Compendium of Outcomes

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Quote from: asfastaslight on March 19, 2016, 07:16:25 PMGiven the obesity rate in the united states and the amount of men willing to shoot up steroids to look better, or even self injecting melataonon to get a better tan.  Or how people really are fake in general let's face it going to the club no one cares about anything woman want a tall guy. They don't care how he looks as long as you hide the LL your gonna do better.  If that is what people want to get better at those sort of situations as they don't want to get married or have kids let them.

Many American also cannot do those things, and actually most people can't do a single pull up or chin up correctly.

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Quote from: YellowSpike on February 19, 2016, 07:53:08 PM
Wow thatdude. Good work you've done here lol.

I actually AM happy with my result. I made it to my initial realistic goal of 5'8". And, aside from the my left screw issue (hope to get it fixed soon), my recovery is very good (though not perfect). Soft tissue recovery takes a while, but stretching has been helping me so much. I'm just happy I was complication-free (unless you count the left screw issue). I'm just not satisfied. But I guess we're saying the same thing.

Also, even though I use a machine (makes it easier/safer, since squatting is harder with long femurs) and not a free barbell, I can squat 285 lbs right now

I would more say my outcome was good physically (would have been closer to ShyShy if not for the left screw and the fact that I had to sit/work a lot during clicking), but didn't solve the height neuroris.

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Quote from: crimsontide on March 12, 2016, 11:37:24 PMLet's see some actual evidence that even 10% of LL patients have a successful outcome

Actual video evidence

I've seen    2 users post multiple videos

1- sweden

2- rgkey

neither of them has what what I'd consider  a positive outcome

Where's the evidence? 

Any video purporting to show a positive outcome needs to show at the minimum

1- walking up and downstairs fairly normally

2- leg exercises, such as    squatting to parallel

3-   normal jogging or running

that's the minimum.  No video can show more than a few minutes, so we really can't know how well someone is doing throughout a full day, but  if they can't perform the 3 activities listed above, we can safely conclude  that the outcome is not positive

Any video should also show evidence of the surgery... being in an external fixator is an obvious   method of verification... A little less obvious would be scars consistent with one having had the surgery

I already know we won't have these videos, and that's the point

There's very little evidence of   patients having  great outcomes

Anyone that disagrees... Fine, prove me wrong

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Quote from: Thatdude950 on March 20, 2016, 06:03:10 AMI agree. Until there's better evidence of recoveries (rather than just 1, questionable example [ShyShy] from 100's of diaries) you guys are having your desperation exploited. You're getting butchered by doctors and making them rich - and often yourself poor - in the process.

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Quote from: Thatdude950 on March 20, 2016, 07:45:30 AMThat doesn't really say that much though does it? Feelings count for something, but of course they'll try to be happy. What counts most are empirically verifiable results ... actual proof of recovery and ability rather than just words.

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Quote from: TIBIKE200 on March 20, 2016, 08:05:49 AMThey dont report any problems with walking.