although the environment may play a part, honestly I think a lot of people on this forum just have a really bad victim mentality, and it gets worse when everyone here just encourages it
This place is horrible for your mental health
Quote from: Zeo on January 13, 2018, 06:40:03 AMalthough the environment may play a part, honestly I think a lot of people on this forum just have a really bad victim mentality, and it gets worse when everyone here just encourages it
This place is horrible for your mental health
Every person is different, in fact I haven't felt this good in a long time ever since becoming a contributor on the forums. Before I felt defeated, but now that CLL is within reach, I feel very much in control of my future. I no longer feel pinned by my genetics, and it's freeing.
Quote from: extremis on January 13, 2018, 04:59:34 AMThis is more or less accurate.
First, BDD is an overdiagnosed umbrella term that is handed out like candy to everyone who shows up to a psychiatrist's office with a complaint about their looks, which in many cases is justified. Most people who are diagnosed with "BDD" regarding a particular physical feature (facial aesthetics, large nose/ears, baldness, short stature, etc) really ARE unattractive because of that feature.
Actual "BDD" wherein the person's "dysmorphia" is unfounded - i.e. the person actually DOESN'T have the flaw they perceive themselves to - is basically UNHEARD OF.
That isn't the case here. There's nobody on this board who is 6'5", but when they look in the mirror they see a 5'2" guy. The problem people have here is they're 5'5" (for example) and when they look in the mirror they see a guy who's 5'5", and when they go out with their friends or just alone they get treated like a guy who's 5'5" (i.e. like a walking punch line, butt of people's jokes, etc).
The problem with all these "psychology" terms like height neurosis or BDD or whatever is that they take the focus off of HEIGHTISM, which is what is actually causing people to perceive their short stature as a flaw and creating the "neurosis" in the first place. People don't just randomly start hating themselves because of a feature and develop mental illnesses for it. It's OTHER people's treatment of them that causes it.
This thread was asking about 5'7 and up and not 5'5 and down. I agree with you that 5'5 is rougher than 5'7 though..
It is BDD when you have people 5'9-5'6 complaining that it is impossible to date and those heights (btw reddit short is full of a little below average height people complaining... Much more than shorter people).. I can sympathise with a 5'5 complaining that it is extremely tough to date or to get respect. But not with someone my height of 5'7.5 and up
My reason is my dad. I'm 6'2", but he is 6'4". I'm tired of him saying that I'm short (which is absurd by any metric other than his own height), and I want to be taller than him.
Quote from: Skywalker on January 15, 2018, 03:14:17 PMMy reason is my dad. I'm 6'2", but he is 6'4". I'm tired of him saying that I'm short (which is absurd by any metric other than his own height), and I want to be taller than him.
wow, you're case is DRAMATIC. I advice you 15 cm in each segment to put one full head to your stupid father
Quote from: Knik on January 15, 2018, 04:34:07 PM
wow, you're case is DRAMATIC. I advice you 15 cm in each segment to put one full head to your stupid father
Will that really be enough? At 217cm, he'll still feel short around the gigantism club.
He should do 25cm in both segments and be done with his BDD once and for all.
Quote from: extremis on January 13, 2018, 04:59:34 AMThat isn't the case here. There's nobody on this board who is 6'5", but when they look in the mirror they see a 5'2" guy. The problem people have here is they're 5'5" (for example) and when they look in the mirror they see a guy who's 5'5", and when they go out with their friends or just alone they get treated like a guy who's 5'5" (i.e. like a walking punch line, butt of people's jokes, etc).
Isn't this reversed? There are hordes of users here who are short(er) but look in the mirror and see this 6 feet guy. You are, of course, right about the points of a man who's 5'5 and sees that in the mirror. That's someone who wants to solve a problem. However, how can we not say that all the men here who look at themselves in the mirror and don't see their "true selves" isn't partially also BDD? Think of all the comments about what height we were meant to be, the height we actually "feel" like, etc.
I'm not saying a lot of people aren't just looking at a problem and wanting to solve it, but there's also BDD involved for a lot of people here (including myself) - specially all the guys on the taller side of things. The problems their height bring to themselves are more in their heads than anywhere else.
EDIT: Fixed typos.
To be competitive.
I'm 5'8 (173 cm)
I live in the midwest, think gentrified middle class white communities all college educated 300k or more house. Think beautiful beautiful tall white girls, a model scout would have a hayday here.
The truth of the matter is, everyone in a high status environment (a nightclub, a big city, a large corporation, etc) is 6'+. Physical stature is an extremely important thing, in life, in dating, in being a man. at 5'8, 155 lbs, I'm simply too small of a male to be competitive in these environments. Sure, I can go out and have a good time, I can make it.. 5'8 isn't THAT limited, but let's be honest here and say that whatever speciousness I may possess gets the volume knob turned way down by my height.
And that's just not something I'm okay with in this lifetime. I work very hard. I have a good dating life, I'm very happy with my life.
But the simply fact of the matter is, I'm not competitive. Almost every man in these environments has atleast 3 inches and 30 pounds on me. It's not an insurmountable advantage, it's just not one I am willing to entertain when there's a solution. That's just who I am. I want to live my best life.
I don't think life is fair, and I don't think you should play by the rules. I'm actually a blessed person, I have a lot of good genetics to be thankful for, but that only in-satiates my lust to actualize some of these cosmetic, extra-curricular surgeries and pursuits. Why should I not fulfill my highest potential, if I'm so close to the top? Why should I be an unacceptable height for a certain type of beautiful women when I'm so close to being on her level or above?
I still have tens of thousands of hellos, and nice to meet yous to say. I'm 20. In double my lifetime on this earth, I'll only be a wealthier, stronger, more prime man. I'll probably even still be good looking at 55.
It just doesn't make sense to me, to choose to live an inferior life of being the same size as the beautiful girls you're trying to hook up with, to get girls, but to have them not really care about you and see you as someone valuable enough to pursue, when it's all defeated.. Completely defeated, with 3 inches, 5'11. And that's available to me with only the sacrifice of two years of my 70+ year life. That's just simply not in my nature. I want to be competitive in this lifetime.
I just honestly, all in all, believe in myself. I believe I'm worth it, and that money invested into myself will have great returns. Why shouldn't I pursue this, knowing that? Like I said, I have a lifetime of meeting beautiful like-minded people. I just want to roll up to as young and beautiful as I ever will be. If that's neurotic and narcissistic, it's ok, that's just what I'm going to do with my life. 
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Quote from: Nathond1 on January 22, 2018, 08:54:33 AMTo be competitive.
I'm 5'8 (173 cm)
I live in the midwest, think gentrified middle class white communities all college educated 300k or more house. Think beautiful beautiful tall white girls, a model scout would have a hayday here.
The truth of the matter is, everyone in a high status environment (a nightclub, a big city, a large corporation, etc) is 6'+. Physical stature is an extremely important thing, in life, in dating, in being a man. at 5'8, 155 lbs, I'm simply too small of a male to be competitive in these environments. Sure, I can go out and have a good time, I can make it.. 5'8 isn't THAT limited, but let's be honest here and say that whatever speciousness I may possess gets the volume knob turned way down by my height.
And that's just not something I'm okay with in this lifetime. I work very hard. I have a good dating life, I'm very happy with my life.
But the simply fact of the matter is, I'm not competitive. Almost every man in these environments has atleast 3 inches and 30 pounds on me. It's not an insurmountable advantage, it's just not one I am willing to entertain when there's a solution. That's just who I am. I want to live my best life.
I don't think life is fair, and I don't think you should play by the rules. I'm actually a blessed person, I have a lot of good genetics to be thankful for, but that only in-satiates my lust to actualize some of these cosmetic, extra-curricular surgeries and pursuits. Why should I not fulfill my highest potential, if I'm so close to the top? Why should I be an unacceptable height for a certain type of beautiful women when I'm so close to being on her level or above?
I still have tens of thousands of hellos, and nice to meet yous to say. I'm 20. In double my lifetime on this earth, I'll only be a wealthier, stronger, more prime man. I'll probably even still be good looking at 55.
It just doesn't make sense to me, to choose to live an inferior life of being the same size as the beautiful girls you're trying to hook up with, to get girls, but to have them not really care about you and see you as someone valuable enough to pursue, when it's all defeated.. Completely defeated, with 3 inches, 5'11. And that's available to me with only the sacrifice of two years of my 70+ year life. That's just simply not in my nature. I want to be competitive in this lifetime.
I just honestly, all in all, believe in myself. I believe I'm worth it, and that money invested into myself will have great returns. Why shouldn't I pursue this, knowing that? Like I said, I have a lifetime of meeting beautiful like-minded people. I just want to roll up to as young and beautiful as I ever will be. If that's neurotic and narcissistic, it's ok, that's just what I'm going to do with my life.
Height doesn't matter that much if at 6 feet (or close to it) you're still giving off an aura of incredible, obnoxious narcissism. Just saying.
And someone tell Bill Gates he's excluded from the high status environments because he's not 6 feet. 
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