Quote from: myloginacct on February 19, 2018, 03:52:55 AMAlso, I think you may be measuring yourself wrongly, because 1.70 seems like it'd feel short for modern Europe outside of Portugal and regions of Spain. It's still a normal and perfectly livable height, though. Ideally, schedule something with an orthopedist (so you can be professionally measured you with a stadiometer) and settle the matter.
I do agree on the fact that a true 173cm at night is already almost a good height, if you know how to work with it. Those 3cms make a big difference. I think life is easier for men taller than 175cm, but it's nothing that can't be equally compensated by building a better physique and other traits about yourself after you're already out of "short" territory.
Europe also does seem to have this weird thing where the men are much taller than the women. I don't understand how men in all these European countries can average over 175cm (at least) while their women average under 170cm (at the most). There are countries like Norway where the men supposedly average 180cm, and the women, 165cm. A 15cm difference. The biological genders seem to be closer in height elsewhere. In other countries, the difference seems to be more around 8cm.
Are you spanish ?
and no, I measured me well. I'm 5-7. 100 %
5'7 and more who want ll do you know the reason of your complex?
Quote from: myloginacct on February 19, 2018, 03:52:55 AMEurope also does seem to have this weird thing where the men are much taller than the women. I don't understand how men in all these European countries can average over 175cm (at least) while their women average under 170cm (at the most). There are countries like Norway where the men supposedly average 180cm, and the women, 165cm. A 15cm difference. The biological genders seem to be closer in height elsewhere. In other countries, the difference seems to be more around 8cm.
Can you share some personal observations of places where men and women are closer together in height? I'm curious.
https://imgur.com/a/JTgOl
watching it like that I could look 171, but whatever. Sorry for the quality, I put the 5-7 mark in red
Quote from: Knik on February 19, 2018, 12:42:58 PMhttps://imgur.com/a/JTgOl
watching it like that I could look 171, but whatever. Sorry for the quality, I put the 5-7 mark in red
That looks like a terrible way to measure it. I'd probably lose 3cms like that.
Try marking 170, 171, 172 and 173cm on a wall after you're 100% sure the tape is measuring correctly from the ground and up, then compare yourself (with proper posture).
Quote from: IwannaBeTaller on February 19, 2018, 10:48:07 AMCan you share some personal observations of places where men and women are closer together in height? I'm curious.
I'll PM you later.
For me, the reason is that I want to stand taller than the mediocre majoritity as much as possible. I want to force even more people to have to look up at me than already do. And I want to be able to look down at more people than I already do.
I'm not concerned about doing better with women or other areas of life since I already do great in all those areas. At best I expect only a marginal improvement in those areas, but that's fine.
Quote from: TheTallerTheBetter on April 26, 2018, 12:36:07 PMFor me, the reason is that I want to stand taller than the mediocre majoritity as much as possible. I want to force even more people to have to look up at me than already do. And I want to be able to look down at more people than I already do.
I'm not concerned about doing better with women or other areas of life since I already do great in all those areas. At best I expect only a marginal improvement in those areas, but that's fine.
I suggest investing in these, rather than CLL, so you can overcome that mediocre "majoritity".
First of all, please excuse me for my poor English, I'm not a native one.
Actually, I'm a good looking guy in my early 30 with a varying height problem. Why varying? Simply because I'm not extremely short, and because it often depends on the context.
I'm about 174cm (5'8.5), officially measured by a doctor 5-6 years before at midday (I've a better posture from this time, doing lot of sport and stretching, so maybe one more cm now ?). I actually wear, most of the time, a 2cm (0.75in) 'little help' in my shoes pushing me to 176cm (5'9.3) and feel a lot better, and with a good posture, people often think I am about 177-178cm (5'10).
It depends on the context firstly because I'm from a family of short people (thanks God I'm the taller one!). My brother is only 168cm (5'6.1), my father 170cm (5'7), my sister 153cm (5'0.2) and my mother was 160cm (5'3). So in my young age, taller people (like my 187cm (6'2) brother in law) were an exception and I was not feeling any pain (I remember when I was a child I was even thinking, "I wish I will be 1m75 when I grow up"...).
Things changed when entering in high school. At this time I was about 172cm (7'7.75) I think, wearing super-flat shoes and with a bad posture, and most of the other guys appeared to me as some sort of a new powerful race of giants : most of them were more than 180cm (5'11) and sometimes even 190cm (6'3). It was a first painful feeling for me to be closer to girls than boys.
Two years after, I met my wife. My wife is of course perfect in every ways... 'but' she is 178cm (5'10.1), and from a fkg family of this new 'race of giants'. In this family (which I love, don't worry), girls are 174 (5'8.5), 176 (5'9.3) and 178cm (5'10.1), which is pretty big for girls (just imagine with their 5 to 8cm high heels...), and the men are between 183cm (6ft) to about 187 (6'2), every-one with super good posture. Even the old grandpa was a 185cm (6'1) super-muscular and good posture person. It was my second painful feeling, because I was not even at the same height of girls, and they were sometimes joking about it (gently, very gently, but you know...).
There were many other painful feeling from those two firsts. Young students at university, some trips in Denmark, Germany and Netherland (welcomed by some 175-180cm girls and a 195cm guy, ha-ha thank you), some situations like at the gym when you think you are building a powerful body until you compare with a giant who makes you look like a manlet...
Sometimes I'm close to heal this feeling and feel better for some months. Sometimes I feel good with my height (with the 2cm help in my shoes however). However, sometimes I fall into a new long and painful period, like last weeks. I had a rendezvous with my 178cm (5'10.1) wife, a day she wore 8cm (~3in) heels, who was accompanied by three of her friends : two 175-176cm (~5'9) girls and a super-tall guy of about 2m (6'6 to 6'7), for going to an evening at the opera which was only for younger people (less than 40 years old). And I don't know if it was because of a super-Alpha-rich-and-healthy-superior-young-class, but it was just INSANE, almost everybody was towering me, even girls were often more than 170-175cm and wearing super high-heels (I've even seen 2 or 3 girls at about 185cm) and young guys were super often at 185-190cm+... I was literally swimming in a canyon, i'm pretty sure you understand what i mean. My wife and her friends were in the good shape, not me at all.
So, even if a remember that in my country average men height is about 176cm (5'9.3) and that I have to force myself to feel 'almost normal', I know and I surely feel that it's really not anymore the case and that the young generation is fkgly giant for many of them (of course i have some smaller friends too, i don't deny, but you know...). Problem is that I'm living everyday with those young people.
Therefore, that is why it is varying all the time. But most of the time it remains painful, even if I'm really not a very small guy (in theory).
And as you know, internet never helps. Even for finding some girls : even if you looks handsome, charming and intelligent, if your bio says '1m76' of something like that, most girls will think 'not bad but i surely can find taller' (especially beautiful ones which have a lot of choices). But more than internet, it's my real-life experience which is driving me into this painful feeling for 12 years now, not only a virtual experience.
(sorry for double post, it's a mistake)
I don't think that being 5'7" is a deterrent in life and I think i'd be able to accomplish everything I set out to do if I wanted to..
However I have an extreme height complex and mental issues do to me being smaller than most people...I feel it's psychological in a way but it's also definitely effected the respect I receive both socially and professionally. Like i'm less taken seriously and i'm not intimidating whatsoever (Not that I want to be) but i'd at least like to be respected.
I understand completely that people who are 5'4" would love to be my height and may need surgery (multiple surgeries) to get here. Although every case is different. I want to change every part of my life to my satisfaction while I can when i'm here on this earth.
I am deeply dissatisfied with being my height and I am obsessed with thinking about it. In my opinion it's a great investment for my mind to move on and focus on other things so I can be happy. I will never truly be happy at this height. There is nothing a psychologist can say to fix me. They do not know my reality. I envy others at my height that are fine.
And btw an ACTUAL 5'9" is not small socially or objectively. The problem is that most guys who are 5'7", 5'8" claim to be 5'9" and it gets engrained in their head. I claimed 5'9" forever and nobody questioned it. The reality is that if people were really 5'9" they'd claim 5'10" or 5'11" and be more satisfied. So alot of it is mental I understand but it doesn't make it any better on my brain.
Quote from: Johnson1111 on May 04, 2018, 02:39:08 PMI don't think that being 5'7" is a deterrent in life and I think i'd be able to accomplish everything I set out to do if I wanted to..
However I have an extreme height complex and mental issues do to me being smaller than most people...I feel it's psychological in a way but it's also definitely effected the respect I receive both socially and professionally. Like i'm less taken seriously and i'm not intimidating whatsoever (Not that I want to be) but i'd at least like to be respected.
I understand completely that people who are 5'4" would love to be my height and may need surgery (multiple surgeries) to get here. Although every case is different. I want to change every part of my life to my satisfaction while I can when i'm here on this earth.
I am deeply dissatisfied with being my height and I am obsessed with thinking about it. In my opinion it's a great investment for my mind to move on and focus on other things so I can be happy. I will never truly be happy at this height. There is nothing a psychologist can say to fix me. They do not know my reality. I envy others at my height that are fine.
And btw an ACTUAL 5'9" is not small socially or objectively. The problem is that most guys who are 5'7", 5'8" claim to be 5'9" and it gets engrained in their head. I claimed 5'9" forever and nobody questioned it. The reality is that if people were really 5'9" they'd claim 5'10" or 5'11" and be more satisfied. So alot of it is mental I understand but it doesn't make it any better on my brain.
Hey, man, that's fine. Take it easy and take your own time to figure this out.
But of course, do proper research and self-reflecting before throwing yourself at the cheapest doctor available.
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