Quote from: DoingItForMe on January 28, 2016, 11:53:31 PMIf you do, I applaud you. I don't know if it's because you remind me of my younger self and I feel like I have a chance to warn my younger self about this surgery. But as I'm still sitting here in pain from the surgery even 7 months after the surgery, I can tell you that it's not worth it. If the drawbacks and risks weren't there, I'd say that it's worth it. Heck, even the price tag doesn't matter, because you can work more and pay it off. But you're playing russian roulette with your health here. Maybe if the pain went away and my life returned back to normal again, I'd change my tune and recommend this surgery. But seeing how other patients have had permanent issues, I can't really advocate for this surgery as "worth it". I mean, yes, it cured my height neurosis. But god damn do I want my life to just return back to normal. Who cares what I look like anymore. I just want to be able to have a normal day without aches and pains in my legs and feet.
When you say "other patients" do you mean Paley patients that you know of or in general?
Quote from: PatientZero on January 28, 2016, 04:48:31 PMDo drugs and kill myself, being short is not worth it man. People are mean.
Anyone thinking the same? Lets hold each other.
I feel you bro
*tightest hug possible*
Quote from: Peaceout on January 28, 2016, 07:12:33 PMWhats your height?
I'm 170cm evening height.
Quote from: DoingItForMe on January 28, 2016, 11:53:31 PMIf you do, I applaud you. I don't know if it's because you remind me of my younger self and I feel like I have a chance to warn my younger self about this surgery. But as I'm still sitting here in pain from the surgery even 7 months after the surgery, I can tell you that it's not worth it. If the drawbacks and risks weren't there, I'd say that it's worth it. Heck, even the price tag doesn't matter, because you can work more and pay it off. But you're playing russian roulette with your health here. Maybe if the pain went away and my life returned back to normal again, I'd change my tune and recommend this surgery. But seeing how other patients have had permanent issues, I can't really advocate for this surgery as "worth it". I mean, yes, it cured my height neurosis. But god damn do I want my life to just return back to normal. Who cares what I look like anymore. I just want to be able to have a normal day without aches and pains in my legs and feet.
Do you smoke pot? Just curious, not trying to make a joke.
It might help take the edge off, but I can understand if you are completely against it.
Quote from: DoingItForMe on January 28, 2016, 11:53:31 PMIf you do, I applaud you. I don't know if it's because you remind me of my younger self and I feel like I have a chance to warn my younger self about this surgery. But as I'm still sitting here in pain from the surgery even 7 months after the surgery, I can tell you that it's not worth it. If the drawbacks and risks weren't there, I'd say that it's worth it. Heck, even the price tag doesn't matter, because you can work more and pay it off. But you're playing russian roulette with your health here. Maybe if the pain went away and my life returned back to normal again, I'd change my tune and recommend this surgery. But seeing how other patients have had permanent issues, I can't really advocate for this surgery as "worth it". I mean, yes, it cured my height neurosis. But god damn do I want my life to just return back to normal. Who cares what I look like anymore. I just want to be able to have a normal day without aches and pains in my legs and feet.
Do you think it was the 8cm, if you did 5 to 6cm do you think you'd be having these issues? What do you believe is the cause?
Quote from: ouroboros on January 29, 2016, 05:58:16 AMDo you smoke pot? Just curious, not trying to make a joke.
It might help take the edge off, but I can understand if you are completely against it.
I can smoke pot to lower the pain. But I can also take some codeine or oxycodone to take it off as well. Those are prescription pills, though, and hard to get. It would suck though if I had to take drugs for the rest of my life to get rid of the pain. I'm very unproductive when I smoke pot.
Quote from: theuprising on January 29, 2016, 08:25:44 AMDo you think it was the 8cm, if you did 5 to 6cm do you think you'd be having these issues? What do you believe is the cause?
It could be because of the 8cm. I'm not sure. I suspect that it is. I do recommend 5 cm over 8 cm as my legs only got tighter after 5 cm and where I lost my most flexibility after that. 5 cm was also when my height neurosis was cured. But I also recommend not doing it at all if you can avoid it, because who knows what the issue might be. My body could be damaged from the surgery itself. Right now I have this pain on the top of my left femur each time I move my left leg sideways or walk for more than 5 minutes. It's where they drilled a hole in my femur and put the rod in. Maybe the pain will go away when I exercise my legs even further or when they finally remove the rods. That's what I'm hoping for now. If I remember correctly, ProgramDude had a pain on my hip for up to a year until he removed the rods.
Quote from: TIBIKE200 on January 29, 2016, 12:25:44 AMWhen you say "other patients" do you mean Paley patients that you know of or in general?
I meant in general, because I don't see many Paley diaries. I know that not everyone has permanent pain, but the risk of it is what makes it a gamble. If I end up with permanent pain even under Dr. Paley, then I would really not recommend this surgery at all. Only time will tell if that would happen. I want to know if ProgramDude (Paley patient) has any permanent pain. I asked him in his diary, but he didn't reply. He one of the closest cases to me. He also did 8 cm in femurs and had pain up to when he removed his rods. Then he broke his leg again, and there hasn't been much updates about his pain after that.
thx for the respone 
I wish you well. Hang in there as I am sure everything will be fine
Quote from: TIBIKE200 on January 29, 2016, 01:20:44 PMthx for the respone
I wish you well. Hang in there as I am sure everything will be fine
I hope so. It sucks to see other Paley patients doing well with no pain, while I have pain. It makes me wonder if something went wrong in my surgery/recovery.
Well thats a tough question. I am not sure yet if I will ever do a limb lengthening but to know that lengthening is at least possible makes me feel better. But to be honest we all know how difficult and costly such surgeries are and its anything but an easy step for every patient. I wish there would be an easier way to increase height than such an surgery with all the risks but there is no other way but accepting your height. And for some short people this pain is even stronger than any pain a limb lengthening can cause.
I think instead we'd have forums dedicated to helping men to move and establish themselves in countries with lower average male heights instead.
As previous users did,I will answer too
I think the discover of LL worsened my BDD and in general my life.You have to be very strong minded to not leave LL to obsess your life and your mind.
Balancing the pros(the new hope of becoming taller) and contros I wish I never discovered that.
But now it's too late to have regrets
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