Doctors or salesmen? Cases of dishonesty in LL

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Quote from: musicmaker on January 08, 2016, 05:02:33 PMAnd the hottest guy in the forum, LOL...

Settle down haha

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LLuser1 is making this forum unpleasant with his weird negative energy. obviously he is a doctor himself and trying to spread negativity for his own benefit.

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Quote from: verlings32 on January 08, 2016, 08:49:11 PMLLuser1 is making this forum unpleasant with his weird negative energy. obviously he is a doctor himself and trying to spread negativity for his own benefit.

I'm not a doctor, but If I were, I would be much more professional than this.

A good surgeon would never forget about heparine shots and would be much more focused than this guy in making his patients feel good instead of advertising himself in the forums and hanging out with patients for making money. I don't like hypocrisy when people say they are your friends and they aren't because they don't care about you and they are there just to take your money.

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Quote from: PatientZero on January 06, 2016, 11:36:12 PMIn the past few weeks, you've brought more awareness to Monegal's practice, both good and bad, but your actions are becoming increasingly detrimental to our community. It'd actually be useful if you could back up your claims: like American guy getting ex-fixed, or musicmaker having loss of functionality.

My biggest issue is that you're spinning a massive amount of FUD (fear, uncertainty and doubt) for all prospective patients for some things that are completely false like the 2 points made above.

I have seen her and her x-rays in real life. Her fractured leg is straight, fully consolidated and has no problems weight bearing. Yes this is a serious complication, but I'd give the doctor credit for being able to solve said complication.

Your beef is with the doctor, we get that, but I don't understand your obsession with musicmaker.

You could alternatively go on a crusade against the biggest salesmens (Betz, Mahboubian) or some of the truly awful Indian or Eastern European doctors. Who do you work for?

I am going against all salesmen, including Betz and Mahboubian and Sarin. I will post more about Betz tomorrow.

I made some mistakes in my posts. Musicmaker's left leg is probably OK but I know she is wheelchair bounded, so... do you call that functionality? Is her other leg damaged? She had her surgery in 2014!!! Not being able to walk after more than one year is a sign of loss of functionality. People told me they don't know if she will recover.

I have asked some patients and the external fixator was not used with the American guy but Dr Monegal told one female patient he had to exfix her. One patient from the forum. It was not a lie then. I just got confused. Implants failed in the case of the American guy and the case of that patient. The problem was solved but had multiple surgeries and new implants provided by Fitbone. My sources confirmed those details.

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Quote from: LLuser1 on January 09, 2016, 12:30:35 AMI am going against all salesmen, including Betz and Mahboubian and Sarin. I will post more about Betz tomorrow.

I made some mistakes in my posts. Musicmaker's left leg is probably OK but I know she is wheelchair bounded, so... do you call that functionality? Is her other leg damaged? She had her surgery in 2014!!! Not being able to walk after more than one year is a sign of loss of functionality. People told me they don't know if she will recover.

I have asked some patients and the external fixator was not used with the American guy but Dr Monegal told one female patient he had to exfix her. One patient from the forum. It was not a lie then. I just got confused. Implants failed in the case of the American guy and the case of that patient. The problem was solved but had multiple surgeries and new implants provided by Fitbone. My sources confirmed those details.

How do you know all this information? Are you a medical supplier to these doctors, in contact with the patients, a former patient? What is your link to all this?

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Quote from: LLuser1 on January 08, 2016, 10:56:51 PMI'm not a doctor, but If I were, I would be much more professional than this.

A good surgeon would never forget about heparine shots and would be much more focused than this guy in making his patients feel good instead of advertising himself in the forums and hanging out with patients for making money. I don't like hypocrisy when people say they are your friends and they aren't because they don't care about you and they are there just to take your money.

can you just leave this forum, we are tired of you.
If you were a true LL user you would be more respectful towards the very few doctors out there helping people like you with your height dyshoria. obviously Musicmaker and bohemia has confirmed he is a good doctor so can you just take your hate elsewhere


"I'm not a doctor, but If I were, I would be much more professional than this. " Like if that would confirm it? you are a doctor no doubt.


-"A good surgeon" bla bla bla. OK so you think Paley is a joke then because he has made mistakes during surgery, because he is a human, not a robot. humans can make mistakes. Paley has looooads of negative 1 star reviews on him, people calling him horrible things. But yet he is supposed to be the best doctor. So your comments are immature.

And am I the only one who thinks that doctors should earn more money than people flipping burgers? I want my doctor to earn a lot of money, because with his occopation he has invested in schools and studies to get where he is today (and helping others) so I have NO problem what so ever with doctors earning money, they well deserved it.

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Musicmaker,

What condition are you currently in? Are you expected to make a good recovery? If you have a diary feel free to post, i'm interested. Wish you the best.

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verlings32, I am not sure you are in the place to call out LLuser1 as I believe he has the right to express his concerns. You are a new member with 6 posts all viscously backing the doctor. Please explain yourself cause the more people that are coming out of the woodwork to defend doctors the more fishy this whole thing is getting.

Quote from: verlings32 on January 09, 2016, 02:30:35 AMI respect that you choose not to tell like many others

Quote from: verlings32 on January 09, 2016, 01:59:56 AM
can you just leave this forum, we are tired of you.
If you were a true LL user you would be more respectful towards the very few doctors out there helping people like you with your height dyshoria. obviously Musicmaker and bohemia has confirmed he is a good doctor so can you just take your hate elsewhere


"I'm not a doctor, but If I were, I would be much more professional than this. " Like if that would confirm it? you are a doctor no doubt.


-"A good surgeon" bla bla bla. OK so you think Paley is a joke then because he has made mistakes during surgery, because he is a human, not a robot. humans can make mistakes. Paley has looooads of negative 1 star reviews on him, people calling him horrible things. But yet he is supposed to be the best doctor. So your comments are immature.

And am I the only one who thinks that doctors should earn more money than people flipping burgers? I want my doctor to earn a lot of money, because with his occopation he has invested in schools and studies to get where he is today (and helping others) so I have NO problem what so ever with doctors earning money, they well deserved it.

Quote from: verlings32 on January 09, 2016, 01:57:36 AMI agree! He is a cancer on this forum. It is something strange about him and therefor he must be a doctor because he is not  conversating like the rest of the users on this forum

he is not a true LL type of person

Quote from: verlings32 on January 08, 2016, 08:49:11 PMLLuser1 is making this forum unpleasant with his weird negative energy. obviously he is a doctor himself and trying to spread negativity for his own benefit.

Quote from: verlings32 on January 08, 2016, 11:32:45 AM

Your energy and vibe is toxic on this forum. You are a bully.

I believe that you are a doctor trying to spread negativity for your own benefit.

Quote from: verlings32 on January 08, 2016, 08:29:42 AMFrom Paley website:

"How much money should I keep in reserve in case of a complication?

Complications, although infrequent, can occur and may require surgery to treat and to prevent a negative outcome. An example is premature consolidation of the bone which requires re-breaking the bone. Another is nerve entrapment which requires nerve decompression surgery. Another is muscle contracture which requires lengthening of muscles, tendons, or fascia. Finally, there can be failure of bone healing after the end of the distraction phase requiring repair of nonunion. The cost to treat most of these complications ranges from $12–$35,000.  "

So it is not a matter if you get a complication or not, because if you do the procedure, you should be prepared that it can occur. It is a matter of how the doctor help you afterwards and follow up.
When choosing a doctor, you do the research of him (or her) and then you decide to invest in the procedure. The doctor is a human being, and allthough doing his best, things can go wrong of course. As a patient, you must want LL so bad that you are willing to take that risk, having your body operated on. If complications should occur, you must not panic, because you know this can happen, however, you should feel safe that your choice of doctor is so trustworthy you know he does his best to correct it and make the situation as good as possible!

Find a good person you trust.

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Quote from: blahblah on January 09, 2016, 03:49:10 AMverlings32, I am not sure you are in the place to call out LLuser1 as I believe he has the right to express his concerns. You are a new member with 6 posts all viscously backing the doctor. Please explain yourself cause the more people that are coming out of the woodwork to defend doctors the more fishy this whole thing is getting.

I mean you said that you were a lurker..what makes you think he isn't one himself?

Secondly, he's at least not the only one expressing his disapproval at LLuser who really is creating a toxic environment with his baseless attacks at what he terms "moneymakers." When in truth, like I said, all doctors who preform any sort of cosmetic procedure are in part in it for the money. Think about, would a doctor really risk his license for a procedure that might end up crippling his patient; which could also result in some form of retaliation financially and judicially. I mean it takes a good degree of reassurance that LL yields good results for any doctor, regardless of experience, to do such a procedure.   

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Alu, thank you for your reply. I agree, but 6 posts all about defending one doctor just seems fishy to me. So are you saying LLuser provoked him from leaving the lurking realm to start responding to any post about a certain DR? Why would anyone defend a Dr that they don't know, and just to have a sole purpose on this forum to defend him? I am not attacking or even insinuating anything here I am just trying to keep an open mind. What if LLuser is right? Now I am not saying he is, but even if there is .001% chance he is right I would like to know and I bet so would many others when it comes to these matters. We do not want another Sarin situation on our hands because we were too ignorant to listen - all I am saying is lets start putting our defenses up until we can prove beyond a reasonable doubt that LLuser is full of sh*t.


PS: LLuser1 you too need to start proving beyond a reasonable doubt that what you are saying is true. You can not just go around accusing someone without evidence. That is just slander. If you do not have any evidence or can not provide any, please refrain from posting. We all know what your stance is on Dr. Monegal. Hearsay is not evidence. Thank you.

Quote from: Alu on January 09, 2016, 04:16:50 AMI mean you said that you were a lurker..what makes you think he isn't one himself?

Secondly, he's at least not the only one expressing his disapproval at LLuser who really is creating a toxic environment with his baseless attacks at what he terms "moneymakers." When in truth, like I said, all doctors who preform any sort of cosmetic procedure are in part in it for the money. Think about, would a doctor really risk his license for a procedure that might end up crippling his patient; which could also result in some form of retaliation financially and judicially. I mean it takes a good degree of reassurance that LL yields good results for any doctor, regardless of experience, to do such a procedure.