Quote from: simons on February 18, 2019, 05:04:40 PMDiscount? Dude you don't know me. 
I spend monthly in new cars the same amount to get 60cm taller (read: several surgeries). Firstly I'm not the kind of guy to beg for discounts and then I really don't need it. The reason why I'm defending him are two: the first one is that he literally changed my life (in positive) and then for the reasons written above.
I'm sure you signed a contract and what is refundable or not is on the contract. I'm not telling you are wrong and he's right or vice versa. Maybe reading contracts can help people to avoid misunderstanding.
Regarding surgeries I think we should let the doctors decide. During my consultation (that I paid 300 EUR, would you like to see the receipt? 60 EUR of discount ... I admit it) when I asked for tibias he clearly told me "no way, tibias are take too long! tibias are just for people who need it".
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@simons
You're also making it sound like you are some kind of millionare, If thats true why arean't you going to paley or doctor rozbruch?
Diary - Internal femurs Dr.Guichet - January 2018 - Milan (second lengthening)
Quote from: 4cms on February 19, 2019, 08:53:20 AM@simons
You're also making it sound like you are some kind of millionare, If thats true why arean't you going to paley or doctor rozbruch?
Honestly? Because I didn't know them. I went with Dr. Guichet and I'm more athletic than before. I can just say good things about him REGARDING MY CASE. I can say good things about cases that I see every day too.
Quote from: 4cms on February 19, 2019, 08:46:10 AM@simons
After 6 days? With no date for surgery or agreed date of arrival?
I can produce the excuses he made in the emails if you would like.
But i would be more concerned like i said that hes allowing you to do over 10cms on one segment bro.
Dont do this, you will regret it. Atleast do tibs.
You dont wanna end up like unicorn, You really need to rethink this.
I would never end up like unicorn because I follow that the doctor tells me and my bones are 3 times thicker than unicorn.
When you do a deposit for something that you'd like to do - unless differently specified - it's not refundable. It works in this way when you order a car, a surgery, a job to be done, forniture etc etc.
Quote from: simons on February 18, 2019, 10:06:50 PMRemember that the nail is produced upon request so this amount of money is used to cover some pre-op expenses.
If Guichet really claims that his nails are custom made, which they definitely aren't, that would mean this claim is made to circumvent the necessity to get a certification for his nail.
Quote from: hanshi on February 19, 2019, 11:29:54 AMIf Guichet really claims that his nails are custom made, which they definitely aren't, that would mean this claim is made to circumvent the necessity to get a certification for his nail.
Jesus but it's possible to avoid to completely change the meaning of my words?
Done upon request means that you order it, they build or assemble it and then you get it delivery.
Custom made means that it's something "tailor made".
If you order a new car it's "done upon request". They don't create a car tailor made for you.
Quote from: simons on February 19, 2019, 11:12:13 AMI would never end up like unicorn because I follow that the doctor tells me and my bones are 3 times thicker than unicorn.
When you do a deposit for something that you'd like to do - unless differently specified - it's not refundable. It works in this way when you order a car, a surgery, a job to be done, forniture etc etc.
Lets put aside what i think of guichet.
Look you are planning on doing a total of 17.5cm or something like that, There is a real possibility you could end up crippled. For your sake bro atleast do tibias, I take no pleasure in seeing someone losing their ability to walk or to live the rest of their lives in pain.
Quote from: 4cms on February 19, 2019, 11:37:57 AMLets put aside what i think of guichet.
Look you are planning on doing a total of 17.5cm or something like that, There is a real possibility you could end up crippled. For your sake bro atleast do tibias, I take no pleasure in seeing someone losing their ability to walk or to live the rest of their lives in pain.
Before the first LL I had a deficit of 5cm to my femurs. I gained 7.5cm. It means that my femurs were 2.5cm longer than the "perfect ratio". With this surgery my femurs will be 12.5cm longer than the "perfect ratio" and just 3.5cm longer than the maximum "perfect range". Not a big deal.
Dude every day i spit blood (italian way to see "I work hard") to have a safe surgery by increasing my muscles and my flexibility. I take this surgery very seriously. Loosing my ability to walk isn't an option 
Quote from: simons on February 19, 2019, 11:35:47 AMJesus but it's possible to avoid to completely change the meaning of my words?
Done upon request means that you order it, they build or assemble it and then you get it delivery.
Custom made means that it's something "tailor made".
If you order a new car it's "done upon request". They don't create a car tailor made for you.
Who would be so stupid to just make 2 of those nails at a time? The cost would be huge and for what benefit? Who would be stupid enough to believe this?
These nails are produced in bigger batches, not just 2 at a time . You are losing credibility with every new post here.
Quote from: hanshi on February 19, 2019, 11:47:44 AMWho would be so stupid to just make 2 of those nails at a time? The cost would be huge and for what benefit? Who would be stupid enough to believe this?
These nails are produced in bigger batches, not just 2 at a time . You are losing credibility with every new post here.
From what I remember the circumference of the nail isn't standard but it can change based on the bones. But I can be wrong about that even if I'm 99% sure to remember it.
Let me list some points:
1) Having a load of nails in my "storage" means having a huge amount of money "blocked". Companies try to avoid "blocked money" in any possible way.
2) If I have a contract with a company that I use to produce the nails, and the contract says that for each nail I have to pay them - lets say 5k - producing 1 or 100 is always 5k a nail. Obviously we can make a deal for large orders but sometimes it doesn't worth (see point 1) ).
Quote from: simons on February 19, 2019, 11:56:25 AMFrom what I remember the circumference of the nail isn't standard but it can change based on the bones. But I can be wrong about that even if I'm 99% sure to remember it.
Let me list some points:
1) Having a load of nails in my "storage" means having a huge amount of money "blocked". Companies try to avoid "blocked money" in any possible way.
2) If I have a contract with a company that I use to produce the nails, and the contract says that for each nail I have to pay them - lets say 5k - producing 1 or 100 is always 5k a nail. Obviously we can make a deal for large orders but sometimes it doesn't worth (see point 1) ).
These nails are by no means complicated or expensive to manufacture. The material cost for the implant steel is below 100Euro per kg.
The biggest part of manufacturing cost is the tool preparation which obviously becomes less expensive per nail the bigger the quantity produced.
Your claim is utter nonsense. The direct manufacturing cost per nail is nowhere near 5k Euro, maximum a couple of hundred.
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