Will Dr. Kevin Debiparshad do LL for himself? I will believe in LL after that

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Dude if u dont have body dysmorphia why wld u do it on the first place..ppl do this thing to kill the height neurosis which is in itself a mental condition and like a disease that haunt them from time to time thts the main reason to do it coz it is a reward in itself and relives them of their neurosis and it definately outweighs the risk of other complications related to the surgery..if u dnt have height neurosis then y wld u even do it....its like having having cancer u know if u do chemotherapy u will cure the cancer but ur body will take a lot of toll u will loss ur hairs and ur immune aystem will be compromised for the rest of ur life but all this complications get outweigh by the fact that u will cure ur cancer....as simple as tht.

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Quote from: Bruce Wayne on September 08, 2020, 02:54:06 PMNot really. Actually country shouldn't really be used to measure this.

People move all the time. But you can't change your height and race.

Being 160cm as a man is a death sentence in terms of being physically attractive regardless of what race he is.

Average male height in India is 164-5cm. https://www.insider.com/shortest-people-in-world-by-country-2019-6#14-india-15876cm-5-feet-250-inches-12
If you are 160cm in India, you are 5cm below average.

Average male height in the Netherlands is 183cm. https://www.insider.com/tallest-people-world-countries-ranked-2019-6#1-the-netherlands-17562cm-5-feet-796-inches-25
If you are 170cm in the Netherlands, you're almost 15cm below average.

Hell, I know a Dutch guy at 175cm who left his country and moved to England because of his height. At 175cm as an Indian you're good.

How many Indians move away from their country/compared to the total population?

And how many Dutch people leave their country/compared to the total population?

I agree that country (height) shouldn't isn't used only to measure this, because of globalization, the internet culture etc.

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Quote from: O_99 on September 08, 2020, 03:02:38 PMAverage male height in India is 164-5cm.

Average male height in the Netherlands is 184cm.

How many Indians move away from their country?

And how many Dutch people leave their country?

I actually highly doubt that the average height of Indian male for younger generation is the one you describe. That must include older men from rural areas. I lived in Malaysia before where Indian constitutes 7% of the country's population. And I can say that more than half of them are taller than me (5'6"). Most Bangladesh men are shorten than me though.

Ok, maybe, there are a few things where the 170cm Dutch will have it harder such being made fun more by their country people or harder to get a job (I honestly don't know if that happens that way). Adults here don't really make fun of another adults' height.

But 160cm is physically too short for a man regardless of race. Of course this 160cm Indian will still be able to marry someone when he got money. If that's all his life is about, then yes, he'll have no problems. After all, Indian women are more conservative-type, don't really engage in premarital sex.

I personally like to think bigger than a country. It's within the realm of possibility for the 160cm Indian man who's already short in his country to move to EU/US and feel even shorter. Indian students studying abroad are common. They also do travel. There are touristic cities in India where they'll meet tourists and expats.

And the 170cm Dutch guy can go to any other European country where he'll still look like any other European guy but the average height is significantly lower. The average height in France is only 174 for example.

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Quote from: Bruce Wayne on September 08, 2020, 03:37:14 PM(1) I actually highly doubt that the average height of Indian male for younger generation is the one you describe. That must include older men from rural areas.

(2) I lived in Malaysia before where Indian constitutes 7% of the country's population. And I can say that more than half of them are taller than me (5'6"). Most Bangladesh men are shorten than me though.

Ok, maybe, there are a few things where the 170cm Dutch will have it harder such being made fun more by their country people or harder to get a job (I honestly don't know if that happens that way). Adults here don't really make fun of another adults' height.

(3) But 160cm is physically too short for a man regardless of race. Of course this 160cm Indian will still be able to marry someone when he got money. If that's all his life is about, then yes, he'll have no problems. After all, Indian women are more conservative-type, don't really engage in premarital sxx.

(4) I personally like to think bigger than a country. It's within the realm of possibility for the 160cm Indian man who's already short in his country to move to EU/US and feel even shorter. Indian students studying abroad are common. They also do travel.

There are touristic cities in India where they'll meet tourists and expats.

(5) And the 170cm Dutch guy can go to any other European country where he'll still look like any other European guy but the average height is significantly lower. The average height in France is only 174 for example.

(1) It's actually from a 20-49 age group. The younger generation is probably a bit higher (+x cm), but the younger generation is a bit higher (+y cm) in the Netherlands too. And x>y seems logical because of the greater improvement in nutrition and faster economic growth in India.

(2) Ok, let's say that the younger generation's average height in India is at 168cm average. It's safe to say that the younger generation's average height in the Netherlands is 185cm+. That's still a 8cm difference for the 160cm Indian guy and around 15-16cm for the Dutch (or those who live in the Netherlands).

(3) The point is that it's worse being 170cm in the Netherlands (below country's women average) than being 160cm in India.

(4) But again, the percentage of Indians that leave their country is much much smaller than the those who stay. Remember, India has 1.353 bn people as of now.

(5) It's safe to say that most Dutch people prefer to stay in their country. Also, the average male height in France is around 180cm, not 174cm (which means probably 181-182cm average young generation's height).
https://www.insider.com/tallest-people-world-countries-ranked-2019-6#21-france-17231cm-5-feet-783-inches-5

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Quote from: Alamin on September 08, 2020, 02:47:56 PMAt ur current height i guess u r pretty much ok..coz u also have a muscular body so things really do tend to get manly on ur account..coz i know some of my friends who are muscular and also at ur height and belive me they sinply slay..even way good looking physically then some of my 6ft and above frnds..coz they are akinny and some are just obese....so its not a very real neccesity for u to get the femurs done.

Becoming taller, even at 1,76, will give me some aesthetic benefits especially since my tibias are too long after tibia LL, so a longer femurs would look better.
But yes, my height compared with my muscles make me manly enough.
The biggest problem is at night, were all women wear massive heels, I am almost the same height with most of them.
If heels disapleared then the difference of height I have with the majority of women (5+ cm) is very ok with me.

That said, of course it is not a necessity and as I said in an other topic, I won't do another LL because I have an important relationship and I have much more important things to do eith 50k euros than looking better with becoming tall.
I would do a new LL only if I really find a lot money to not care about spending 50k, because I am not afraid of the consequences (walking normally and some running is more than enough for me, I am an amateur bber after all and that eon't change, I don't play football to really need my feet at 100%), I just would have found a resoectable doctor to kinimize the risks.

At 1.75-6, noone needs LL, at 1.68 (my initial height) things are very different though. My first LL was a necessity to live completely normal without the short stigma. Another LL eould have been only to have very easy dates, nothing else.

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Quote from: O_99 on September 08, 2020, 03:59:24 PM(1) It's actually from a 20-49 age group. The younger generation is probably a bit higher (x cm), but the younger generation is a bit higher (y cm) in the Netherlands. And x>y seems logical because of nutrition and faster economic growth in India.

(2) Ok, let's say that the younger generation average height in India is at 168cm average. It's safe to say that the younger generation height in the Netherlands is 185cm+. That's still a 8cm difference for the 160cm Indian guy and around 15-16cm for the Dutch (or those who live in the Netherlands).

(3) The point is that it's worse being 170cm in the Netherlands (below women average) than being 160cm in India.

(4) But again, the percentage of Indians that leave their country is much much smaller than the those who stay. Remember, India has 1.353 bn population as of now.

(5) It's safe to say that most Dutch people prefer to stay in their country. Also the average male height in France is around 180cm
https://www.insider.com/tallest-people-world-countries-ranked-2019-6#21-france-17231cm-5-feet-783-inches-5

When you say better/worse, it's in terms of what?

I'd say that in general, someone remained in India will not have as good of a life's quality as someone in EU/US.

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How tall are you Bruce Wayne?

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Quote from: Bruce Wayne on September 08, 2020, 04:09:11 PMWhen you say better/worse, it's in terms of what?

In terms of being short sucks (for your country), regardless of specific environment, family, friends, etc. It's objectively s**t  if you are short. "We" all know what I'm talking about, I think.
Originally replied worse to this, heightwise
Quote from: drxboom on September 08, 2020, 10:57:23 AMis ridiculous. In fact, cll is more important for people shorter than 170. If you do 170 175 180 cll, it will not be as good as the person that 160 people get it done.

Quote from: Bruce Wayne on September 08, 2020, 04:09:11 PMI'd say that in general, someone remained in India will not have as good of a life's quality as someone in EU/US.

True. But the reality is most won't be able to do so. It's impossible the majority or even a significant %-age of a 1.3+ bn people country to leave their homeland and move to EU/US.

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Quote from: Body Builder on September 08, 2020, 04:05:53 PM

At 1.75-6, noone needs LL, at 1.68 (my initial height) things are very different though. My first LL was a necessity to live completely normal without the short stigma. Another LL eould have been only to have very easy dates, nothing else.

Absolutely same mentality as I have.

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Quote from: O_99 on September 08, 2020, 04:18:13 PMIn terms of being short sucks, regardless of environment, family, friends, etc. It's objectively s**t  if you are short. "We" all know what I'm talking about, I think.

If we're talking about dating which I assume we are since it's the most common issue in general.

160cm Indian man are taller than average Indian women whereas 170cm Dutch man are shorter than average Dutch women.

However, Indian women =/= Dutch women. Look nothing alike.

So a 160cm Indian man having it easier with Indian women than a 170cm Dutch man with Dutch women doesn't necessarily mean than the Indian guy has it "better" in my opinion. But perhaps that's just me.

Quote from: a on September 08, 2020, 04:17:01 PMHow tall are you Bruce Wayne?

167cm