are you afraid that your future girlfriend could discover that you did CLL?

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Keep the secret for yourselves, bros!

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Ya i wouldn't really care if i told her or she found out or whatever. I didn't do it for her i did it for me. Ill explain to her why i did it and all but if she really loses respect for me or resents me for it than whatever i don't really care. Next.

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Quote from: YellowSpike on March 11, 2015, 10:39:25 PMMy biggest concern is actually keeping this a secret in the sense that, when I'm in a long-term relationship, I don't like keeping secrets. For dating/hooking up, those girls don't need to know. My ideal scenario would be to tell a girl I'm about to get serious with, and have her be ok with it...but then I worry, at that point (probably a few months or so in), she may freak out and then I've lost the relationship (and the time invested in it). So maybe I'll just keep it to myself. Guess my jury's still out on this one...

The best relationship is when the girl reveals everything and the guy keeps secrets, it's actually the opposite of what is considered true. It keeps the girl on their toes, keeps you feeling 1 step ahead and she will always sense that you know something she doesn't which she'll love.

Do yourself a favour and never tell.

Quote from: ForcedPuberty on March 12, 2015, 12:23:58 AMgirls cant be trusted. they cant keep their mouths shut. they HAVE TO TELL SOMEONE. and then that person usually a girl will have to tell someone.

when they get angry......... the first thing they will do is blab your secret.

That applies to everyone not just girls. A promise to keep a secret relies on you feeling the same way when you first made the promise. If a girl told you wouldn't you find it hard to keep your mouth shut, especially if she becomes an ex? No.

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keeep it a secret fo sho:)))

trust me on this one.... these women can be vindictive.... what they don't know can't hurt you

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Quote from: w1988 on March 15, 2015, 05:52:47 PMThe best relationship is when the girl reveals everything and the guy keeps secrets, it's actually the opposite of what is considered true. It keeps the girl on their toes, keeps you feeling 1 step ahead and she will always sense that you know something she doesn't which she'll love.

Do yourself a favour and never tell.

That applies to everyone not just girls. A promise to keep a secret relies on you feeling the same way when you first made the promise. If a girl told you wouldn't you find it hard to keep your mouth shut, especially if she becomes an ex? No.

Yes, this is so true! Any girl that has options (is hot and/or young) will get bored and lose her attraction to you if you become an open book to her. Then she'll dump you or worse, cheat on you.

So let her try to peel information from you, but never give it up easily. Let her chase you and push the relationship forward even if you're ready for the next step. Never admit that you like her more than she likes you even if it's true. As soon as she gets the idea that she's better than you she'll be looking for the next guy.

As the guy if you want a serious long term relationship you're going to have to do most of the work until she's ready to settle down and have kids.

...of course, if you're her best option then I suppose you don't have to worry about these things, and can be as open as you feel like.

But I imagine guys that want CLL are the kind that also want to date up.

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I would confess, real women would understand how fked up the world is.

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Quote from: Outgrown on March 16, 2015, 12:12:01 PMI would confess, real women would understand how fked up the world is.

A girl I work with shed some light on the truth about women not too long ago (she's very attractive and a bitch, granted, but she usually tells it like it is). I'll never forget it. She basically said something to the effect that women are never as loyal or committed as men. When a man falls in love, unless the women completely lets herself go (becomes obese, doesn't shave for a year, etc.), unless she cheats or really f*cks up somehow, he won't leave her. With women, you can be the best bf out there (provide for her, be loyal to her, stay in shape, etc.), and there's still a chance that she can stab you in the back for seemingly no reason (or for a very stupid reason). Maybe I'm still a bit bitter from a bad breakup I experienced years ago (so feel free to take this with a grain of salt), but from what I've observed with women and other relationships, I think this is kinda true.

And for this reason, I'm never telling a woman about LL.

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Wow, this is a good read.....there is a lot of good information here.   
I have given the topic of "sharing absolutely everything with a woman" a lot of thought in the past and have concluded that like it or not, it will come back and bite you in the ass when you least expect it.

Here is something I figured out after years of observing women's behavior:

Ask a woman what kind of guy she likes and her "text book" answer is Tall, Dark and Handsome.

What does this really mean?  There is a ton of sub context in these three words, let me explain;

Tall = confident, good posture, strong presence, assertive, etc. 
     Most people assume that Tall=height only, but I'm sure you know tall guys that are wimpy,  and have trouble attracting women.  Likewise there are short guys that do very well with women because they have the real character traits that women are attracted to.

Dark = mysterious, slightly troubled, slightly hot tempered, shady past, etc.
     Again most people assume Dark=dark skin only.  Getting a "lovely" tan is not going to make you a better person, the most it will do is hide your skin blemishes better and make you a little healthier looking.

Handsome = well groomed, takes care of himself, dresses well, attention to detail, etc.
     Most people assume Handsome=genetic looks.   Looks do play a role in instant attraction to women, but it is the "overall appearance" of a man that is going to count the most in the end.  Women are always "sizing you" up and down for these indicators of alpha masculinity just the same as when we are constantly scanning women for indicators of fertility (breasts, hips, etc.)

Try to enhance yourself to meet as many of these requirements as you can to be more attractive to women.   God only knows that women are always enhancing themselves by wearing push up bras, those damn sexy yoga pants, red lipstick etc.

By becoming an open book with your girlfriend, you will lose your mysteriousness(Dark side) to them and become less attractive.   It's not that women are evil and shallow, it's just something that is deeply encoded in their female genetics to help them choose the better person to mate with so their offspring will have a better chance themselves.   

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Quote from: ouroboros on March 17, 2015, 02:44:00 AMWow, this is a good read.....there is a lot of good information here.   
I have given the topic of "sharing absolutely everything with a woman" a lot of thought in the past and have concluded that like it or not, it will come back and bite you in the ass when you least expect it.

Here is something I figured out after years of observing women's behavior:

Ask a woman what kind of guy she likes and her "text book" answer is Tall, Dark and Handsome.

What does this really mean?  There is a ton of sub context in these three words, let me explain;

Tall = confident, good posture, strong presence, assertive, etc. 
     Most people assume that Tall=height only, but I'm sure you know tall guys that are wimpy,  and have trouble attracting women.  Likewise there are short guys that do very well with women because they have the real character traits that women are attracted to.

Dark = mysterious, slightly troubled, slightly hot tempered, shady past, etc.
     Again most people assume Dark=dark skin only.  Getting a "lovely" tan is not going to make you a better person, the most it will do is hide your skin blemishes better and make you a little healthier looking.

Handsome = well groomed, takes care of himself, dresses well, attention to detail, etc.
     Most people assume Handsome=genetic looks.   Looks do play a role in instant attraction to women, but it is the "overall appearance" of a man that is going to count the most in the end.  Women are always "sizing you" up and down for these indicators of alpha masculinity just the same as when we are constantly scanning women for indicators of fertility (breasts, hips, etc.)

Try to enhance yourself to meet as many of these requirements as you can to be more attractive to women.   God only knows that women are always enhancing themselves by wearing push up bras, those damn sexy yoga pants, red lipstick etc.

By becoming an open book with your girlfriend, you will lose your mysteriousness(Dark side) to them and become less attractive.   It's not that women are evil and shallow, it's just something that is deeply encoded in their female genetics to help them choose the better person to mate with so their offspring will have a better chance themselves.

This^^^^^^^ so much

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If you dont want anyone to know or think of you as a freak and you cant keep your mouth shut about your operation, dont expect anyone you tell to be able to keep quiet.

Thats how I see it. I wont even tell my dog.


Edit: cheap ass russian phones make my spelling atrocious.