Quote from: ghkid2019 on August 21, 2020, 04:46:24 PMNo one will convince him. No rational reasoning will occur. Dont bother
Kid, if you got a problem with me, you can just say it.
You
Quote from: ghkid2019 on August 21, 2020, 06:14:01 PMYou
Great. So what the fk is your problem, kid?
Since you're safe behind your computer desk in your mom's basement, just say it all, nothing to lose.
A lot of the insecurity at 5’8-5’11 I attribute to the Lamborghini effect (I’m sure there’s a real name for this but I’m too lazy to google it) I.e. you drive on the highway one day and see two or three Lamborghinis and your brain tricks you into believing that Lamborghinis are more common than in reality.
Same goes for 6 ft+ giants walking around. They are statistically rare even in taller countries but you pay more attention to them when you see them and thus the insecurity develops. Internet magnifies this 100x.
If you are a well-proportioned guy of average height I don’t care what red pill nonsense you spew at me, there’s no reason you can’t pull a 9+ Attractive woman assuming you are also attractive, successful, charismatic etc. Definitely not your height stopping you at that point. Plenty of ugly lanky 6 footers around that can’t pull tail believe me.
Would I love to be a couple of inches taller and join the 6 ft club? Sure. But there’s definitely more greed and vanity in this category than there would be for actual short males looking into CLL.
Quote from: dal216 on August 26, 2020, 01:17:55 AMA lot of the insecurity at 5’8-5’11 I attribute to the Lamborghini effect (I’m sure there’s a real name for this but I’m too lazy to google it) I.e. you drive on the highway one day and see two or three Lamborghinis and your brain tricks you into believing that Lamborghinis are more common than in reality.
Same goes for 6 ft+ giants walking around. They are statistically rare even in taller countries but you pay more attention to them when you see them and thus the insecurity develops. Internet magnifies this 100x.
If you are a well-proportioned guy of average height I don’t care what red pill nonsense you spew at me, there’s no reason you can’t pull a 9+ Attractive woman assuming you are also attractive, successful, charismatic etc. Definitely not your height stopping you at that point. Plenty of ugly lanky 6 footers around that can’t pull tail believe me.
Would I love to be a couple of inches taller and join the 6 ft club? Sure. But there’s definitely more greed and vanity in this category than there would be for actual short males looking into CLL.
5.8 is not.a bad height but has nothing to do with 5.11. all that you say are completely true for a 5.11 height but no, for a 5.8 guy height is still a disadvantage and it is very hard to have model girls by his side, even if he is very good looking and with a muscular body.
Less than 5.7 is unacceptable for the majority of women but even 5.8 makes dating not very easy.
As a strong 5.9 guy after my LL, the difference compared to my previous height (5.65) is huge but I am sure that after another one LL and reaching anything above 5.11 things would have been much more easier.
So, at 5.7-8 there are reasons to have height complex, especially when it comes to dating, at 5.9-10 you are ok but still some more height would have helped and after 5.11-6 ft height really doesn't matter any more, it is perfect.
Brah if you attribute your lack of success in dating is because you’re too “short” at 5’8-5’9. Being 5’11 ain’t gonna change . If you were good looking at 5’4, and you attribute your lack of success in dating because of height then that would actually make sense. Most girls can’t even tell the difference between 5’9 and 5’11…. They are on average 5’4, and just want a guy a few heads taller then them they can’t tell the difference.
The dating poool is drastically increased for guys going from 5’4 to 5’7, then it is for guys going from 5’8 to 5’11
Quote from: palm_trees on April 26, 2023, 11:44:06 AMBrah if you attribute your lack of success in dating is because you’re too “short” at 5’8-5’9. Being 5’11 ain’t gonna change . If you were good looking at 5’4, and you attribute your lack of success in dating because of height then that would actually make sense. Most girls can’t even tell the difference between 5’9 and 5’11…. They are on average 5’4, and just want a guy a few heads taller then them they can’t tell the difference.
The dating poool is drastically increased for guys going from 5’4 to 5’7, then it is for guys going from 5’8 to 5’11
Absolute fking garbage. Someone needs to start banning these sn-akes, seriously.
Quote from: p00293 on April 27, 2023, 03:28:22 PMAbsolute fking garbage. Someone needs to start banning these sn-akes, seriously.
I think there is indeed a 'threshold' past which there will be 'dimishing returns' becoming of the benefit of being taller, but I am not sure if the threshold he elucidated is accurate either, but def past the threshold, the success of dating will be more dependent of face stature personality etc.
I am not tall now (173cm) but I was much smaller growing up compared to my peers. As in bottom 2% - 5% of my age group.. It did not really bother me when I was a small child because you can just run faster / be more agile when you are smaller, so why care?. I remember it hit me very hard when I got into the 12-13-14 age and started to like girls. Mostly because they always pre-emptively rejected me because I was small. As in, even though I never displayed interest I would still get told I was too small for any girl to ever like me. Get hit by this every day during formative years and I guess it will fk you up.
I guess in reality it didnt really mean anything. And simply having a personality that didnt care would probably outshine the height hate, but I had the opposite effect, and this probably amplified it.
Imo the height dysphoria occurs when you start absorbing the height shame truely and internalize it. It’s almost like the shame fuses into your bones and cannot be separated. Like it becomes part of your identity. Something you cannot escape. Maybe because I was vulnerable due to other stuff going on also at that age? Anyway, I believe that trying to work on the shame with a therapist is important. Even if you do LL. That has to be cleaned up, even if not 100% you can maybe clean up a good amount.
Quote from: TheDream on April 27, 2023, 09:30:59 PMI am not tall now (173cm) but I was much smaller growing up compared to my peers. As in bottom 2% - 5% of my age group.. It did not really bother me when I was a small child because you can just run faster / be more agile when you are smaller, so why care?. I remember it hit me very hard when I got into the 12-13-14 age and started to like girls. Mostly because they always pre-emptively rejected me because I was small. As in, even though I never displayed interest I would still get told I was too small for any girl to ever like me. Get hit by this every day during formative years and I guess it will fk you up.
I guess in reality it didnt really mean anything. And simply having a personality that didnt care would probably outshine the height hate, but I had the opposite effect, and this probably amplified it.
Imo the height dysphoria occurs when you start absorbing the height shame truely and internalize it. It’s almost like the shame fuses into your bones and cannot be separated. Like it becomes part of your identity. Something you cannot escape. Maybe because I was vulnerable due to other stuff going on also at that age? Anyway, I believe that trying to work on the shame with a therapist is important. Even if you do LL. That has to be cleaned up, even if not 100% you can maybe clean up a good amount.
Remember the complex inferiorities deriving from your serious genetic weaknesses are extremely resistant to therapies as well as medications and at this point I'd say Eugenics is sensical, but firstly Eugenics is too 'politically incorrect' and there will be some aftermaths from practicing Eugenic regimes which restricts the variance of gene pool.
I am one of those poor souls who are artifacts of doleful genes and I am pretty self-aware as others who also are.
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