as anyone done 8cm on tibias and regained athletic ability.

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Lol 6-7cm to reduce complications in tibias? This doctor is an idiot and should be avoided if he is claiming 8cm is an ok length, and 6-7cm is a modest lengthening to reduce risk of complications. He is disagreeing with EVERY SINGLE top doctor in this field for what is a safe tibia lengthening. 6cm is considered the absolute max and many of the top doctors won’t go above 5cm. 3-4m on tibias would be more of a “conservative” lengthening if you are worried about complications. 7cm is getting close to the limit for femurs lol.

I can’t tell if these are shills for this scam artist “doctor” or just extremely uninformed/misguided patients

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I would persobally definitely be happy with 174-175cm! It's the fact that I did something that is deemed "impossible". Living cheaply, working extra hard while in Uni, learning how to invest your money, research and due dilligence of surgery related things. Last but not least, to voluntarily break your legs and go through a painful and hellish process for months all on your own. If I don't become happy about going all this, I do not deserve to be taller.

It looks like Buldu removed the prices on his sites, and I cant find his personal contact information ;(

Anyhow I contacted AFA unddr Dr Innan and their LON package without food + accommodation costs 14k Euros. It also looks tempting due to Dr Innans experience. But little sceptical since haven't heard alot of him and AFA here

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Quote from: RichTheGreat on July 17, 2021, 07:02:57 AMMan, you are literally me, same age, same height and similar family situation. except im from Sweden. Let's say I have it arguably worse here where the average height is probably 182 cm for males my age hahah.

Likewise I have unsupportive parents so I have managed to save up for the 22k LON package in Turkey with Buldu. I just have to logistically figure out when to do the surgery since I still have 2 years of Uni left. I'm thinking of next year in June when I have my summer break. Obviously I can't let my parents or friends know about this either so I plan to stay the full 90 days in Turkey, If I wanna stay longer I'll have to be absent from classes, renew my visa and pay more for the accomdation. Luckily I live in my own student apartment so I can somewhat avoid my family.

I'm planning on LON Tibias - > 5,3cm. 0,8-0,85mm of lenghtning everyday so approximately 5 days of post surgery recovery before lenghtning, 65 days of lenghtning which leaves me with 20 days for bone healing and consolidation with PT and under the doctor's supervision.

Sorry for hijacking the thread... I just thought it would make the procesa extremely less painful physically and mentally if I could make a friend who go through the same hellish process. 

Edit: this post was supposed to be a reply toLeoGb

Sound like a plan. What made you decide to do the tibias vs femur? Im still not sure which one I want to do. I hear tibias have a faster recovery.

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Quote from: dexter1930 on July 11, 2021, 06:42:20 PMthanks, I'm doing good at the end of the distraction, no painkiller needed and I can't wait to remove the frame to learn how to walk and get back to normal life again so I'm expecting absolute recovery post op.
my doctor is in HCM, he doesn't treat foreigners. He does CLL regularly but mostly dealing with discrepancy patients or any cases related to lower half
However, you can do it in Ha Noi. This is a biggest clinic with experienced dr there. I believe they do offer a total package for foreigners.
here is their link
https://www.facebook.com/keodaichandrdoan/
https://keodaichan.vn/ly-do-nen-chon/
I did NOT do it there simply because of the distance and I also believe it can be done with my doctor in HCM too, not a too risky surgery if everything gets done correctly and you your homework, you'll be fine. Notice, I do know A LOT of patients there through chatting app in VN so I know how they charge and shed some light for you
about the total package you should expect if you do it in Ha Noi, I can provide a closed up number
-flight ticket: idk you do the math
-2 surgery: attachment and removal of the frame: 8K. You will stay in the hospital for 10 days before discharge to your hotel
- Hotel: with water, electricity, wify....you should spend no more than 400$ per month for a NICE, CLEAN apartment 1-2 toilets, 2 bedrooms, 1 living room, 1 kitchen, balcony, ...You should also find a cheaper one easily but you need local people to look for this
- supplement, drugs, bandages, tapper,...etc : no more than 1.5k
- food: let just say you eat 5 times per day with big ass meal, fruits, snacks,....etc all are ordered so this can cost 400$ per month. This can be cheaper if you hire a caretaker, she will cook for you so you will pay less for food
- wheelchair. crunches: 40$
- care taker: I hire a mine 250$ per month/everyday no day off, he cooks for me and shows up from 12am-7pm.
- pt: they do provide in house pt, this guy charges 15$/ hour

So these are some major stuff that I can think of. Let's say you stay for 6 months and can you do the math. Lemme know if this helps

This is very informativ. Do you know if theirs any docs in Vietnam that can do leg straightening and limb lengthening at the same time? I know Baldu does it. But if I can find a more affordable option that would be awesome. Also may I ask what made you go for tibia lengthening vs femurs? Saw you mentioned that you was 28, bro your still a young man lol.. I'm 34 and depending on who I'm converting with still see's me as a young young, so I guess its all perspective. But we are all still in our prime with a lot of years ahead of us.

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Every doctor who does LL can do straightening.  You can get a small amount of straightening from an internal nail, but for a lot you need an external device.

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28 is already old and at 34 you re invisible to women 

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Quote from: 10cmOnTibiaOrGTFO on July 20, 2021, 02:47:17 PM28 is already old and at 34 you re invisible to women 

That's only because you're ugly bro

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Quote from: Growing on July 20, 2021, 08:31:57 AMSound like a plan. What made you decide to do the tibias vs femur? Im still not sure which one I want to do. I hear tibias have a faster recovery.

No, the tibias are less painful, but the femurs recover faster. The problem is that there is a theory that in the future the tibias can bring some problems if you try to lengthen them too much, the advisable thing according to the best doctors of LL, is to lengthen maximum between 3-5 cm, more than 5 cm can generate complications in the future. While the safe barrier for femurs is between 7-8 cm, if you are going to pay a lot of money for this surgery the most sensible thing would be to go for the maximum possible safe lengthening, that is why in my case I opt for femurs, because I also feel that there is less likelihood of future complications.

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Quote from: RichTheGreat on July 19, 2021, 05:35:23 AMI would persobally definitely be happy with 174-175cm! It's the fact that I did something that is deemed "impossible". Living cheaply, working extra hard while in Uni, learning how to invest your money, research and due dilligence of surgery related things. Last but not least, to voluntarily break your legs and go through a painful and hellish process for months all on your own. If I don't become happy about going all this, I do not deserve to be taller.

It looks like Buldu removed the prices on his sites, and I cant find his personal contact information ;(

Anyhow I contacted AFA unddr Dr Innan and their LON package without food + accommodation costs 14k Euros. It also looks tempting due to Dr Innans experience. But little sceptical since haven't heard alot of him and AFA here

If I remember correctly, the prices were as follows, N1 16k EUROS for just the surgery, hospitalization and I think a few days of hotel.   N2 18.5k, basically brings the same as the 16k package but this price includes the extraction once you finish the lengthening, and N3 which is 22k, includes lodging during the whole lengthening stage, physiotherapy, breakfast (I don't know if it includes the 3 meals) and I have no idea if it includes the x-rays, which as far as I know, cost 100 euros and they are done in your room. I know that there are some guys on this forum who negotiated directly with Buldu, and one of them got the 16k package for 15k, and another one got the 22k for 20k.

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