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Posted on Dec 23, 2013, 8:53 pm
#1
We, the LL community, are all too familiar with Sysop/Apotheosis. Unfortunately much of his fame has come from his habitual lying, or at the least, stretching of the truth.

One area in which the prophet, a former (and possibly current?) patient of Dr. Betz, stretches the truth is by claiming that he is completely proportional after lengthening over 20 CM. He posted before and after-LL pictures of himself to "prove" this. Shown first are the pictures he posted, taken straight from the lion's mouth. Notice how, while the waistlines are aligned in both pictures, in the after picture, Sysop's torso is smaller. The picture was taken from farther away and from a different angle! He is also wearing his briefs lower to make his torso look longer and his shoulders are also pushed down compared to the first photo.

To be completely fair in the representation of how Sysop looks following ~21 CM of LL, I took his before photo and added 11 CM to his tibiae and 9.5 CM to his femurs. This way, his shoulder position, and the photograph distance and angle remain constant. The result: the real Sysop.

You be the judge of whether you'd like to look proportionally similar to him or not. At least now the community has an accurate visual representation of what he actually looks like. I chose to post this because I feel that Sysop should have been honest about his proportions from the start if he was going to use them for educational/informative purposes on old forum .


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Posted on Dec 23, 2013, 10:40 pm
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the best thing to judge someone proportion is to put him next to somebody else who is naturally at his height.
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Posted on Dec 23, 2013, 11:29 pm
#3
You know what?

I actually think he looks fine.

I realise that is perhaps not what some people will want to hear but I don't personally think his proportions are off at all.
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Posted on Dec 23, 2013, 11:44 pm
#4
I don't think he looks all that bad, but hopefully people don't take what he did and automatically assume it's the right choice for them. He may look okay but he'll never get anywhere close to prior strength or flexibility having lengthened as much as he did. I'm sorry, but no amount of persuading is going to convince me that one can lengthen that extensively and not be met with severe complications later down the line.

Don't sacrifice an absurd amount of function just for that extra height.
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Posted on Dec 23, 2013, 11:55 pm
#5
The trick is to look at the pictures a bit zoomed out. You'll see it looks like he is standing on stilts. Also then picture him sitting down on a chair or a sofa to reveal his short torso with way too long legs.

Did anyone who met him in India take any pictures?
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Posted on Dec 23, 2013, 11:57 pm
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Quote from: An_Apple_A_Day on December 23, 2013, 11:29:14 PM
You know what?

I actually think he looks fine.

I realise that is perhaps not what some people will want to hear but I don't personally think his proportions are off at all.

I have to partially agree with you and admit that I would probably be much more physically intimidated by him, if I met him in person, at 6'3 than at a hair under 5'7. And I can't deny that, with a long shirt on, few would notice his disproportionality. Honestly, I think getting his humerus bones lengthened may not be such a bad thing. He'll look more proportional and, since few people have done it while many are interested, he'll be the guinea pig for once. I do greatly admire that he followed his dream to be taller. I was just a bit upset about how he gave a skewed image of what he looked like after LL by manipulating camera angle and a number of other variables, and not stating it, when these variables clearly affected the image he showed old forum  members significantly, possibly giving them unreasonable expectations or impressions regarding LL.
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Posted on Dec 24, 2013, 12:00 am
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Apo does look unproportional at the second photo, which you photoshopped, but since we don't usually walk around, go to work, go to the park, to the movies etc. with boxer briefs, I think he should be fine. He just has to remember to wear something when going out  What Sysop/Apotheosis REALLY looks like
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Posted on Dec 24, 2013, 12:06 am
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Quote from: Tall on December 23, 2013, 11:57:51 PM
I have to partially agree with you and admit that I would probably be much more physically intimidated by him, if I met him in person, at 6'3 than at a hair under 5'7. And I can't deny that, with a long shirt on, few would notice his disproportionality. Honestly, I think getting his humerus bones lengthened may not be such a bad thing. He'll look more proportional and, since few people have done it while many are interested, he'll be the guinea pig for once. I do greatly admire that he followed his dream to be taller. I was just a bit upset about how he gave a skewed image of what he looked like after LL by manipulating camera angle and a number of other variables, and not stating it, when these variables clearly affected the image he showed old forum  members significantly, possibly giving them unreasonable expectations or impressions regarding LL.

You have to figure that if he tried to physically intimidate anyone with his height and they called him out on it, he'd be in trouble. With weakening his legs from that much lengthening, a 5'3 guy could embarrass him physically with little difficulty.

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Posted on Dec 24, 2013, 12:12 am
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Kilokahn,

Theoretically this might be absolutely true, but in the "modern world" we human beings don't usually beat the crap out of each other to intimidate others. Physical intimidation, however, exists in height, which Apo now has plenty of. So in a practical sense, his legs might not be strong, but who would know about it except for himself, which makes him intimidating at the end. I agree that it's not functional (physically), but it's functional (socially).

I would rather be a normal 5'11 (180 cm) guy than a 5'5 (165 cm) pro UFC fighter.
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Posted on Dec 24, 2013, 12:20 am
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Quote from: ChrisIsaak on December 24, 2013, 12:12:19 AM
Kilokahn,

Theoretically this might be absolutely true, but in the "modern world" we human beings don't usually beat the crap out of each other to intimidate others. Physical intimidation, however, exists in height, which Apo now has plenty of. So in a practical sense, his legs might not be strong, but who would know about it except for himself, which makes him intimidating at the end. I agree that it's not functional (physically), but it's functional (socially).

I would rather be a normal 5'11 (180 cm) guy than a 5'5 (165 cm) pro UFC fighter.

I think most people would rather be an average 5'11 than a shredded 5'5 pro fighter. But what good is having the height if you're going to move like a grandfather the rest of your life and develop multiple problems down the line like early arthritis, permanent shin splints, complications with your blood vessels and nerves, etc? I don't think handicapped people get much social benefits, even the tall ones.
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