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Posted on Nov 30, 2016, 7:57 am
#11

imo dont pass 5 cm on tibias no matter what.Its just way too risky to push tibias and its not worth it for 1-2 extra cm.

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Posted on Nov 30, 2016, 8:25 am
#12

Quote from: YourSpaceBoyfriend on November 29, 2016, 11:14:15 PMYou sure?


If the consequences were so terrible, why did he constantly say he wanted another lengthening surgery? I guess it was because his desire to be taller outweighed his desire to perform athletically. Abd for some people, not being able to run might still be preferable to not being (that) short anymore. But you should still discuss it with a good lengthening doctor.

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Posted on Nov 30, 2016, 9:36 am
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Quote from: YourSpaceBoyfriend on November 29, 2016, 10:28:43 PMBut sweden is not fine, RGKEY is not fine.

After 5cm LL is a huge lottery, some people come out fine some people don't.
Besides you need to keep it in mind that after 5-6cm your athletic abilities will drastically go down.


If I'm not wrong, femurs have a greater safe limit than tibias and allow more lengthening. I'm looking forward to this surgery in the future and want to gain a total of 12cm from two segments. Is 5.5cm Tibias and 6.5cm Femurs fine? And what if I decide to go femurs first to gain more height earlier, can I aim 7cm for femurs instead and do 5cm tibia later? or is 5.5Ti- 6.5Fe cm better?
My height is in the 5'6-5'7 range.

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Posted on Nov 30, 2016, 9:13 pm
#14

Quote from: IwannaBeTaller on November 30, 2016, 08:25:02 AMIf the consequences were so terrible, why did he constantly say he wanted another lengthening surgery? I guess it was because his desire to be taller outweighed his desire to perform athletically. Abd for some people, not being able to run might still be preferable to not being (that) short anymore. But you should still discuss it with a good lengthening doctor.


Wanting another surgery on a different segment doesn't mean that you can't regret the previous one.

Quote from: usigx on November 30, 2016, 09:36:00 AMIf I'm not wrong, femurs have a greater safe limit than tibias and allow more lengthening. I'm looking forward to this surgery in the future and want to gain a total of 12cm from two segments. Is 5.5cm Tibias and 6.5cm Femurs fine? And what if I decide to go femurs first to gain more height earlier, can I aim 7cm for femurs instead and do 5cm tibia later? or is 5.5Ti- 6.5Fe cm better?
My height is in the 5'6-5'7 range.


I was talking about tibias only and ye you can lengthen femurs more since it's a longer bone in general.
Idk if your proportions will handle 12cm doe.

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Posted on Nov 30, 2016, 9:26 pm
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Quote from: YourSpaceBoyfriend on November 30, 2016, 09:13:39 PMWanting another surgery on a different segment doesn't mean that you can't regret the previous one.


But it's a very inconsequent choice to say the least. If you're unhappy with your athletic performance with broken tibias, you will be even more unhappy with your athletic performance with broken tibias AND broken femurs. It means that despite his sadness for losing athleticism, he appreciates the positive sides that came with the surgery, or otherwise he would not plan another one. 

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Posted on Nov 30, 2016, 9:57 pm
#16

He wanted to do another surgery because of the proportions, probably just accepted his athletic state but he regrets doing that much.

But anyway i think sweden should really talk about what's going on.

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Posted on Nov 30, 2016, 9:59 pm
#17

I might catch some flack for this statement, but if today was the ceiling of my physical recovery + athletic abilities, I wouldn't trade an inch of my height back.  I know it's young in my recovery and post ll life but I walked for several miles during my Vegas trip and I was surprised at how well my body was able to handle the beating.

Having said this, I am sure I might regret this statement if I was trying to dodge a bull at Pampalona.

ALSO. I do not advise going past 6cm, because that's approximately how much I did and things could be very different if I continued past that.

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Posted on Dec 1, 2016, 1:17 am
#18

Quote from: YourSpaceBoyfriend on November 30, 2016, 09:13:39 PMWanting another surgery on a different segment doesn't mean that you can't regret the previous one.

I was talking about tibias only and ye you can lengthen femurs more since it's a longer bone in general.
Idk if your proportions will handle 12cm doe.


Well, I am really not that much concerned about the proportions. I don't mind if my torso looks a bit off compared to legs (unless it looks really really odd) then I might cut down to 10cm which is my absolute minimum requirement from 2 segments (which is down to 4 inches from 4.72). Can you recommend me what you think would be the best combination of femur and tibia lengthening for 12 cm and 10 cm?
For 12 cm :  5.5 ti - 6.5 Fe or 5 ti - 7 Fe?
For 10 cm : 5 ti - 5 Fe or 4 ti - 6 fe?

Furthermore, for tibia I'm reluctant to do the LON, since I heard 25% of patients suffer permanent knee pain. Internal Precise is too expensive and should only be considered for Femurs if budget is constraint. So that leaves with Betz / Guichet nail (aka twist and shout) or external. For external I heard there's a hybrid fixator which basically reduces the recovery time compared to traditional though I'm not exactly sure where it's offered but it exists.
Also, since Europe and USA are quite expensive, I'm wondering how would Dr. Parihar (India's supposedly best LL doctor) compare to Dr. birkholtz from South Africa, Dr. Jamal from Turkey and Dr. Aimen peng / Xia from China. I'm trying to evaluate options of these countries:-
1) India
2) China
3) Turkey
4) S.A
5) Russia

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Posted on Dec 1, 2016, 1:36 am
#19

I would do 4 tibia and 6 femur.

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Posted on Dec 1, 2016, 2:02 am
#20

Quote from: Iamready on November 30, 2016, 09:59:40 PMI might catch some flack for this statement, but if today was the ceiling of my physical recovery + athletic abilities, I wouldn't trade an inch of my height back.  I know it's young in my recovery and post ll life but I walked for several miles during my Vegas trip and I was surprised at how well my body was able to handle the beating.

Having said this, I am sure I might regret this statement if I was trying to dodge a bull at Pampalona.

ALSO. I do not advise going past 6cm, because that's approximately how much I did and things could be very different if I continued past that.


Glad your continuing to do well. Didn't one of the Paley patients do 8cm tibias while you were there? La Chanta mentioned one guy did 8cm both femurs and tibias I think. Do you know how he's doing? Would be an interesting data point thou I'm sure his flexibility and soft tissue limits were atypically good and even if he's done good it doesn't mean i should go for more than 6cm.

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