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Posted on Jan 8, 2022, 8:13 pm
#51

Hell no! 8cm on tibias is equivalent to killing urself, not to mention extremely long period for recoveries, the potiential risks such as bone disalignments, Ballet Feet, and etc. will be more possible!

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Posted on Jan 8, 2022, 10:11 pm
#52

Quote from: Liberation on January 08, 2022, 08:13:32 PMHell no! 8cm on tibias is equivalent to killing urself, not to mention extremely long period for recoveries, the potiential risks such as bone disalignments, Ballet Feet, and etc. will be more possible!


I did 7.5 cm and am nowhere near dead because of it.

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Posted on Jan 8, 2022, 10:15 pm
#53

Quote from: Medium Drink Of Water on January 08, 2022, 08:10:58 PMDo we have Sweden running videos?  I think I never saw those.


Yes , i saw them some years ago. Can't tell where them are now.

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Posted on Jan 8, 2022, 11:18 pm
#54

A study about ten years showed roughly 25% of people who lengthened 7 cm on the tibias had trouble pursuing vigorous sports. I don’t have the study on hand rn, though.

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Posted on Jan 9, 2022, 12:26 am
#55

Quote from: ReadRothbard on January 08, 2022, 11:18:48 PMA study about ten years showed roughly 25% of people who lengthened 7 cm on the tibias had trouble pursuing vigorous sports. I don’t have the study on hand rn, though.

So 75% of people can rehab their athletic abilities very well? But srsly I really don't recommend lengthening that much on tibias like beyond 6cm cuz one of Dr.Paley's studies concluded that lengthening tibias beyond 5cm, the possibilities of risks will exponentially increase but that study was tailored to lengthening with external fixators, not internal nails. Maybe the table will be turned if lengthening with internal nails.

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Posted on Jan 9, 2022, 12:52 am
#56

Quote from: Mulholland Dr on January 09, 2022, 12:26:41 AMSo 75% of people can rehab their athletic abilities very well? But srsly I really don't recommend lengthening that much on tibias like beyond 6cm cuz one of Dr.Paley's studies concluded that lengthening tibias beyond 5cm, the possibilities of risks will exponentially increase but that study was tailored to lengthening with external fixators, not internal nails. Maybe the table will be turned if lengthening with internal nails.


There was a more recent study in 2019 showing that people who tibial lengthened an average of 19.3% of their original limb length (6.3 cm in this case) had some trouble pursuing vigorous sports 2 years post-op (the examples they gave with tennis, soccer, and basketball). Another study in 2010 found that people who lengthen 4.4 cm on average showed no decrease in muscular size or strength 2 years post op. I'll link both studies below (they were both on cosmetic patients).

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00264-018-4159-5

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20298828/

My personal theory is that difficulty in hard sports recovery probably has to do with the change in biomechanics; the more you change your tibia-to-femur ratio, the harder it'll be and longer it'll take to fully recover, as your body has to learn how to accommodate the increase. The obvious solution, of course, would be to then lengthen the femurs accordingly in order to restore your pre-op biomechanics, but that's another story. 

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Posted on Jan 9, 2022, 1:01 am
#57

Quote from: ReadRothbard on January 09, 2022, 12:52:45 AMThere was a more recent study in 2019 showing that people who tibial lengthened an average of 19.3% of their original limb length (6.3 cm in this case) had some trouble pursuing vigorous sports 2 years post-op (the examples they gave with tennis, soccer, and basketball). Another study in 2010 found that people who lengthen 4.4 cm on average showed no decrease in muscular size or strength 2 years post op. I'll link both studies below (they were both on cosmetic patients).

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00264-018-4159-5

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20298828/

My personal theory is that difficulty in hard sports recovery probably has to do with the change in biomechanics; the more you change your tibia-to-femur ratio, the harder it'll be and longer it'll take to fully recover, as your body has to learn how to accommodate the increase. The obvious solution, of course, would be to then lengthen the femurs accordingly in order to restore your pre-op biomechanics, but that's another story.

4.4cm? Let's say no.
I'd rather choose Parkinson' Syndrome and Leukemia than being short so it's not possible for me to be satisfied by lengthening under 16cm(I am fixating on Paley's Option 3:4+4+4+4) but the latest study you offered to me instead means that a minority of patients had troubles in pursuing vigorous sports 2 yrs post LL so the results were handsome and not devastating to my expectations for tibial lengthening. Tyvm!

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Posted on Jan 9, 2022, 1:55 am
#58

Quote from: Mulholland Dr on January 09, 2022, 01:01:47 AM4.4cm? Let's say no.
I'd rather choose Parkinson' Syndrome and Leukemia than being short so it's not possible for me to be satisfied by lengthening under 16cm(I am fixating on Paley's Option 3:4+4+4+4) but the latest study you offered to me instead means that a minority of patients had troubles in pursuing vigorous sports 2 yrs post LL so the results were handsome and not devastating to my expectations for tibial lengthening. Tyvm!


How tall are you?

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Posted on Jan 9, 2022, 3:32 am
#59

Quote from: ReadRothbard on January 09, 2022, 01:55:30 AMHow tall are you?

162cm

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Posted on Jan 9, 2022, 3:36 am
#60

Quote from: Mulholland Dr on January 09, 2022, 03:32:47 AM162cm


Are you from China?

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