, is Dr. Parihar considerably cheaper than Giotikas for someone who has all his money in US dollars?
If you traveled to India again, what would you do differently to decrease the odds of catching something?
Quote from: SpeedDialer on December 29, 2020, 06:40:02 PMThanks!!!! When all costs are factored in, is Dr. Parihar considerably cheaper than Giotikas for someone who has all his money in US dollars?
No he is not.
Parihar is like 40k+ for stryde (if it is even stryde, maybe he does only precise 2)
Giotikas is 45k for stryde. Needless to say Greece is a much better country, food is especially better and cheap
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