@Tibike: no my friend, the ideal men for women is not taller than them but tall.
A 5.3 girl will want a lets say 6ft tall man as much as a 5.7 girl.
Of course shorter girl could deal with taller than them men but not generally tall but still their preference would be a tall man.
What women want don't have to do with what they are. It is completely the same between a fat man compared to an athletic man. They both want a sexy slim woman.
@ yunggud: I agree but I don't think that 5.9 compared to 5.85 plays a big role to how people see you.
@ozymandias: I've done LL and talk about my experiences before and after it and also I say my opinion about ehat is the real border where height stops to matter. I don't know anything about you, your height, if you had LL etc so your opinion doesn't really matter at all for me. So keep calm and face your own problems. 
@captain america: By showing disrespect to a veteran LLer who has a diary with pics on the old forum you just show how moron you are. I don't care if you believe me or not, I'm sure that most of the people here can understand what I did and what I'm talking about because they have faced it again and again and that's why they consider LL.
And my profile pic is from Scott Steiner, a phenomenon in wrestling and a real macho man, at least in appearance (because his character is funny and cartoonish). But it doesn't matter, keep believing what you want about me, Steiner or anyone else. If you ever do LL then we can discuss for real. But for now, you are just an unexperienced brat who tries to gain value by insulting people that you don't even know, like me. That's the best you can do. Really pathetic.
@ onemorefoot: I'm not sure. The only thing I take for granted is that I'll do internal femurs but for sure I can't afford anything more than 50.000 euros. So in about a year from now I think that I'll have my final decision.
The highlight of hilarity of this forum is the amount of people who permanently damage their bodies with one lengthening and then decide they'll do a second one because they'd rather be almost crippled and tall than average height and able to move like they're younger than 75. You gotta be one unethical person to operate on these kinds of people.
Quote from: Body Builder on February 22, 2017, 11:40:23 PM@Tibike: no my friend, the ideal men for women is not taller than them but tall.
A 5.3 girl will want a lets say 6ft tall man as much as a 5.7 girl.
Of course shorter girl could deal with taller than them men but not generally tall but still their preference would be a tall man.
What women want don't have to do with what they are. It is completely the same between a fat man compared to an athletic man. They both want a sxxy slim woman.
@ yunggud: I agree but I don't think that 5.9 compared to 5.85 plays a big role to how people see you.
@ozymandias: I've done LL and talk about my experiences before and after it and also I say my opinion about ehat is the real border where height stops to matter. I don't know anything about you, your height, if you had LL etc so your opinion doesn't really matter at all for me. So keep calm and face your own problems.
@captain america: By showing disrespect to a veteran LLer who has a diary with pics on the old forum you just show how moron you are. I don't care if you believe me or not, I'm sure that most of the people here can understand what I did and what I'm talking about because they have faced it again and again and that's why they consider LL.
And my profile pic is from Scott Steiner, a phenomenon in wrestling and a real macho man, at least in appearance (because his character is funny and cartoonish). But it doesn't matter, keep believing what you want about me, Steiner or anyone else. If you ever do LL then we can discuss for real. But for now, you are just an unexperienced brat who tries to gain value by insulting people that you don't even know, like me. That's the best you can do. Really pathetic.
@ onemorefoot: I'm not sure. The only thing I take for granted is that I'll do internal femurs but for sure I can't afford anything more than 50.000 euros. So in about a year from now I think that I'll have my final decision.
Bodybuilder I have a question for you as its something that I often ask myself. Say we do go up to 5'11 and a girl likes us enough to want to start a family with us. We have kids and the kids end up short. Is it unethical that you never told her about your limb lenthening?
Quote from: Big Daddy on February 22, 2017, 11:56:31 PMThe highlight of hilarity of this forum is the amount of people who permanently damage their bodies with one lengthening and then decide they'll do a second one because they'd rather be almost crippled and tall than average height and able to move like they're younger than 75. You gotta be one unethical person to operate on these kinds of people.
At one point does one get crippled? I would assume that doctors wouldnt do the surgery if they know that it will cripple someone. I get confused about this point because most reputable doctors say that if you gain 5-6 cm there is relatively little risk but then I hear people here on this forum say that its an extremely dangerous surgery. So which one is it?
Quote from: Big Daddy on February 22, 2017, 11:56:31 PMThe highlight of hilarity of this forum is the amount of people who permanently damage their bodies with one lengthening and then decide they'll do a second one because they'd rather be almost crippled and tall than average height and able to move like they're younger than 75. You gotta be one unethical person to operate on these kinds of people.
Who are you to insult LL'ers, epecially in a forum about LL?
Also, how do you know if we are crippled or not? I'm almost sure that a "crippled" LL'er like me could lift you in the air and push you back on the ground with not much effort.
So show some respect to people who underwent this hard surgery to improve their lives and get away from a silly social prejudice about short height that unfortunately plays a major role in our lives, or gtfo from here and go to a forum with moron people like you who judge something that never faced because they were just lucky to have a good height.
LL is for the brave ones. Morons like you are the last ones who can criticize us.
Let the drama ensue.
Quote from: Body Builder on February 23, 2017, 12:09:34 AMWho are you to insult LL'ers, epecially in a forum about LL?
Also, how do you know if we are crippled or not? I'm almost sure that a "crippled" LL'er like me could lift you in the air and push you back on the ground with not much effort.
So show some respect to people who underwent this hard surgery to improve their lives and get away from a silly social prejudice about short height that unfortunately plays a major role in our lives, or gtfo from here and go to a forum with moron people like you who judge something that never faced because they were just lucky to have a good height.
LL is for the brave ones. Morons like you are the last ones who can criticize us.
This topic gets better and better lmao
Yves, no it is not unethical because being originally short (especially me because you are about average) doesn't mean that we are going to have short children or the opposite.
After all my dad is almost 5.10 and I was 5.65 (my mum is just 5.2) so by being tall doesn't mean that your children will be tall too. Most of the times the woman's genes play even a bigger role about the height of the children so if our woman is not short, there is a great possibility that our children won't be short too.
But after all there is always LL so everything can change, especially after about 20-25 years that our children would have ended puberty and reached their final height.
So it's up to you if you'll say it or not. I won't and I am completely good about that.
Also, don't be afraid too much about amount of lengthening.
If the doctor is really capable and you are not very unfortunate to have major complications like infections, then most of the people could reach 6-7 cm on femurs and 5-6 on tibias without many risks.
I lengthened 7.5 cm on tibias, which is a lot, and if my moron doctor didn't mess with my achilles tendons, I could have easily been to my 90% pre LL condition which is fine.
Even now I can do everything and almost noone will ever notice that my gait is not ideal due to my loose ach. Tendons (which I'll fix in 2 months with a new surgery).
So don't worry about that, go to a good doctor, keep stretching and I'm sure that you'll get very close to 5.11 with femur LL without many risks.
LL is tricky but not as much as most people who haven't done it believe. After my first LL I'm very sure about my decision to do a second LL and I'm really don't afraid about that. With a little good luck, much effort from the patient and a professional doctor, the outcome will most of the times be very good.
You jobbers better respect bodybuilder or he will put you in the recliner and do a 69"er.
Quote from: Big Daddy on February 22, 2017, 11:56:31 PMThe highlight of hilarity of this forum is the amount of people who permanently damage their bodies with one lengthening and then decide they'll do a second one because they'd rather be almost crippled and tall than average height and able to move like they're younger than 75. You gotta be one unethical person to operate on these kinds of people.
Educate yourself before you try to find entertainment in a field you don't understand.
I'm not a mod, but trolling is against the board rules and you're clearly trolling. Heck, you are even that bold and put it in your signature.
Now make your screenshots for reddit and leave.
I've never seen a topic derailing twice 
My condolence, Captain
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